Someone should be fired. Simple

[jrober38]

Just now, longtimebillsfan said:

Yes it was.  It was needed to open up opportunities to obtain better players next year.  The Bills will have one of the best financial situations going into the off season.   This depressing season is one we just have work through.  It is hard to fairly evaluate coaching performances on the offensive side of the ball with such a lack of talent. 

 

A few things:

 

1. There are a lot of teams with massive amounts of cap space.

 

2. The free agent class at WR and OL is terrible. 

[slaphappy]

4 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Sure. But Beane is so good at tanking it's hard to see where his other talent lies

One of them warned us is was going to get worse before it got better after last year. I think it was Sean,. My biggest problem is, I can't think of 1 guy on the offense that would be missed. Other than ( huge maybe ) Allen.. there isn't a single player to build on on that side of the ball. 

[Roundybout]

Just now, That's No Moon said:

No kidding. Hence frustration and anger. This team has been going the wrong direction for about 12 months now. Go ahead, give them 12 more.

 

Oh tahts right, youre one of those that was against McD from the start and was strangely absent when the drought broke. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Next person to start a “someone should be fired thread” should be banned til end of season.  There’s like 5000 of them, pick one and b*tch there.

 

I agree with this.

 

 

[That's No Moon]

Just now, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

What draft picks has he outright missed on? Go on. 

Josh Allen is terrible. Tremaine Edmunds makes tackles 5 yards down field and is already 1 concussion into an nfl career at age 20. He will be out of the league before his rookie contract ends. Are we giving him a pass on Zay Jones?

[jrober38]

2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

He had no room to bring in big names. He will next season. 

 

Like who?

 

Have you actually looked at what free agents will be available?

 

Have you considered that there are 10 teams with $60+ mil in cap space?

 

Why would anyone want to come join this offense?

Edited November 4, 2018 by jrober38

[The Now Moment]

Well when you wake up and realized it was a major development year right off of the bat, it's really not that bad.  We were competitive with our starting QB and we suck with a backup that throws an outrageous number of interceptions.  The defense quits after the offense can't score a point.  The dominos fell.  I want to see what they look like when Allen gets back.  Does he re-light the fire under this team.  He wasn't great but he gave the team excitement and had the defense pumped.

[Bing Bong]

Just now, billsfan1959 said:

Well, recognizing and admitting that you have a childlike self-centeredness where everything is about you is the first step toward getting help

Lol the analogy is wanting a new GM because he is bad. Not about a toy or being 2 years old. You already established that.

 

I think the GM sucks. Anology: I need a better toy (GM!!!!!!!!)

4 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

I agree with this.

 

The sentiment changes the closer we get to worst historical team ever.

[Mojo44]

45 minutes ago, DKBills25 said:

This team is bad , and shouldnone should be let go for this , basically not scoring a touchdown in 3 games is somthing that needs to be fixed ASAP 

How do you get a playoff team to this .. very sad very typical of this front office 

change before you start to lose support 

 Sorry, but this is a silly knee-jerk reaction. It’s been 1 1/2 seasons for chrissakes! And, only 1/2 season since we made the playoffs!A lot of you need to learn how to hold your wads! 

 

In 1969 they were 2-12-1 and in 1971 1-13.   I was there and it sucked!  The team has been worse. We do have a promising quarterback to develop.  Some of the foolish notions that he is already a bust not withstanding.  Take a deep breath and let it play out into next season! Things do change that quickly in the NFL. Any fan would know that.

[Bing Bong]

11 minutes ago, vorpma said:

Are you drunk?

Opportunity cost is wasting years with a bad GM rather than finding a new GM we could have for a long tenure.

[billsfan1959]

4 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Lol the analogy is wanting a new GM because he is bad. Not about a toy or being 2 years old. You already established that.

 

I think the GM sucks. Anology: I need a better toy (GM!!!!!!!!)

The sentiment changes the closer we get to worst historical team ever.

Not even close. If you truly believe that, you clearly have not followed the NFL closely or for very long.

[Roundybout]

6 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Like who?

 

Have you actually looked at what free agents will be available?

 

Have you considered that there are 10 teams with $60+ mil in cap space?

 

Why would anyone want to come join this offense?

 

Money talks. Guys like Tavon Austin, Randall Cobb, Dontae Moncrief all are solid recievers that can be had. If we can get Pryor to come here, why not any of these guys?

[Bing Bong]

7 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Like who?

 

Have you actually looked at what free agents will be available?

 

Have you considered that there are 10 teams with $60+ mil in cap space?

 

Why would anyone want to come join this offense?

I like this point. There's literally maybe 3 Marquee free agents that really turn your team around and they have half the NFL going for them. And we're not the only team getting cap space

[jrober38]

Just now, billsfan1959 said:

Not even close. If you truly believe that, you clearly have not followed the NFL closely or for very long.

 

I agree. The team isn't the worst, but our offense is easily the worst in the past 20 years when you consider how easy it is to score in the NFL right now due to recent rule changes. 

 

10.6 PPG is unfathomable in today's NFL. 

[John in Jax]

Start at the top.....Fire the President of the Bills....oh, wait    ?

[vorpma]

13 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said:

 

The standard is 3 years not 5. There is not enough time nor resources to fix what has been done. 

 

The F.O. has already committed their firing offenses, they just won’t be fired until next year, which is stupid when it can be done as a proactive measure right after this season.

 

Are you looking into your crystal ball little guy?

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Money talks. Guys like Tavon Austin, Randall Cobb, Dontae Moncrief all are solid recievers that can be had. If we can get Pryor to come here, why not any of these guys?

This is exactly the approach that got us in our current cap situation. 

 

Also none of those guys are good players. Austin is terrible, Cobb hasn't done anything for 3 years and Moncrief is a career underachiever. 

 

You're right in saying those guys are probably our best options, but reality is none of them will actually make this team any better. 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

This week so excited for Walking Dead more then Bill's this week. One of my favorite tv shows.

[vorpma]

4 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Opportunity cost is wasting years with a bad GM rather than finding a new GM we could have for a long tenure.

Fire Every one and when I don't get my way fire every one again!

[Bing Bong]

1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said:

Not even close. If you truly believe that, you clearly have not followed the NFL closely or for very long.

Statistically we are. I'm annoyed with this conversation, you want to keep everybody. You're entitled to that point.

 

You can make an analogy but are too lazy to interpret a counter.

 

I think we should do something because teams rarely play this bad consistently on Sundays, and someone's recponsible. That's the thread. We understand each other now? Seriously can't argue with you. We have different opinions. Leave it at that.

[jrober38]

3 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

I like this point. There's literally maybe 3 Marquee free agents that really turn your team around and they have half the NFL going for them. And we're not the only team getting cap space

 

People act like we're the only team with cap space.

 

That couldn't be farther from the truth. 

 

There are tons of teams with cap space, and all of them offer better opportunities on offense than we do. 

 

Signing free agents this summer on offense is going to be a very hard sell unless we grossly overpay (which is exactly how we got into our current cap problems). 

[longtimebillsfan]

16 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

A few things:

 

1. There are a lot of teams with massive amounts of cap space.

 

2. The free agent class at WR and OL is terrible. 

Ok. So I guess we are doomed.   

[Roundybout]

3 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

This is exactly the approach that got us in our current cap situation. 

 

Also none of those guys are good players. Austin is terrible, Cobb hasn't done anything for 3 years and Moncrief is a career underachiever. 

 

You're right in saying those guys are probably our best options, but reality is none of them will actually make this team any better. 

 

Was Micah Hyde a "good" player before Buffalo? Poyer? Hell, Jordan Phillips? I looked for guys we can get for relatively cheap that fit this mantra. 

[jrober38]

Just now, longtimebillsfan said:

Ok. So I guess we are doomed.   

If the Bills want to get better they need to nail the draft. 

 

I don't trust McDermott to make the picks we need. 

[Bing Bong]

1 minute ago, vorpma said:

Fire Every one and when I don't get my way fire every one again!

Keep a failure for hope it will get good! Keep him forever! 

 

We just have different opinions dude. I don't think things are going swell, you like the future. I'm not going to be lumped in as an idiot child and not lump you in as an idiot dude hoping he'll crush at blackjack his entire life when he's horrible at playing.

[jrober38]

2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Was Micah Hyde a "good" player before Buffalo? Poyer? Hell, Jordan Phillips? I looked for guys we can get for relatively cheap that fit this mantra. 

 

I'm talking about the offense.

 

McDermott can coach D, but you need to score a lot of points to be successful in today's NFL. 

 

Our offenses have been a dumpster fire on his watch. 

[vorpma]

1 minute ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Keep a failure for hope it will get good! Keep him forever! 

 

We just have different opinions dude. I don't think things are going swell, you like the future. I'm not going to be lumped in as an idiot child and not lump you in as an idiot dude hoping he'll crush at blackjack his entire life when he's horrible at playing.

Are you drunk?

[Roundybout]

Just now, jrober38 said:

 

I'm talking about the offense.

 

McDermott can coach D, but you need to score a lot of points to be successful in today's NFL. 

 

Our offenses have been a dumpster fire on his watch. 

 

Right, and I argue that he hasn't really tried to do more than bandaid the offense. Let's see what he can do with his cash to burn. 

[billsfan1959]

5 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Statistically we are. I'm annoyed with this conversation, you want to keep everybody. You're entitled to that point.

 

You can make an analogy but are too lazy to interpret a counter.

  

I think we should do something because teams rarely play this bad consistently on Sundays, and someone's recponsible. That's the thread. We understand each other now? Seriously can't argue with you. We have different opinions. Leave it at that.

Is there anything you are not annoyed at or angry at? Seriously, it is a game. If it upsets you this much, maybe you should take a break from it for a while.

[Ol Dirty B]

1 hour ago, billspro said:

 

Worst team I have seen since being a fan in 2004

 

2004 that's rough, and I thought I had it bad when I can say I was a fan starting in 95.

[vorpma]

1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

 

I'm talking about the offense.

 

McDermott can coach D, but you need to score a lot of points to be successful in today's NFL. 

 

Our offenses have been a dumpster fire on his watch. 

Give them a fricking chance! Millennials!!

15 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Opportunity cost is wasting years with a bad GM rather than finding a new GM we could have for a long tenure.

OK, who? You are the decision maker, who?

[Bing Bong]

Just now, vorpma said:

Are you drunk?

No you don't understand anaolgies lmao.

 

We have differences of opinion, leave it at that and stop making analogies that can't be countered without you understanding

1 minute ago, vorpma said:

Give them a fricking chance! Millennials!!

OK, who? You are the decision maker, who?

Not the decision maker, the guy with an opinion that the next decison maker makes a better decision.

3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

Is there anything you are not annoyed at or angry at? Seriously, it is a game. If it upsets you this much, maybe you should take a break from it for a while.

You're annoying me. And i'm telling you I want to take a break from it.

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

No you don't understand anaolgies lmao.

 

We have differences of opinion, leave it at that and stop making analogies that can't be countered without you understanding

Not the decision maker, the guy with an opinion that the next decison maker makes a better decision.

Pisses me off so much when board members demand we make the decisions for this football team.

 

If someone payed me millions of dollars to spend more time to try and fix this offence and team, I would be more than happy to comply.

 

Until then, we are fans and we have good reason to demand better from management

[vorpma]

3 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

No you don't understand anaolgies lmao.

 

We have differences of opinion, leave it at that and stop making analogies that can't be countered without you understanding

Not the decision maker, the guy with an opinion that the next decison maker makes a better decision.

You're annoying me. And i'm telling you I want to take a break from it.

Go cry in your room and the get over it! Come back when you are older!

[Iverwig]

19 minutes ago, Mojo44 said:

 Sorry, but this is a silly knee-jerk reaction. It’s been 1 1/2 seasons for chrissakes! And, only 1/2 season since we made the playoffs!A lot of you need to learn how to hold your wads! 

 

In 1969 they were 2-12-1 and in 1971 1-13.   I was there and it sucked!  The team has been worse. We do have a promising quarterback to develop.  Some of the foolish notions that he is already a bust not withstanding.  Take a deep breath and let it play out into next season! Things do change that quickly in the NFL. Any fan would know that.

 

I get what you are saying but I have zero confidence in this staff to develop a QB. They drafted a QB that needed to sit his first season and he ends up playing in the first game because the QB everyone in the NFL wonders why is in the league stinks it up in another game he starts. 

[dgrochester55]

This staff is not going to get fired because they made the playoffs last year and their franchise quarterback is out.

 

There does need to be some accountability on the offensive side and the offseason game planning though.  

 

Daboll needs to go.   This new offense in today's NFL is like driving a model T in an eight lane highway in a major city.   Even if it is in peak condition with all of the right parts in place, it is not going to keep up and end up being a liability if you want to go anywhere.

 

[billspro]

6 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

2004 that's rough, and I thought I had it bad when I can say I was a fan starting in 95.

 

Well I watched Flutie then didn’t watch NFL again until they picked up Bledsoe. I have been a die hard fan ever since. Even the year we started 0-8 the team was competitive and had entertaining games. This year is just unwatchable. The game is usually over sometime in the first quarter. 

[billsfan1959]

3 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

You're annoying me. And i'm telling you I want to take a break from it.

I know you get a little emotional when you don't get your way and I don't want to send you over the edge. So, of course we can take a break from our debate.

[ColoradoBills]

30 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

Josh Allen is terrible. Tremaine Edmunds makes tackles 5 yards down field and is already 1 concussion into an nfl career at age 20. He will be out of the league before his rookie contract ends. Are we giving him a pass on Zay Jones?

 

That is quite a statement.

[RochesterRob]

Before the season started everybody was in for the tank and a top 5 pick and now they have buyer's remorse?  No sense in fixing anything at this point.  Get the top 5 pick.  Breathe in.  Hold. Breathe out.  Repeat.  The Bills were not going any place realistically this year and now we are seeing a few teams in the AFC start to pull away.  Just get through the remaining two months and hopefully we are picking in the top 3.  Not a fan of picking QB with the top pick in two consecutive years but there maybe a conundrum seeing the Ohio State QB and a couple of others.