The people marching to the boarder ???

[Foxx]

35 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Immigration is a red meat issue like abortion, gay marriage, trans bathrooms, guns. It affects few people but gets people's panties in a bunch. Tackling things like social security, bank regulation, military overspending, executive authority...I'm falling asleep already...wake me up when I get to something important...oh I got one: Stormy Daniels! Now I'm woke.

 

I am not against securing the border. But I am for less restrictive LEGAL immigration policy as well. We *need* immigrants. 

how bout we clean the welfare rolls then we can talk about needing immigrants. 

[DC Tom]

40 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

I am not against securing the border. But I am for less restrictive LEGAL immigration policy as well. We *need* immigrants. 

 

Of course.  Where else are we going to get cheap labor we can exploit?

 

"We *need* Morlocks." - Eloi

[boyst]

1 hour ago, LABillzFan said:

You see. Billy Idol gets it. I don't know why no one else gets it.

 

 

Saw him last spring.  Great show still.

44 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Immigration is a red meat issue like abortion, gay marriage, trans bathrooms, guns. It affects few people but gets people's panties in a bunch. Tackling things like social security, bank regulation, military overspending, executive authority...I'm falling asleep already...wake me up when I get to something important...oh I got one: Stormy Daniels! Now I'm woke.

 

I am not against securing the border. But I am for less restrictive LEGAL immigration policy as well. We *need* immigrants. 

What retard puts tranny bathed usage in the same argument as guns?

 

 

Wait.  Nevermind.  See above.

 

A ***** fundamental right with no restrictions to wield my penis anywhere I want is equal to a semi automatic weapon

 

 

This is my riffle this is my gun.

 

[Misterbluesky]

12 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Of course.  Where else are we going to get cheap labor we can exploit?

 

 

You visit your local reservation and talk ***** like that. 

[DC Tom]

1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said:

You visit your local reservation and talk ***** like that. 

 

No, I only talk ***** like that to the liberals that want illegal immigrants "because they do the jobs we won't do!"

 

That's labor exploitation at best.  Not infrequently, it falls to the level of human trafficking and slavery.

 

If Democrats actually believed the ***** they claim, they'd be dead set against illegal immigration.

[Misterbluesky]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

No, I only talk ***** like that to the liberals that want illegal immigrants "because they do the jobs we won't do!"

 

That's labor exploitation at best.  Not infrequently, it falls to the level of human trafficking and slavery.

 

If Democrats actually believed the ***** they claim, they'd be dead set against illegal immigration.

Slavery still lives on the reservations...and white people have kept it that way because of their hunger for money.You people didn't come on the sacred land to mix in...you came to slaughter,eliminate and change every ***** thing the natives believed in and still do.On the flip side,I would take a bullet for our president,he needs to protect the land.....why,for the obvious reasons (terrorism),poverty,drugs,disease etc.......

 

The natives did what.....hit up Peyote?????

And now the white man likes his Peyote.

 

Double ***** Standards

 

 

[DC Tom]

32 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Slavery still lives on the reservations...and white people have kept it that way because of their hunger for money.You people didn't come on the sacred land to mix in...you came to slaughter,eliminate and change every ***** thing the natives believed in and still do.On the flip side,I would take a bullet for our president,he needs to protect the land.....why,for the obvious reasons (terrorism),poverty,drugs,disease etc.......

 

The natives did what.....hit up Peyote?????

And now the white man likes his Peyote.

 

Double ***** Standards

 

 

 

Especially after I earn enough liberty bells to add Juan de Sepulveda to my Continental Congress.

 

(If anyone gets that reference...God help you.)

[IDBillzFan]

34 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Immigration is a red meat issue like abortion, gay marriage, trans bathrooms, guns. It affects few people but gets people's panties in a bunch. Tackling things like social security, bank regulation, military overspending, executive authority...I'm falling asleep already...wake me up when I get to something important...oh I got one: Stormy Daniels! Now I'm woke.

 

I am not against securing the border. But I am for less restrictive LEGAL immigration policy as well. We *need* immigrants. 

 

Oh, please. Topics like abortion, gay marriage and trans bathrooms exist almost exclusively these days to rile up the left's base and piss off Christians. Leftists write articles PROUD of their abortions. Gay marriage is widely accepted now. Trans bathrooms affects less than 2% of the US population, and all it's done so far is prove the hypocrisy of the left; and if you don't believe me, look up the story about the male coach in FL who just got transferred because he refused to watch an underage girl undress in the boy's locker room. 

 

Illegal immigration endangers the entire country, costs taxpayers billions of dollars, and flies in the face of what made this country great. We were a country viewed by immigrants as a pathway to individual successes based only on getting here legally, working your ass off, and making your own way in the world. I know because that's my families history.

 

I've been in CA for almost 30 years, and we're now viewed as a place to come for free food, free health care, free education, free phones, free shelter, and you can commit crimes and not get arrested.

 

If you think it's just a 'red meat' topic, you're hanging out in a very safe bubble.

[Misterbluesky]

7 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Especially after I earn enough liberty bells to add Juan de Sepulveda to my Continental Congress.

 

(If anyone gets that reference...God help you.)

I had no idea who that person was....but I get it.

[boyst]

21 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

Oh, please. Topics like abortion, gay marriage and trans bathrooms exist almost exclusively these days to rile up the left's base and piss off Christians. Leftists write articles PROUD of their abortions. Gay marriage is widely accepted now. Trans bathrooms affects less than 2% of the US population, and all it's done so far is prove the hypocrisy of the left; and if you don't believe me, look up the story about the male coach in FL who just got transferred because he refused to watch an underage girl undress in the boy's locker room. 

 

Illegal immigration endangers the entire country, costs taxpayers billions of dollars, and flies in the face of what made this country great. We were a country viewed by immigrants as a pathway to individual successes based only on getting here legally, working your ass off, and making your own way in the world. I know because that's my families history.

 

I've been in CA for almost 30 years, and we're now viewed as a place to come for free food, free health care, free education, free phones, free shelter, and you can commit crimes and not get arrested.

 

If you think it's just a 'red meat' topic, you're hanging out in a very safe bubble.

thanks for bringing that up about the florida teacher.  ***** terrifying and amazing we won't hear baout it in the popular news.

[KD in CA]

5 hours ago, LABillzFan said:

You see. Billy Idol gets it. I don't know why no one else gets it.

 

 

Chicken or fish, sir?

[BeginnersMind]

3 hours ago, LABillzFan said:

 

Oh, please. Topics like abortion, gay marriage and trans bathrooms exist almost exclusively these days to rile up the left's base and piss off Christians. Leftists write articles PROUD of their abortions. Gay marriage is widely accepted now. Trans bathrooms affects less than 2% of the US population, and all it's done so far is prove the hypocrisy of the left; and if you don't believe me, look up the story about the male coach in FL who just got transferred because he refused to watch an underage girl undress in the boy's locker room. 

 

That was my point. 

 

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Illegal immigration endangers the entire country, costs taxpayers billions of dollars, and flies in the face of what made this country great. We were a country viewed by immigrants as a pathway to individual successes based only on getting here legally, working your ass off, and making your own way in the world. I know because that's my families history.

 

I've been in CA for almost 30 years, and we're now viewed as a place to come for free food, free health care, free education, free phones, free shelter, and you can commit crimes and not get arrested.

 

If you think it's just a 'red meat' topic, you're hanging out in a very safe bubble.

 

It’s a red meat topic. One we need to address but down the list. How about we address social security? Military waste? The debt? Balanced budgets?

 

Oh no a caravan is coming—Nom nom nom red meat yummy. 

Edited November 16, 2018 by BeginnersMind

[4merper4mer]

29 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

That was my point. 

 

 

It’s a red meat topic. One we need to address but down the list. How about we address social security? Military waste? The debt? Balanced budgets?

 

Oh no a caravan is coming—Nom nom nom red meat yummy. 

You're a commie.

[3rdnlng]

29 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

That was my point. 

 

 

It’s a red meat topic. One we need to address but down the list. How about we address social security? Military waste? The debt? Balanced budgets?

 

Oh no a caravan is coming—Nom nom nom red meat yummy. 

In polls, illegal immigration is a very close 2nd place to healthcare. It's not "down the list".

[Deranged Rhino]

36 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

In polls, illegal immigration is a very close 2nd place to healthcare. It's not "down the list".

 

He also said it's an issue that impacts very few people. 

 

He knows nothing about any of the topics he ever pipes up about. He's here to slide conversations. Nothing more.

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

He also said it's an issue that impacts very few people. 

 

He knows nothing about any of the topics he ever pipes up about. He's here to slide conversations. Nothing more.

The most I can say about him is that he types a lot of words. I read somewhere recently that brevity is a sign of intelligence and I strive to get my point across in a minimal amount of blathering.

[BeginnersMind]

7 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

In polls, illegal immigration is a very close 2nd place to healthcare. It's not "down the list".

 

And so was abortion and so was gay marriage. It’s the hot button du juor. You’ll note that kind of like Rs didn’t really care that much about gay marriage, Ds are not all that excited about immigration. It’s the perfect issue for Rs to stir their base. It doesn’t counter-excite the left. 

 

In 5 years, little will have changed and we will be on to something else. 

Edited November 16, 2018 by BeginnersMind

[outsidethebox]

40 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

And so was abortion and so was gay marriage. It’s the hot button du juor. You’ll note that kind of like Rs didn’t really care that much about gay marriage, Ds are not all that excited about immigration. It’s the perfect issue for Rs to stir their base. It doesn’t counter-excite the left. 

 

In 5 years, little will have changed and we will be on to something else. 

The Dems will be on to something else when they no longer need them for their leftist agenda. Sad but true.  

Edited November 16, 2018 by westside

[Tiberius]

22 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I’m going to break into your house that is nicer than mine and demand access to your bigger bank account because, you know, I’m just seeking a better life. 

Stupid. Immigrants increase the wealth of the nation. You won't be losing anything, where do you get such idiotic ideas? You know nothing about economics

[outsidethebox]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Stupid. Immigrants increase the wealth of the nation. You won't be losing anything, where do you get such idiotic ideas? You know nothing about economics

If they increase wealth in a country,  why don't they just stay in their own country and produce wealth there?

I think you're using the pre 2016 liberal handbook. 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, westside said:

If they increase wealth in a country,  why don't they just stay in their own country and produce wealth there?

I think you're using the pre 2016 liberal handbook. 

Because our institutions are better and they can join right in! The more Americans the better!  

[outsidethebox]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Because our institutions are better and they can join right in! The more Americans the better!  

As long as they come in legally, welcome to America!

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, westside said:

As long as they come in legally, welcome to America!

Open borders!!! 

[outsidethebox]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Open borders!!! 

No way!!!

Why would you want every low life in the world coming into the US looking to steal everything you worked hard for? 

[Tiberius]

18 minutes ago, westside said:

No way!!!

Why would you want every low life in the world coming into the US looking to steal everything you worked hard for? 

Lol, joking, But we can let more in. Plenty of room, plenty of jobs. 

[Koko78]

46 minutes ago, westside said:

If they increase wealth in a country,  why don't they just stay in their own country and produce wealth there?

I think you're using the pre 2016 liberal handbook. 

 

Well, duh, if they stay in their own country, they won't be immigrants. If they're not immigrants, they don't produce wealth! Therefore they must jump the border fence into the US in order for them to be productive!

[BeginnersMind]

Illegal immigrants as a portion of US population is on decline over the last decade. I was surprised to see that. I would have thought this was a spiking problem. 

[TakeYouToTasker]

49 minutes ago, westside said:

If they increase wealth in a country,  why don't they just stay in their own country and produce wealth there?

I think you're using the pre 2016 liberal handbook. 

 

There is an incredibly compelling and sound argument that individuals fleeing their country or origin for better economic opportunities actually do incredible amounts of harm to those countries they are leaving.

 

When the brightest, most motivated, and hardest working exit an economy; it makes it much harder for those nations to improve their standing, creating a permanent international economic caste system.

 

IE.  permitting mass immigration to the United States does an incredible disservice to the third world, or as the left insists on calling them, "brown people". 

[B-Man]

 

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Eight buses full of caravan members have left the toll booth between Mexicali and Tijuana and will reach the city limits in a couple minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

Buses ??

 

 

[Foxx]

1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

There is an incredibly compelling and sound argument that individuals fleeing their country or origin for better economic opportunities actually do incredible amounts of harm to those countries they are leaving.

 

When the brightest, most motivated, and hardest working exit an economy; it makes it much harder for those nations to improve their standing, creating a permanent international economic caste system.

 

IE.  permitting mass immigration to the United States does an incredible disservice to the third world, or as the left insists on calling them, "brown people". 

the only problem with this is that legal immigrants tend to be those you speak of. illegal immigrants on the other hand, they usually are lower on the totem pole.

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Stupid. Immigrants increase the wealth of the nation. You won't be losing anything, where do you get such idiotic ideas? You know nothing about economics

 

So what you're saying if we just let anyone in regardless of their health, economic status, criminal record, ability to speak the language, or their labor skills or even if they have the ability to work will only help the economy?  And I'm the stupid one.  

 

 

[keepthefaith]

1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

There is an incredibly compelling and sound argument that individuals fleeing their country or origin for better economic opportunities actually do incredible amounts of harm to those countries they are leaving.

 

When the brightest, most motivated, and hardest working exit an economy; it makes it much harder for those nations to improve their standing, creating a permanent international economic caste system.

 

IE.  permitting mass immigration to the United States does an incredible disservice to the third world, or as the left insists on calling them, "brown people". 

 

This even happens within our country.  Buffalo being an example.  A lot of brain drain out of the area has contributed to economic malaise. 

Edited November 16, 2018 by keepthefaith

[TakeYouToTasker]

2 minutes ago, Foxx said:

the only problem with this is that legal immigrants tend to be those you speak of. illegal immigrants on the other hand, they usually are lower on the totem pole.

 

It's both, however legal immigration goes through a process which slows the drip.  Migration isn't a problem, in so much as mass migration is, which is where we get to illegal immigration.

 

People coming here illegally demonstrate through that act alone an incredible amount of desire and industriousness, differentiating them from their compatriots who simply choose to stay at home and live in third world conditions.

2 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

This even happens within our country.  Buffalo being an example.  A lot of brain drain out of the area has contributed to economic malaise. 

 

Indeed. Eroding a tax bases has much larger implications than simply a ,monetary exodus.

[Tiberius]

14 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So what you're saying if we just let anyone in regardless of their health, economic status, criminal record, ability to speak the language, or their labor skills or even if they have the ability to work will only help the economy?  And I'm the stupid one.  

 

 

Yes 

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Yes 

Well, you are well qualified to be a "stupid judge". In fact you have "stupid" down perfectly. You have made yourself the epitome of "stupid".

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

Well, you are well qualified to be a "stupid judge". In fact you have "stupid" down perfectly. You have made yourself the epitome of "stupid".

That's not a nice thing to say. Whats wrong with you? 

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

That's not a nice thing to say. Whats wrong with you? 

Being honest is not a fault. Would you want me to lie to you?

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Being honest is not a fault. Would you want me to lie to you?

Trump isn't honest at all, but you love him. 

[B-Man]

Mexican protesters took to the streets on Sunday to protest the growing influx of Central American migrants who have made their way to the border city of Tijuana.

 

In the most recent protest, groups of Tijuana residents want to evict the migrants from a shelter where approximately 2,000 Central Americans are staying. The Tijuana government set up the shelter as the city witnessed a reported buildup of federal and state police forces while the numbers of migrants continue to climb.

 

In two videos shared online by U.S. journalist Emily Green, dozens of protesters, some wearing wrestling masks and bandanas, can be seen marching towards the makeshift shelter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2018 by B-Man

[TakeYouToTasker]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

Mexican protesters took to the streets on Sunday to protest the growing influx of Central American migrants who have made their way to the border city of Tijuana.

 

In the most recent protest, groups of Tijuana residents want to evict the migrants from a shelter where approximately 2,000 Central Americans are staying. The Tijuana government set up the shelter as the city witnessed a reported buildup of federal and state police forces while the numbers of migrants continue to climb.

 

In two videos shared online by U.S. journalist Emily Green, dozens of protesters, some wearing wrestling masks and bandanas, can be seen marching towards the makeshift shelter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Liberals, please take note:  These are not "brown people", as you're so keen to label them.

 

These are individuals with disparate and distinct national identities and histories.