Bills' 2018 Training Camp Practice Day 14 at 8:45 AM at SJF - Closed to the Public

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[formerlyofCtown]

8 hours ago, Heitz said:

 

 

Getting chippy out there! 

 

 

 

Was Zay wearing clothes.

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[BillsFan17]

3 hours ago, nucci said:

he needs to heal up for the regular season.....and were you really laughing out loud? I don't think I said anything funny

Yes, i was because you dont just magically regain form by not being healthy for an entire year.

 

Murphy tore his ACL last year in the pre season and was due to face a four game suspension for PEDs, and you just assume he needs to be healthy for the regular season and thats all.

 

Like a switch will just flip and boom Murphy will be pefectly fine. Murphy has two, three, and nine sacks in three years with Washington. 

 

There isnt a body of work to assume Murphy will all of a sudden just become a beast without having shown the ability to get healthy, and play in live action.

[billsredneck1]

3 hours ago, Kmart128 said:

Feel so bad for O'Leary... The kid just makes big plays in games. He produces. Obviously he isn't as big and athletic as the ones that he is competing with but he stepped up last year when Clay got hurt. Would suck to not be able to have a roster spot for him.

i agree. he did win the best te in the nation award in college and imo the more targets he gets, the better he is.

 

he has got to be no.2 and if he's not ,it's all because of the bones new regimes have against players from the old. it can't be anything else.....and if godforbid clay went down, with no nick we suck at te....right away.

[vincec]

9 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

I still think the loser of Peterman v McCarron gets cut. 

 

Josh has shown enough that if he doesnt start he is the No 2. 

I think they will try to hold on to all three and get a trade for the loser.  No point in just cutting him outright. I agree, Allen will be number two no matter what, if no other reason that to get the snaps in practice with the Bills offense.

[SCBills]

4 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

Based on the camp reps and where they're all taking them, the WR ranking looks something like this to me (today's practice performance notwithstanding): 

 

1. Kelvin Benjamin

2. Andre Holmes

3. Jeremy Kerley

4. Zay Jones

5. Rod Streater

6. Brandon Reilly

7. Kaelin Clay

8. Raymond McCloud

9. Corey Coleman

10. Cam Phillips

11. Malachi Dupree

12. Robert Foster

13. Austin Proehl

 

Are they willing to keep seven? Or will they cut the list down to as few as four?

KB

Zay

Kerley

Coleman

Holmes

 

The rest are competing for 1 or 2 spots. (IMO)

[Logic]

12 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:

 

he has got to be no.2 and if he's not ,it's all because of the bones new regimes have against players from the old. it can't be anything else.....and if godforbid clay went down, with no nick we suck at te....right away.

Or it could be because Thomas, Croom, and Lee are all faster, stronger, better at blocking, and have outplayed O'Leary in camp and preseason. 

....Nahhhh, I'm sure you right. It's a private vendetta. Or maybe McDermott is more of an Arnold Palmer fan.

[billsredneck1]

Just now, Logic said:

Or it could be because Thomas, Croom, and Lee are all faster, stronger, better at blocking, and have outplayed O'Leary in camp and preseason. 

....Nahhhh, I'm sure you right. It's a private vendetta. Or maybe McDermott is more of an Arnold Palmer fan.

ok, i'll pull the body of work card....what has lee done before thurs. night? thomas...well he aint' no rookie either.   i do like the slight/former wr in croom.

 

if they carry 3 and i think they will, it's clay/o'leary and croom. lee is nothing more than lee smith and while i like logan, i don't see him as a good receiving te. jmo

[stevewin]

2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Check out Benjamin at the end try to knock the ball out of his hand ? 

[NewEra]

5 hours ago, eball said:

 

Zay will be #2 on opening day. Kerley and Coleman will be battling for the slot. Holmes likely hangs around for ST. You’ve got Streater, McCloud, Reilly and Phillips competing for either one or two spots. 

 

IMO

Sounds about right.  3 games left, so you never now how this will shake out but that seems like what’s going to happen imo

[Mat68]

Just now, NewEra said:

Sounds about right.  3 games left, so you never now how this will shake out but that seems like what’s going to happen imo

I dont see Coleman as a slot Wr.  I think he lines up outside and stretches the defense vertically.  With his speed he can run the go and Moss's stop go for 30 yards.  Three Wr sets I think you see Kerley and Mcclud as traditional slots.  I expect to see Benjamin lined up and moved around in a similar manner NE uses Gronk in passing situations.  In those instances Jones or Streeter line up outside.  The addition of Coleman is kind of a unheralded move but really helps define roles and options in the offense.  The Wr Corp really isn't that bad.  Benjamin, Coleman, Kerley, Jones, Streeter, Mcloud would be my choice.  

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I dont see Coleman as a slot Wr.  I think he lines up outside and stretches the defense vertically.  With his speed he can run the go and Moss's stop go for 30 yards.  Three Wr sets I think you see Kerley and Mcclud as traditional slots.  I expect to see Benjamin lined up and moved around in a similar manner NE uses Gronk in passing situations.  In those instances Jones or Streeter line up outside.  The addition of Coleman is kind of a unheralded move but really helps define roles and options in the offense.  The Wr Corp really isn't that bad.  Benjamin, Coleman, Kerley, Jones, Streeter, Mcloud would be my choice.  

Agreed. Coleman is an outside guy for sure.  Zay, Kerley, McCloud all better

fits inside 

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Quarterback

Things continuing to shake-up a bit with quarterback reps as we approach the second preseason game. AJ McCarron and Nathan Peterman both back on the field after injury scares Sunday afternoon. It was McCarron's turn in the rotation with the first team, but he was followed by Josh Allen running the second team and Nathan Peterman the third. This is how things were divided the entire morning, the first time ever we've seen Allen go exclusively with the 2's. While noteworthy, I won't look too far into it until after I see how the rotation shakes out Tuesday morning.

 

Wide receiver

Zay Jones fully back in the mix now after practicing for the first time this training camp without the red, non-contact jersey. He has looked good to this point and continued that wearing the blue jersey. Jones right in there with the first team, joining Kelvin Benjamin, Jeremy Kerley, and Andre Holmes. Rod Streater also seeing time with the 1's as well as even a little Kaelin Clay. Brandon Reilly missed practice yet again with a rib injury. Corey Coleman keeps learning on the fly as most of his time today was with the second team.

 

Center

The center competition continues to alternate days between Ryan Groy and Russell Bodine.

[eball]

8 hours ago, Mat68 said:

I dont see Coleman as a slot Wr.  I think he lines up outside and stretches the defense vertically.  With his speed he can run the go and Moss's stop go for 30 yards.  Three Wr sets I think you see Kerley and Mcclud as traditional slots.  I expect to see Benjamin lined up and moved around in a similar manner NE uses Gronk in passing situations.  In those instances Jones or Streeter line up outside.  The addition of Coleman is kind of a unheralded move but really helps define roles and options in the offense.  The Wr Corp really isn't that bad.  Benjamin, Coleman, Kerley, Jones, Streeter, Mcloud would be my choice.  

 

8 hours ago, NewEra said:

Agreed. Coleman is an outside guy for sure.  Zay, Kerley, McCloud all better

fits inside 

 

I read somewhere that perhaps Cleveland didn't really put Coleman in the best position and he can play the slot?  Also, in Daboll's offense I think they're looking for all of the players to be able to play the X, Y, or Z so they're all going to be versatile.

 

I still think Holmes stays around because of ST; he's continuing to get reps with the ones as well.

 

I agree Ray-Ray has a leg up on the competition; they really might keep only six, particularly if they keep three TEs.  I'd like to see what Phillips does Friday night.

[TPS]

14 hours ago, eball said:

 

Zay will be #2 on opening day. Kerley and Coleman will be battling for the slot. Holmes likely hangs around for ST. You’ve got Streater, McCloud, Reilly and Phillips competing for either one or two spots. 

 

IMO

One of the "criticisms" of Jones coming out. Of the draft was that many of his record-breaking catches were short passes and bubble screens. Sounds like a perfect fit for Daboll's offense.

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[NewEra]

4 hours ago, eball said:

 

 

I read somewhere that perhaps Cleveland didn't really put Coleman in the best position and he can play the slot?  Also, in Daboll's offense I think they're looking for all of the players to be able to play the X, Y, or Z so they're all going to be versatile.

 

I still think Holmes stays around because of ST; he's continuing to get reps with the ones as well.

 

I agree Ray-Ray has a leg up on the competition; they really might keep only six, particularly if they keep three TEs.  I'd like to see what Phillips does Friday night.

For sure, Daboll will be moving people around.  Regarding Coleman, he hasn’t had much success over the middle in college or the pros,  doesn’t seem like he like going over the middle and getting crunched.  I expect to see every wr in the slot at some point based on the new offense.  Can’t wait to see it in action again