billsfan_34 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 No bandaid- lets try and grab A. Cooper and draft a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: Correct. You are not getting a player who would be more integral for Allen's development in the fifth or sixth round. The goal is not "Trade for DT so he can be the #1 WR when Allen wins MVP in 2 years." The goal is "Trade for DT so Allen has somebody to throw to while trying to learn how to play QB." This could not be more perfectly stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: It didn't sound like it! You forgot to mention that he is really fast and can hurdle guys, while running like a toddler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 DeVante Parker would be a good play. He would probably be cheap to acquire and has good upside. Besides this season he's proven to be a solid #2/3 with pretty much no one good throwing him the ball. This is a decent risk to take assuming the cost to acquire him is low. Demaryius Thomas isn't a guy i'd be going after. He's old and has big money tied to him. He'd be solid but i don't see a fit. Cooper is a legit target. I'd be all over this one if the cost is right. I have a feeling he'll be dealt to a team like the Cowboys though. With us being out of the playoffs i just don't see a need to move picks unless we're getting a long term piece back. If anything i'd be looking to move McCoy and Benjamin for picks. I don't see either player back next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 45 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: The fatal flaw in your logic is the group making the pick. In a vacuum sure those late picks could be valuable, but I have 0 faith the front office can identify talent on the offensive side of the ball. Let alone a late round pick vs an established player with experience. Okay, trade picks for receivers 30+ who will be retired in two years, good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: Haha, I'd bet 6 million dollars you're white. ?? what is your point? There are literally about only 3 or 4 starting white receivers in NFL on any given year(and about 50% of them are on Patriots) so him saying Bills should draft WR implies you draft an African-American about 99+ % of the time. Edited October 22, 2018 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 29 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Okay, trade picks for receivers 30+ who will be retired in two years, good idea. First off, I def dont think we should trade for DT. Just pointing out how your logic was flawed, also if im paying a 5th rounder and 10 mil for a good WR who can help Allen develop sign me up because thats way more important right now than a maybe fringe starter who could turn out to be another Nate the great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: Correct. You are not getting a player who would be more integral for Allen's development in the fifth or sixth round. The goal is not "Trade for DT so he can be the #1 WR when Allen wins MVP in 2 years." The goal is "Trade for DT so Allen has somebody to throw to while trying to learn how to play QB." Trade for him and Cooper if you can. DT for now, Cooper for later. Not sure what we'd have to give up for both, but a 5 for DT is fine in my book given your reason stated there. It's a no brainer really, though it does handicap our free cap situation a bit trading for both when we need other positions as well. Edited October 22, 2018 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillsMafia13 said: First off, I def dont think we should trade for DT. Just pointing out how your logic was flawed, also if im paying a 5th rounder and 10 mil for a good WR who can help Allen develop sign me up because thats way more important right now than a maybe fringe starter who could turn out to be another Nate the great. My logic that trading picks for older players past their prime when you are bad, young team is not flawed because you have no faith in the Bills current hierarchy. One has nothing to do with the other, sorry if that is hard for you to comprehend. I will point out though that the current regime, which I am very much in question of, drafted Milano in the 5th and Taron Johnson in the 4th in consecutive drafts. Now that is all I have to say about this. I have spent too much time arguing with dimwits over this matter. Go educate yourself. Edited October 22, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: My logic that trading picks for older players past their prime when you are bad, young team is not flawed because you have no faith in the Bills current hierarchy. One has nothing to do with the other, sorry if that is hard for you to comprehend. I will point out though that the current regime, which I am very much in question of, drafted Milano in the 5th and Taron Johnson in the 4th in consecutive drafts. Now that is all I have to say about this. I have spent too much time arguing with dimwits over this matter. Go educate yourself. Milano and Taron Johnson will not win us a Super Bowl if Allen sucks forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: Milano and Taron Johnson will not win us a Super Bowl if Allen sucks forever. You saw me mention dimwits and you felt the need to chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Ha! I do blow my own horn sometimes - sry. But more importantly, while Parker is cheaper, I doubt the Fins will ever trade him to us. Thomas, on the other hand ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: You saw me mention dimwits and you felt the need to chime in. noticed that huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Why trade for Thomas he probably gets cut in the off season. Bills need youth, this season is a wash 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) Thomas isn’t fast anymore, is injured often and drops a lot of passes. Manning in his swan song made him and Julius Thomas, neither has been close to the same player since. If they want to sign him as a FA to reasonable deal, sure. But don’t think it makes since to trade for Denver’s version of KB. Edited October 24, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Thomas isn’t fast anymore, is injured often and drops a lot of passes. Manning in his sean song made him and Julius Thomas, either has been nearly the same player since. If they want to sign him as a FA to reasonable deal, sure. But don’t think it makes since to trade for Denver’s version of KB. Is it just me, or does Thomas have a clause in his contract that requires to drop at least one pass every game?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, dave mcbride said: Is it just me, or does Thomas have a clause in his contract that requires to drop at least one pass every game?? Hahaha I think you’re correct, at least the tape suggests you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I would not trade for DT. Go hard at Quincy Enunwa and the Boyd kid in Cincinnati or maybe Sanu - assuming they are on the market. Then use a high pick for a prospective # 1 and our problems are solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) All Demaryious Thomas interest has suddenly died off. The other teams are scared the Broncos will stick Chad Kelly in Thomas's suitcase. Edited October 24, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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