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2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Image result for political cartoon, democrats refusing to give up on Russia scandal

 

 

The D's should have nominated Ted Kennedy?  If you say so.

 

I remember 1980. He was 11 years post Chappaquidick.  He had his wife who he was separated from travel with him for appearances sake.  He was for socialized medicine before socialized medicine was cool. Would have played great with Reagan's I'm with the government and am here to help you routine.  Not to mention his 2 brothers got their heads blown off.  Many didn't even want him to run fearing another nut would try to make it a threefer.

 

As the Senator pointed out, if he had driven a VW Beetle, he might have had a chance.  But he didn't.  He drove a boat instead

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....time to pony up folks.....sad day if he drops out...GoFundMe for starters?......

 

Cory Booker memo warns candidate may not be in race 'much longer' without fundraising boost

By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News

 

Sen. Cory Booker’s presidential campaign manager is warning in a memo to staff that the Democratic senator from New Jersey must raise an additional $1.7 million by the end of the third quarter of fundraising – just 10 days away – or the campaign will not have a “legitimate long-term path forward.”

In the memo, campaign manager Addisu Demissie warned that following a weaker than expected cash haul during the early part of September, “the next 10 days will determine whether Cory Booker can stay in this race."

The existence of the memo was first reported Saturday morning by NBC News, with Fox News confirming the news with multiple sources.

Two sources, who asked to remain anonymous to speak more freely, said it was no accident that the memo was leaked, and described it as an effort to spark a surge in fundraising over the next 10 days.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cory-booker-memo-fundraising-warning

 

 

 

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I don't buy that 44 backs Kamala -- Clinton's team has been doing that and Clinton's folks and Obama's folks are not friendly. I do buy that Obama wants Joe to get out of the race though, because the worse Joe does and the more he's exposed as a corrupt fraud, the worse it looks for Obama's legacy. 


And that's all 44 cares about: himself and his legacy. 

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19 hours ago, Hedge said:

Soon...

 

 

I’ve never heard anyone on here say something big would happen soon. Glad to hear this. 

16 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

So long, Spartacus. 

 

He turned out to be a pretty empty suit. I would have put the highest odds on him after 2016. Seemed groomed to be the next nominee. 

 

I wonder if Warren will continue to rise. The Bernie bros could flock to her fast if they feel he’s falling. Yang has seen a bump of late but it’s probably too late for him. He’s a bit wacky but I hope there’s room in a future administration for some Silicon Valley moonshot thinking to attack some of our public problems. 

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14 minutes ago, ALF said:

I think Tom Steyer  would drive Trump crazy , maybe Warren.  I'm still bipartisan and like someone like John Kasich. 

 

Steyer is dirty AF. He's Mr. Walnut sauce for a reason. He's got zero shot, and if he did win it'd be bad news bears for the world. 

 

He's not just dirty, he's the worst kind of dirty. 

 

Warren will be the pick it seems like right now. And she won't win. In fact, a Warren/Trump match up puts the odds in Trump's favor of taking both the EC and popular votes. Socialism v Capitalism with Warren as the face (and voice) of socialism = no bueno for the DNC's chances. 

 

Kasich missed his window.

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5 minutes ago, ALF said:

I think Tom Steyer  would drive Trump crazy , maybe Warren.  I'm still bipartisan and like someone like John Kasich. 

 

Trump can handle Biden and Bernie on a stage. Harris, Warren would make him look stupid but his supporters don’t care. That’s one of his trademarks. 

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4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Steyer is dirty AF. He's Mr. Walnut sauce for a reason. He's got zero shot, and if he did win it'd be bad news bears for the world. 

 

He's not just dirty, he's the worst kind of dirty. 

 

Warren will be the pick it seems like right now. And she won't win. In fact, a Warren/Trump match up puts the odds in Trump's favor of taking both the EC and popular votes. Socialism v Capitalism with Warren as the face (and voice) of socialism = no bueno for the DNC's chances. 

 

She’s a terrible choice if they want to defeat Trump but she is on ascendance. 

 

This Ukraine stuff may buoy Biden. You have your pet theories but Trump may have shot himself in the balls on this. And Biden may be like watching your kid at a piano recital when he’s behind a mic, but he does a good job talking to places Trump needs. And he’s the only front runners who can do that. 

3 minutes ago, ALF said:

Yep, socialism vs  capitalism will be the main topic. I really want the working poor to be able to afford healthcare . The US will never become socialist but some major problems need solving .  

 

Trump was going to solve heath care in his first 6 months in office. You must have missed that. 

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....I'm probably too far over the hill to be rational.....but...there is an alarmingly fickle segment of the electorate where policy, direction and advancing this nation does not mean a rat's azz......first, it's the "gimme da freebees" crowd.......next up is to set precedent by electing a non-white male...care to offer up Obama's qualifications to lead this nation?....a junior state senator from Illinois (Corruptionville) as a cardboard cut out propped up my the most scurrilous ex-Clintonites?.....now let's move on to Hillary.....yet another hopeful precedent as the first female US President with ZERO qualifications....yet another fraudulent part of the Clinton Crime Syndicate who STILL cannot accept defeat.....so it's an upheaval conundrum for the fickle "gimme gimme" crowdto decide if their best choice is based on race (Harris, Booker), an angry old white dude (Sanders), senility's poster boy (...um...er....oh yes...Biden)....or the FEMALE Native American herself....WHICH candidate leads the charge?....scarily Warren because she is two fold......caters to the "gimme gimme" crowd AND is female.....uh oh......

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1 hour ago, John Adams said:

 

I’ve never heard anyone on here say something big would happen soon. Glad to hear this. 

 

He turned out to be a pretty empty suit. I would have put the highest odds on him after 2016. Seemed groomed to be the next nominee. 

 

I wonder if Warren will continue to rise. The Bernie bros could flock to her fast if they feel he’s falling. Yang has seen a bump of late but it’s probably too late for him. He’s a bit wacky but I hope there’s room in a future administration for some Silicon Valley moonshot thinking to attack some of our public problems. 

 

...the fickle "it's time for a female President" female contingent is scarier than hell...gender with that gang trumps (no pun intended) everything else.....policy and country vision doesn't mean jack..add in the "gimmee gimmee gang " as well..why do you think Hillary won the "popular" vote?..........da pant suit??................

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Everyone was already looking into Joe and his son -- this has only added gas to that fire. And gee, guess what, now there's a whole slew of corrupt Chinese deals to examine (as stated there would be). 

 

 

Sorry, Joe. You never really had a chance to begin with, but each hour that passes your odds of winning another election drop while your odds of facing legal consequences rises. 

 

Gonna be a tough fall (more ways than one) for Joe.

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4 hours ago, John Adams said:

 

She’s a terrible choice if they want to defeat Trump but she is on ascendance. 

 

This Ukraine stuff may buoy Biden. You have your pet theories but Trump may have shot himself in the balls on this. And Biden may be like watching your kid at a piano recital when he’s behind a mic, but he does a good job talking to places Trump needs. And he’s the only front runners who can do that. 

 

Trump was going to solve heath care in his first 6 months in office. You must have missed that. 

 

Well he did finally break the pile of ***** that was the ACA.

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32 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Well he did finally break the pile of ***** that was the ACA.

 

Breaking things easy.

 

Building them is hard. 

 

Our president pressured another government to investigate his leading political rival. That’s about as bad as it gets, DR’s rubber/glue argument notwithstanding. Just because Dems did awful stuff doesn’t make upping the ante somehow OK. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

Breaking things easy.

 

Building them is hard. 

 

Our president pressured another government to investigate his leading political rival. That’s about as bad as it gets, DR’s rubber/glue argument notwithstanding. Just because Dems did awful stuff doesn’t make upping the ante somehow OK. 

 

 

 

:lol:

 

Waiting on PROOF of that last paragraph, still.

 

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26 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

No, I put country before globalism every day.

 

 

You’re Trump before country. He called for another country’s president (elect) to investigate his front runner opponent, then called for it domestically. 

 

That should trouble you. When did he do this? 18 months ago before Biden ran? No. A year ago before he announced? No. 

 

He did it when Biden is ahead in every poll. Is it politically motivated. Oh yeah it is. 

 

Trump puts Trump before country too, so you guys have that in common. 

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8 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

You’re Trump before country. He called for another country’s president (elect) to investigate his front runner opponent, then called for it domestically. 

 

That should trouble you. When did he do this? 18 months ago before Biden ran? No. A year ago before he announced? No. 

 

He did it when Biden is ahead in every poll. Is it politically motivated. Oh yeah it is. 

 

Trump puts Trump before country too, so you guys have that in common. 

 

Can't have ANYONE looking into Joe Biden's shady dealings, can we?

 

You people are laughable.

 

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1 hour ago, John Adams said:

 

His lawyer admitted he did it. 

 

But even if there was a recording, you wouldn’t care. Just admit that and we can drop it. You put Trump before country every day. 

For Pete's sake dude you started the Russian collusion thread three years ago with stuff like "the entire intelligence community agrees........".

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45 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Can't have ANYONE looking into Joe Biden's shady dealings, can we?

 

You people are laughable.

 

Lot course not.  And if anyone suggests it be done it should be clear that they are a danger to our country.

 

Here is the flowchart:

 

If a Democrat is being investigated, the process dictates all.  Line 1 of the process is that all accusers must be democrats.

 

If a Republican is being charged, all that matters is the charge, guilt must be assumed and it is definitely a constitutional crisis.

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8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Lot course not.  And if anyone suggests it be done it should be clear that they are a danger to our country.

 

Here is the flowchart:

 

If a Democrat is being investigated, the process dictates all.  Line 1 of the process is that all accusers must be democrats.

 

If a Republican is being charged, all that matters is the charge, guilt must be assumed and it is definitely a constitutional crisis.

 

BUZZ

 

Wrong again 

 

Bad actors should get called on BS, regardless of party. 

 

9 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

Can't have ANYONE looking into Joe Biden's shady dealings, can we?

 

You people are laughable.

 

 

Sure you can dumb dumb. But maybe the president should have called for it before Joe was the leading Dem candidate. And maybe he could have asked someone other than another country's president to do it. 

 

Let's do the limbo-rock Joe: How low can you go?

 

8 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

For Pete's sake dude you started the Russian collusion thread three years ago with stuff like "the entire intelligence community agrees........".

 

The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election.

 

And guess what? IT DID! Even Trump admitted it, so stop being so dense. 

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47 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

BUZZ

 

Wrong again OGTcrayonz 

 

Bad actors should get called on BS, regardless of party. 

 

 

Sure you can dumb dumb. But maybe the president should have called for it before Joe was the leading Dem candidate. And maybe he could have asked someone other than another country's president to do it. 

 

Let's do the limbo-rock Joe: How low can you go?

 

 

The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election.

 

And guess what? IT DID! Even Trump admitted it, so stop being so dense. 

That was BS put out there 2 1/2 years ago and has been debunked here ad nauseum.

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59 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election.

 

And guess what? IT DID! Even Trump admitted it, so stop being so dense. 

What is the definition of interfered?   They brought some facebook ads but even Obama says not votes were changed.  You use the narrative to make it sound like there was more impact than in reality.

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1 hour ago, John Adams said:

The IC report listed 17 agencies that agreed that Russia interefered in our election.

 

But it didn't. Ever. Three years later and you still don't get what happened in 2016 because you still trust the word of proven liars.

 

In stories published April 6, June 2, June 26 and June 29, The Associated Press reported that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump. That assessment was based on information collected by three agencies – the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency – and published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which represents all U.S. intelligence agencies. Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment.

 

 

 

And fun fact -- if you read the ICA, rather than reports about the ICA, and listen to the testimony of Mike Rodgers, you'd understand the NSA only put their confidence in the report at 50%. 

 

So it was really just the FBI and CIA who agreed... and not even them since, in a move which violated protocol established post 9/11 regarding information sharing, Clapper and Brennan compartmentalized the investigation in both CIA and FBI to a small team of less than 12. All of whom have been fired for cause in the ensuing three years. 

(And, coincidentally, it was the same FBI/DOJ personnel tapped by Brennan who were working on the Mid Year Exam investigation into Clinton... It was always a coup)

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