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Is this a good time to mention that the Bills’ leading receiver today was a backup for Alabama last year?

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Just now, mannc said:

Is this a good time to mention that the Bills’ leading receiver today was a backup for Alabama last year?

 

Sure, with the caveat that he was bad enough to get sent to the practice squad. After a few months there he is looking competent. A lot of rookie WRs take a few months or a year to develop into starting caliber players. So you're going to take 3 college receivers with no NFL conditioning and start them tomorrow against NFL defenders. They will be obliterated. Along with everyone else playing for Alabama.

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2 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

I'll give you that.  

I think the thing that really needs to be said is that Bama has players that will never play in the NFL playing for them while Buf well they are all in the NFL.  Not the best in collegebut the best in the world. what is that top 2500 I think.

Then how do you explain the fact that the Bills’ leading receiver today was a backup for Alabama 12 months ago?

 

Every starter on Alabama’s team will have a chance to play in the NFL, although of course not all will make it. The point is, the talent level is very high.  

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Sure, with the caveat that he was bad enough to get sent to the practice squad. After a few months there he is looking competent. A lot of rookie WRs take a few months or a year to develop into starting caliber players. So you're going to take 3 college receivers with no NFL conditioning and start them tomorrow against NFL defenders. They will be obliterated. Along with everyone else playing for Alabama.

I would absolutely take Alabama’s receiving corps this year over the Bills’. And if you think Alabama’s D-line would get obliterated by the Bills’ o-line, despite today’s performance, then we’ll just have to disagree.  

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11 minutes ago, mannc said:

Then how do you explain the fact that the Bills’ leading receiver today was a backup for Alabama 12 months ago?

 

Every starter on Alabama’s team will have a chance to play in the NFL, although of course not all will make it. The point is, the talent level is very high.  

I would absolutely take Alabama’s receiving corps this year over the Bills’. And if you think Alabama’s D-line would get obliterated by the Bills’ o-line, despite today’s performance, then we’ll just have to disagree.  

Oh my god. Robert Foster had a better day than Calvin Ridley today. He should have been taken in the first round. #Bamaboys 

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On 11/8/2018 at 2:04 PM, rodneykm said:

The Bills. Even with Peterman at QB.

 

I really hate this argument though. You are comparing the best of the best college players vs a college team with some NFL caliber talent on it. 

 

It would be a bloodbath. Alabama would get destroyed. 

I don’t even understand the premise. They are assuming the Bills 4th string qb is starting? Alrighty. 

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2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

College is NOT the NFL.

 

 

 

 

Any time someone says "zero chance".............they can be safely ignored.

 

 

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Whenever someone’s entire argument is “college is no the NFL”...

 

zero point zero

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1 hour ago, mannc said:

Then how do you explain the fact that the Bills’ leading receiver today was a backup for Alabama 12 months ago?

 

Every starter on Alabama’s team will have a chance to play in the NFL, although of course not all will make it. The point is, the talent level is very high.  

I would absolutely take Alabama’s receiving corps this year over the Bills’. And if you think Alabama’s D-line would get obliterated by the Bills’ o-line, despite today’s performance, then we’ll just have to disagree.  

Yup last year they definitely had a better reciever than anyone we have.  Im talking about 46 players.

But like I said all you can do is speculate.  You tell an NFL player whos played at both levels that and see what they say.

The speed of the game and talent level is much higher.  You have to realize Bama is the best college team but you see them play college teams that arnt what they are.  You see them beat up on lesser talent.  Buffalo just anihilated another team that would destroy Bama. 

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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Sure, with the caveat that he was bad enough to get sent to the practice squad. After a few months there he is looking competent. A lot of rookie WRs take a few months or a year to develop into starting caliber players. So you're going to take 3 college receivers with no NFL conditioning and start them tomorrow against NFL defenders. They will be obliterated. Along with everyone else playing for Alabama.

 

You really think he’s suddenly a different player a month later?

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2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

You really think he’s suddenly a different player a month later?

I supposed it's more likely he's an All-Pro #1 WR that went undrafted because Alabama is just that deep.

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25 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Yup last year they definitely had a better reciever than anyone we have.  Im talking about 46 players.

But like I said all you can do is speculate.  You tell an NFL player whos played at both levels that and see what they say.

The speed of the game and talent level is much higher.  You have to realize Bama is the best college team but you see them play college teams that arnt what they are.  You see them beat up on lesser talent.  Buffalo just anihilated another team that would destroy Bama. 

It’s true, all either of us can do is speculate.  

 

What we pretty much know is that Alabama has four or five starters who will be taken in the first round of the 2019 NFL draft, another 8 or 9 guys who will be drafted later, and 4 or 5 others (like Levi Wallace and Robert Foster) who won’t get drafted but will get a shot as a UFA.  (The Tide had 12 players drafted last year, and this year’s team is even better.)

 

So that’s about 14 to 17 players on this year’s team who will probably be on an NFL roster next year. And that’s just the guys who declare for the 2019 draft; It doesn’t even include the sophomores or juniors on the team who are going to return to school.  So the notion that a team like Alabama has a lot of guys starting who won’t ever get a sniff of the NFL is complete nonsense.  There is no massive talent disparity between the Bills and the Tide.

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25 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

I supposed it's more likely he's an All-Pro #1 WR that went undrafted because Alabama is just that deep.

The reality is he’s pretty much the same guy. He’s a guy that they probably should have used to stretch the field all year. He was a 5 star recruit so he wasn’t some unknown. Foster is the same guy that he’s been for years. He’s a big play threat that struggles to track the ball. The month on the PS didn’t change him. The opportunity changed him.

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23 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

 

 

Again, I didn’t make this spread!! This is a professional oddsmaker. 

 

I know the 28.5 point spread came from a professional bookmaker, but since this hypothetical game will never be played, the bookmaker doesn't have anything to lose if he badly miscalculates.  

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1 hour ago, mannc said:

It’s true, all either of us can do is speculate.  

 

What we pretty much know is that Alabama has four or five starters who will be taken in the first round of the 2019 NFL draft, another 8 or 9 guys who will be drafted later, and 4 or 5 others (like Levi Wallace and Robert Foster) who won’t get drafted but will get a shot as a UFA.  (The Tide had 12 players drafted last year, and this year’s team is even better.)

 

So that’s about 14 to 17 players on this year’s team who will probably be on an NFL roster next year. And that’s just the guys who declare for the 2019 draft; It doesn’t even include the sophomores or juniors on the team who are going to return to school.  So the notion that a team like Alabama has a lot of guys starting who won’t ever get a sniff of the NFL is complete nonsense.  There is no massive talent disparity between the Bills and the Tide.

lol experience at the NFL level + talent.

Now the #1 Defense in the NFL against a college team.  How many hall of fame worthy platers are on Alabama.

I guess Crack is still the drug of choice in western New York.

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1 hour ago, mannc said:

It’s true, all either of us can do is speculate.  

 

What we pretty much know is that Alabama has four or five starters who will be taken in the first round of the 2019 NFL draft, another 8 or 9 guys who will be drafted later, and 4 or 5 others (like Levi Wallace and Robert Foster) who won’t get drafted but will get a shot as a UFA.  (The Tide had 12 players drafted last year, and this year’s team is even better.)

 

So that’s about 14 to 17 players on this year’s team who will probably be on an NFL roster next year. And that’s just the guys who declare for the 2019 draft; It doesn’t even include the sophomores or juniors on the team who are going to return to school.  So the notion that a team like Alabama has a lot of guys starting who won’t ever get a sniff of the NFL is complete nonsense.  There is no massive talent disparity between the Bills and the Tide.

 

Just because guys get drafted doesnt mean they are ready to play in the NFL right away. Takes more than just talent to be successful in the NFL. Alabama plays against teams that only have a couple guys that will make it to the NFL. Sometimes they play teams where no players will make the NFL. That all changes playing an NFL team. Just the schemes alone would confuse Alabama to the point they couldnt do much. Any NFL team would beat Bama by 40.  

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2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Whenever someone’s entire argument is “college is no the NFL”...

 

zero point zero

 

 

Whenever anyone is too lazy to check their response's spelling

 

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NO college team can beat a Pro team............................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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45 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said:

 Alabama plays against teams that only have a couple guys that will make it to the NFL. Sometimes they play teams where no players will make the NFL. 

This is completely untrue.  Teams like LSU, Georgia, Auburn and the rest of the SEC teams on Bama’s schedule are packed with future NFL players.

 

Oh, and nowadays, guys who get drafted do in fact play in the NFL right away.  Very few drafted players get released as rookies.

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Well, here are the lines for other NFL teams vs. Alabama:

 

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/alabama-spread-against-every-nfl-team-hypothetical-odds

 

Also, the Bills started and played 2 UDFA rookies from Alabama that had an impact in the game. Neither guy was a star at Bama either. That should give a sense for the level of talent that they are pumping out.

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