MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, mannc said: Aaron Donald just did. So did O’Dell. Both in their 5th year option year. Try again 1 hour ago, simpleman said: You usually deal in reality. You are the one playing fantasy games. Beane was not involved in that draft. Saying it is so does not make it so. His first Buffalo draft was this year, and even you should be able to admit the preseason is too early to judge the quality of the draft. Make a statement in November about his first draft and it might have some significance then. Where did i say Beane. I said Regime did I not? McD is part of this regime is he not? Ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: For all the Whaley hate nobody had more guys play in the nfl than he did compared to any other gm. The guy drafted nfl talent left and right Been saying this for years. He knew who belonged in this league and drafted NFL talent. If one of those happened to be a QB, he'd still be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Both in their 5th year option year. Try again So was Mack. Drafted same year as those guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, mannc said: So was Mack. Drafted same year as those guys. Thanks captain obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Been saying this for years. He knew who belonged in this league and drafted NFL talent. If one of those happened to be a QB, he'd still be here. He was a terrible GM and you Whaley apologists are clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Thanks captain obvious Go back and look at what you said. You don’t express yourself clearly. And thanks for the gratuitous insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I think Chicago would have traded their entire draft to make sure GB didn’t get Mack. Mack is an outstanding talent, but those lost picks are really gonna hurt if Tribuski doesn’t pan out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: So, what you are saying is that good NFL players can be had for mid round draft picks but 1st round picks aren't all that important? No matter how many times you try to reframe your premise you're really just saying the same thing. First round draft picks are important, whether you use them to trade for a talented player or use them to draft a top notch prospect. Can a mistake be made? Of course. It's not the draft pick's fault though. Let’s just end this. You arent getting my point. I’m barely grasping yours. It really doesn’t matter. I think NFL teams overvalue draft picks and undervalue proven veterans. Thats the extent of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Let’s just end this. You arent getting my point. I’m barely grasping yours. It really doesn’t matter. I think NFL teams overvalue draft picks and undervalue proven veterans. Thats the extent of it. I agree with that. Teams would rather gamble on a RB in the top 5 than trade the pick for Adrian Peterson on his prime. It's overwhelmingly rare to get more back for a player that actually proved he was a stud. I've never understood it, because really, what are these teams hoping to land? Edited September 1, 2018 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Been saying this for years. He knew who belonged in this league and drafted NFL talent. If one of those happened to be a QB, he'd still be here. Whaley was above average identifier of talent. He was good at getting the necessary ingredients. Just didn’t seem to have a clear cut plan. He needed someone to tell him if they were making chili or beef stew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Whaley was above average identifier of talent. He was good at getting the necessary ingredients. Just didn’t seem to have a clear cut plan. He needed someone to tell him if they were making chili or beef stew. Fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: I think Chicago would have traded their entire draft to make sure GB didn’t get Mack. Mack is an outstanding talent, but those lost picks are really gonna hurt if Tribuski doesn’t pan out This is what’s being lost on many. Bears are dreaming of the day they can compete with Rodgers and the Pack. They may be a little closer than people think, and they were willing to vastly overpay to keep him away from their rival. It’s still the best known rivalry in the history of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m glad he’s in the nfc and as awesome as it would have been, I think he’s more of a guy you go after at that price when you are ready to contend, not when you need your picks to build around your qb. Bears are a year ahead of us on the rebuild. 4 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I'm just glad it was to a NFC team. Cuts both ways for me. Glad he is out of the conference but not thrilled that an AFC competitor has 4 first round picks in 2 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Have details still not been released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I like big names and big deals as much as the next guy but I am not upset it wasn't us. Sometimes your team gets better by watching the other teams implode. This is a move for teams in contention for a SB. Does Chicago really think they are close? The Bears are notoriously dumb for always paying retail. As for Oakland, they have signaled that they are not in win now mode. Gruden is an over rated gas bag who has only ever had success with veterans selected by someone else. If I'm David Carr, I'm looking for an exit. I was having flashbacks of the Mario Williams deal which amounted to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, mannc said: Go back and look at what you said. You don’t express yourself clearly. And thanks for the gratuitous insult. I clearly said that the 5th year option is a designed Trigger point. But thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I clearly said that the 5th year option is a designed Trigger point. But thanks Not what you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Well I guess so since they got the deal done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Yet another good angle. The Bills have one huge problem in the division and it’s number 12 - Mack would have helped solve that problem. I’m telling you, the fans here aren’t ready for what is going to happen this season. Lots of folks preaching patience in this thread will be the first to start panicking after a winless September. Do ou remember the Bills leading the league in sacks for a couple of seasons (2013 and 2014 to be exact) - what was their record versus Brady? 1-3 with the lone win being the las game of 2014 where they pulled Brady at the half because everything was sewn up. Teams get very little pressure on Brady and Mack would not have solved that poblem. He might help against the Jets or the Dolphins, but Mack makes no difference against the quick passing of Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 From some of the Raiders players' comments I wonder if that team implodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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