HappyDays Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, dickleyjones said: people try to make statistics mean more than they actually mean. if it were only for football that would be good. fact is, stats are used incorrectly in much more important areas of life...there is a lot of terrible medical research done by doctors who think they know something about the scientific method. once again: statistics say very little about the future of a specific player. PFF makes me laugh, it is impossible to take them seriously. This is so true. As an example the Football Outsiders guys laugh at Josh Allen's chances to become a franchise QB, but their own QBASE statistic gave him a 37.3% chance of being at least an adequate starter. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/qbase-2018 They supposedly are a statistics based website, but they laugh at someone with over a 1 in 3 chance of becoming an NFL starter. Anyone who knows probability knows that 37.3% is not that low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 There is a real reason teams that went full analytics. And are now backing away. It's a great tool to reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Just now, Chris farley said: There is a real reason teams that went full analytics. And are now backing away. It's a great tool to reference. No team has ever gone full analytics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No team has ever gone full analytics. True. Went a bit over the top with full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 8 hours ago, BuffAlone said: It could. But you could also take a ding to your credibility if your username turns out to be wrong...? I kid, I kid.... Have to say that I've been on this board for a while and read many many posts. This is easily the funniest I have read. You saw an opening and took your shot. Well played sir. Nothing short of brilliant!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No team has ever gone full analytics. "You went full analytics. Never go full analytics!" ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 8 hours ago, mykidsdad said: https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-2018-bills-19-browns-17 Interesting that PFF has little to say about Josh Allen's progress. I normally have a lot of confidence with their analytics and when they came out strongly against Josh Allen, I was really discouraged. If they end up being wrong on this, it may be one of their bigger misses using their advanced stats. It seems to me that they're already being a little stuborn about Josh's early success. It is very early, still, but I would have expected them to say something about him. Could Josh possibly ding their credibility? Pretty much it. 90% of the so called experts would be wrong on Josh and you can't have that. Let em doubt as it seems to help propel him. All that matters is what our coaches and players think. Here is a decent article from NFL.com on what our D thinks. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000949014/article/bills-defenders-praise-qb-allen-josh-is-impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Let’s have Josh play a few regular season games before declaring anyone right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 This is like draft grades - they need to hold the same position in order to look good. They will hold their narrative and hope they are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 The bills are very often overlooked or ignored. Why would anyone be surprised? Their games are rarely nationally televised and get the lower class announcing team. How many sports writers etc actually watch most bills games outside of WNY? But who cares? "If you brag about her too much it might give others ideas" ha. I will say though, their job involves statistics and the statistics do say that the safe bet is to bet against Josh as buffalo has seen many, many QBs come and go since {{Kelly}} and but one feckless wildcard game with a QB we did not even want. I believe in JA from what I saw these past two weeks and reminded my 10yo son, who was at the game with me the first game, that he saw JA's very first time on an NFL field and to remember that if he becomes a great. But I'm a fanboy of 45 years is all - I would not expect the same from the national media, etc. Let's enjoy under the radar and let JA develope without all the pressure that a Baker is going to have to endure - and god help darnold in NYC-NJ if he stumbles as there is no beneath the radar for him there. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 If he fsucceeds it makes national media lose credibility if they said he sucks i think bills gave up to much to trade up for him. If he doesn’t succeed it’s a big black mark on beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 hours ago, LeGOATski said: It's a little crazy to think that the Bills' coaching staff has miraculously fixed all of Allen's shortcomings over the course of one TC. Regardless, they'll get the credit if Allen turns into a franchise QB. I'm good with whatever they decide. Historically, guys like Peterman and McCarron don't keep a 7th overall pick on the bench. Only established vets do. Allen fixed a lot before the draft working with Jordan Palmer as well. I'm sure the Bills saw his improved mechanics and that weighed into their decision to draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 The Browns announcers raved about every Browns player, to the point it became a joke. They had very little to say about Bills players, but they really liked Allen. That, in itself, says a lot about the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 5 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said: He did a head first slide. I believe that is protected and marked essentials the same as a feet first slide this year. And the refs marked the spot wrong but I'm not gonna complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Wiz said: And the refs marked the spot wrong but I'm not gonna complain. That's because of the new rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly101 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) The whacked out media is extremely left, IMHO they want to persecute the bills for trading tt. Some proof, see the sudden drooling love for a team that won 1 game in 2-3 seasons. Edited August 19, 2018 by Kelly101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly101 said: The whacked out media is extremely left, IMHO they want to persecute the bills for trading tt. Do you eat Cocoa Puffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly101 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Do you eat Cocoa Puffs? bet you want to give me the alex jones treatment huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly101 said: bet you want to give me the alex jones treatment huh No. Please keep posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's because of the new rule. I mean he marked it where Allen landed and not where he initiated the dive/slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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