PolishPrince Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, blacklabel said: Hughes is still performing at a high level, and they like the intensity he brings. They're also big on how he practices and like having him around to set an example for those inexperienced players on how to be a pro and how to maintain your health so you can play into your 30's. Not sure where you thought i was knocking Hughes or saying to let him go... I am saying besides him our only pass rush is Kyle Williams and Lorax.. both are 35. Maybe I am crazy, but we need some not 35+ year old pass rushers for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The truth is the Buffalo Bills have been mismanaged on offense to the point that they do not even resemble a team that should be playing in the NFL. Both at the QB position in particular, and in general. I'm sure McDermott bears a fair amount of that responsibility along with the GM and ownership. He isn't going to come out and say "Hey look, we ***** up in a big way this past off season. It's going to take 2 or 3 more years to recover." He says the nonsense that he has been saying all along. Even when asked about players hurt during the game, he just says he doesn't know because he went right to the presser. His post game presser is nothing but a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Gigs said: Should’ve built on that team he lead to the playoffs instead of deciding it wasn’t his team, like some egotistical prick. I actually think it was the right thing to do to continue with the rebuild. I thought that team was mediocre at best and didn't have a high ceiling, and it was a little flukey that they made the playoffs. What I don't like is the way the rebuild is going so far. Not by record, but talent-wise we should be further along after 2 offseasons than we are. We basically have an entire offense to build still after 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrly Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I wanted coach Clappy McDumbass gone the moment he clapped when we fumbled a ball, missed a FG, threw an INT etc. their play calling is boring and ineffective. He had his time in my mind and should have been let go this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: They showed something about the Buffalo Bills on ESPN? Most of the stuff I saw was on the greatness of Marcia Lady and the Cheats aside from the weird ass CG of the QBs, Randy Moss career highlights, Rand Moss at Niagara Falls and Young eating Applebees wings with Ranch... I was listening to the Chiefs - Broncos game on the radio, the announcers were talking about who would have Home Field throughout the playoffs this season, KC or NE. The folks here on OBD are talking about who we draft next season. This is not quite 1/2 way through the season. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I actually think it was the right thing to do to continue with the rebuild. I thought that team was mediocre at best and didn't have a high ceiling, and it was a little flukey that they made the playoffs. What I don't like is the way the rebuild is going so far. Not by record, but talent-wise we should be further along after 2 offseasons than we are. We basically have an entire offense to build still after 2 years. I don't mind a rebuild. What I mind is it taking two full seasons to rip out the foundation before the rebuild can actually begin. This is some ridiculous 4 year plan and in the modern NFL it isn't necessary. Teams can be rebuilt in 2 years and in some cases, the very next year. There was no need to jettison players the way they have been. You don't have to take two years to "clear the cap" you can do it bit by bit every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, PolishPrince said: Not sure where you thought i was knocking Hughes or saying to let him go... I am saying besides him our only pass rush is Kyle Williams and Lorax.. both are 35. Maybe I am crazy, but we need some not 35+ year old pass rushers for the future Gotcha. We'd all like to see more from Lawson and it'd be nice if Murphy could consistently stay healthy. Not saying the dude is All-Pro but he is pretty consistent in getting pressures. This next draft is loaded with DL talent so if they think they need to add some pass rushers, they should be able to find a good one. On the flip-side, it's not a great draft for offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, MDH said: I don't mind a rebuild. What I mind is it taking two full seasons to rip out the foundation before the rebuild can actually begin. This is some ridiculous 4 year plan and in the modern NFL it isn't necessary. Teams can be rebuilt in 2 years and in some cases, the very next year. There was no need to jettison players the way they have been. You don't have to take two years to "clear the cap" you can do it bit by bit every year. Yup, I agree with the 4 year plan thing, and I think even that is a longshot at this point. It shouldn't take that long if you have the right people in place. We're also basically wasting an entire season's worth of games on the offensive end because outside of possibly Allen and Dawkins...I'm not sure we literally have another starter quality player that's being developed. I said from the beginning that I didn't care about the record for the first couple of years, I just wanted to see some legit young talent being developed. Instead, we're both losing and we're bereft of talent. Bad combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Zaso Art Designs said: Another thing that he keeps saying is that we have a young football team. But the team isn't that young. There are older players, true, but there was a graphic yesterday during the game that said 40% of our roster is comprised of 1st or 2nd year players. That is a young, inexperienced team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, MDH said: I don't mind a rebuild. What I mind is it taking two full seasons to rip out the foundation before the rebuild can actually begin. This is some ridiculous 4 year plan and in the modern NFL it isn't necessary. Teams can be rebuilt in 2 years and in some cases, the very next year. There was no need to jettison players the way they have been. You don't have to take two years to "clear the cap" you can do it bit by bit every year. Or you rip the band aid off quickly and get it over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I am simply saying that if this is causing you that much pain there is probably another team out there that would make this more enjoyable for you..... If fandom is being out there criticising ever little move and not seeing the big picture of the team......that sounds like a poor choice of your time Too bad that in America John From Riverside doesn't get to dictate to people the definition of being a fan. He doesn't get to legislate who is a fan and who isn't according to how he wants to be a fan. You're happy with this, keep clapping. For others, pointing out observable/specific things that bother them with this team is part of a realistic discussion about the nature of the team. The absolute fans will always point to - they need more time. They said it with Jauron, they said it with Gailey and so on. The answer is always give them more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: Yup, I agree with the 4 year plan thing, and I think even that is a longshot at this point. It shouldn't take that long if you have the right people in place. We're also basically wasting an entire season's worth of games on the offensive end because outside of possibly Allen and Dawkins...I'm not sure we literally have another starter quality player that's being developed. I said from the beginning that I didn't care about the record for the first couple of years, I just wanted to see some legit young talent being developed. Instead, we're both losing and we're bereft of talent. Bad combo. Come on. Jones looked good last night. He's coming on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Too bad that in America John From Riverside doesn't get to dictate to people the definition of being a fan. He doesn't get to legislate who is a fan and who isn't according to how he wants to be a fan. You're happy with this, keep clapping. For others, pointing out observable/specific things that bother them with this team is part of a realistic discussion about the nature of the team. The absolute fans will always point to - they need more time. They said it with Jauron, they said it with Gailey and so on. The answer is always give them more time. Look at you, Captain America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think the bills are doing exactly what the colts did when they wanted to go after Andrew Luck in the draft......but this time they will not be going after a QB they are just trying to get into top 5 so that they can either a. Draft a cant miss blue chip prospect b. Trade down and accumulate even more picks to address offensive needs in the high rounds I mean....this is all my opinion if they were serious about winning this year moves would have been made already.......despite all the flak he is taking McD is not a stupid guy....did he all of a sudden become stupid? No Who was the can't miss blue chip prospect? I hope you're not talking about Allen. He was far from "can't miss" Just now, joesixpack said: Look at you, Captain America. Yeah joe, keep laughing it up. This is so funny. 2-6 and scoring 10 ppg now in 2018. Haha and hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: Yeah joe, keep laughing it up. This is so funny. 2-6 and scoring 10 ppg now in 2018. Haha and hehe. You seem sad. A suggestion from a fan of the team for the past almost four decades: if they make you this upset, maybe it's time to find a new hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Who was the can't miss blue chip prospect? I hope you're not talking about Allen. He was far from "can't miss" Yeah joe, keep laughing it up. This is so funny. 2-6 and scoring 10 ppg now in 2018. Haha and hehe. Jesus....why am I even talk to you? Stay away from the sharp objects sir....I am talking about blue chip in the NEXT DRAFT THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT Carry on...im done with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Heitz said: What does this mean - how do you hold a "franchise" accountable? In the past few years we had new owners, new coaches, new GM, a mostly new roster - who else are they going to hold accountable? I suppose if fans really want to "make them accountable" they could stop going to games, but call me when that happens, I'll be able to get tickets on the cheap! Well our Coach did say that he regrets the result of the decision to start Peterman over Tyrod, so you're right, at this point nothing will change our owners mind. They've gone silent, Beane hasn't been in front of mic in forever speaking about the state of the team. They wanted a more polished front man and they got wanted they wanted. Someone who will read from the cue cards. 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Jesus....why am I even talk to you? Stay away from the sharp objects sir....I am talking about blue chip in the NEXT DRAFT THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT Carry on...im done with you The same GM that tells you after they trade Watkins, Dareus, Darby that they are trying to win now and compete in the future, has now secretly masterminded a 2018 tank job to get a high pick in 2019? 4 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You seem sad. A suggestion from a fan of the team for the past almost four decades: if they make you this upset, maybe it's time to find a new hobby. Nope. This is an attempt to shame me. Not going to work. I'm bringing up relevant facts. You seem to always defend the Bills, no matter the results. At 2-6, 10 ppg offensively, a 35-year old QB out of retirement, and a Coach who is a CD player set to repeat, I think the fans deserve better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I'm bringing up relevant facts. You're being an overemotional child. Evidence: you're supporting firing a coach and GM less than two years into their tenure. That's not the reaction of a grounded adult. It's the reaction of a kid in a grocery line who doesn't get a candy bar. I defend this regime because it's EVIDENTLY CLEAR that they do have a plan, even if YOU and the likes of you don't like it. Edited October 30, 2018 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: You're being an overemotional child. Evidence: you're supporting firing a coach and GM less than two years into their tenure. That's not the reaction of a grounded adult. It's the reaction of a kid in a grocery line who doesn't get a candy bar. WRONG. IN THIS THREAD I'VE REPEATEDLY SAID: "They got to the Playoffs in 2017, so they get 2018 and 2019." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 He's not out of answers, he's just tired of explaining what should be obvious to people who follow the team closely, ie this is year 2 of a 4 year plan and it was always going to be a little rough trying to accumulate cap space and work in both a rookie QB and MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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