YoloinOhio Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Likely because most teams feel that LBs are a dime a dozen, as usually they're reliant on what the D-line in front of them do and as long as have enough speed and are strong tacklers you can get away with drafting one later than sooner. Never heard that one before. And it wasn’t most teams, it was only 12 teams that didn’t pick a LB before the Bills at 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 if the kid comes on as fast as White this could be a top 10 Defense this year . I see him in the middle of the field on 3 and 6 type situation and get very excitedan . Plus i see him running down the field with Gronk and not looking like a dwarf next to him / 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Likely because most teams feel that LBs are a dime a dozen, as usually they're reliant on what the D-line in front of them do and as long as have enough speed and are strong tacklers you can get away with drafting one later than sooner. whoa some teams. In this Defense he is the perfect player. I agree in other defenses middle linebackers are not valued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Never heard that one before. And it wasn’t most teams, it was only 12 teams that didn’t pick a LB before the Bills at 16. LBs are the RBs of the defense. It's rather obvious, look at the salaries LBs get compared to D-lineman or high end CBs. It's a lot less. Edited June 1, 2018 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 The great rbs get paid just like the great lbs. the dime a dozen guys don’t get paid . Unlike qbs where everyone get a paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 5/31/2018 at 12:58 PM, YoloinOhio said: You lost me at Brewski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: You lost me at Brewski. How hard was it for him to tweet out something positive about a Bills player? He must really like Edmunds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: How hard was it for him to tweet out something positive about a Bills player? He must really like Edmunds. Tedy Bruschi is the only Cheat I despise more than Marcia. Edited June 3, 2018 by Freddie's Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I have been waiting for a great LBer for this team. Hopefully he keeps it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 5/31/2018 at 11:53 AM, FrankoElTanko said: The most amazing part is that we still took a shot at a QB... Even if we whiff there, taking Edmunds @ 16 w/o giving up anything next year... Unreal and not very Billsey. It makes me look forward to next year that much more. It's the NEW Billsey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, MJS said: It's the NEW Billsey. lets hope we fans don't fire them after this season of not making the playoffs potentially. i like the trend, even though it is testing some folks patience I suppose ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: lets hope we fans don't fire them after this season of not making the playoffs potentially. i like the trend, even though it is testing some folks patience I suppose ! How are people's patience being tested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, MJS said: How are people's patience being tested? Because the rebuild is taking too long ! Coaches get 3 years in some opinions. If Allen is not The Franchise QB, and or AJ starts and plays the season there will be plenty of folks calling for McB heads. I have seen it every year. This regime has hit a reset and let nearly everyone from the past go. It takes time to stabilize a Team under a new staff with new players. yes i think Bills have done a fine job and i do not mind waiting another year or two as long as we see competence and progress. Defense looks pretty good on paper right now. Offense ? Not so much. may not make playoffs this year.. thast what i mean by testing some Fans patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Because the rebuild is taking too long ! Coaches get 3 years in some opinions. If Allen is not The Franchise QB, and or AJ starts and plays the season there will be plenty of folks calling for McB heads. I have seen it every year. This regime has hit a reset and let nearly everyone from the past go. It takes time to stabilize a Team under a new staff with new players. yes i think Bills have done a fine job and i do not mind waiting another year or two as long as we see competence and progress. Defense looks pretty good on paper right now. Offense ? Not so much. may not make playoffs this year.. thast what i mean by testing some Fans patience We got to the playoffs in year 1. I figured that would calm the impatience, especially since fans have been waiting for that for almost two decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 5/31/2018 at 1:00 PM, RyanC883 said: This could be the biggest steal of the draft. A couple years from now, my guess is that the "redrafts" have him going top 3. With allen going #1 of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 5/31/2018 at 12:00 PM, RyanC883 said: This could be the biggest steal of the draft. A couple years from now, my guess is that the "redrafts" have him going top 3. I agree. IMO, Barkley, Chubb, Nelson, Smith and Edmunds were the cant miss non-QBs in the draft. And getting Edmunds at 16 is likely the biggest steal since the others all went top 8. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Because the rebuild is taking too long ! Coaches get 3 years in some opinions. If Allen is not The Franchise QB, and or AJ starts and plays the season there will be plenty of folks calling for McB heads. I have seen it every year. This regime has hit a reset and let nearly everyone from the past go. It takes time to stabilize a Team under a new staff with new players. yes i think Bills have done a fine job and i do not mind waiting another year or two as long as we see competence and progress. Defense looks pretty good on paper right now. Offense ? Not so much. may not make playoffs this year.. thast what i mean by testing some Fans patience I'm not thinking playoffs this season. I'm not ruling it out either. It's not about playoffs to me right now. I want a well run team so I don't feel incompetent managment is why the team fell short. I've seen people pushing for Allen to start this season and I am not. I do want a franchise QB but it doesn't have to be specifically Allen as long as it's somebody. So if Allen didn't work out and they found some one who did I wouldn't care. It could be Peterman for all I care if he's lighting up the field. Just making an extreme point when mentioning Peterman. I'm not worried about how other people choose to be fans. Some Bills fans are praising the Browns. Fans that are not loyal don't really deserve to be called Bills fans. I've bought into the culture. As long as that culture is in tact and this team plays with heart I will be supportive. I will be dissapointed in a loss but satisfied that it was a hard fought game with passion. I will love 100% even if it didn't win that day. The other teams are trying to win for thier fans too. They can call for McBeanes head and I'll be right here in disagreement. I feel comfortable with McDermott and Beane. I won't be ready to wave the white flag until the fat lady sings. Edited June 4, 2018 by Lfod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 hours ago, Lfod said: I'm not thinking playoffs this season. I'm not ruling it out either. It's not about playoffs to me right now. I want a well run team so I don't feel incompetent managment is why the team fell short. I've seen people pushing for Allen to start this season and I am not. I do want a franchise QB but it doesn't have to be specifically Allen as long as it's somebody. So if Allen didn't work out and they found some one who did I wouldn't care. It could be Peterman for all I care if he's lighting up the field. Just making an extreme point when mentioning Peterman. I'm not worried about how other people choose to be fans. Some Bills fans are praising the Browns. Fans that are not loyal don't really deserve to be called Bills fans. I've bought into the culture. As long as that culture is in tact and this team plays with heart I will be supportive. I will be dissapointed in a loss but satisfied that it was a hard fought game with passion. I will love 100% even if it didn't win that day. The other teams are trying to win for thier fans too. They can call for McBeanes head and I'll be right here in disagreement. I feel comfortable with McDermott and Beane. I won't be ready to wave the white flag until the fat lady sings. We are in agreement on all points presented ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I hope the reviews translate to play on the field as Tre’s did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Leslie Frazier is still DC?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 12 hours ago, Lfod said: I'm not thinking playoffs this season. I'm not ruling it out either. It's not about playoffs to me right now. I want a well run team so I don't feel incompetent managment is why the team fell short. I've seen people pushing for Allen to start this season and I am not. I do want a franchise QB but it doesn't have to be specifically Allen as long as it's somebody. So if Allen didn't work out and they found some one who did I wouldn't care. It could be Peterman for all I care if he's lighting up the field. Just making an extreme point when mentioning Peterman. I'm not worried about how other people choose to be fans. Some Bills fans are praising the Browns. Fans that are not loyal don't really deserve to be called Bills fans. I've bought into the culture. As long as that culture is in tact and this team plays with heart I will be supportive. I will be dissapointed in a loss but satisfied that it was a hard fought game with passion. I will love 100% even if it didn't win that day. The other teams are trying to win for thier fans too. They can call for McBeanes head and I'll be right here in disagreement. I feel comfortable with McDermott and Beane. I won't be ready to wave the white flag until the fat lady sings. The offense wasn't coached well last year and thus rick got fired. Shows me they are willing to make tough calls. The defense was coached well but didn't have the horses to get it done. Now in year two they do so i will like to see the defense take a big step. The offense lost some horses though pretty unexpectedly so we need to if the guys they brought in can be coached up and play well. Bob Babich is coaching Tremaine Edmunds and Urlacher credits babich with much of his success. Edmunds has the staff behind him that could push him into greatness. Edmunds could be in for a big career. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, aristocrat said: The offense wasn't coached well last year and thus rick got fired. Shows me they are willing to make tough calls. The defense was coached well but didn't have the horses to get it done. Now in year two they do so i will like to see the defense take a big step. The offense lost some horses though pretty unexpectedly so we need to if the guys they brought in can be coached up and play well. Bob Babich is coaching Tremaine Edmunds and Urlacher credits babich with much of his success. Edmunds has the staff behind him that could push him into greatness. Edmunds could be in for a big career. I don't think I knew this, that is very encouraging when you think about Edmunds development. I knew Edmunds was in good hands with McDermott, but having someone like Babich as his positional coach as well is great. A quick google search of Babich shows that Urlacher chose Babich to present him at the hall of fame induction ceremony. I didn't think I could get more excited about Edmunds, but it keeps happening. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, elroy16 said: I don't think I knew this, that is very encouraging when you think about Edmunds development. I knew Edmunds was in good hands with McDermott, but having someone like Babich as his positional coach as well is great. A quick google search of Babich shows that Urlacher chose Babich to present him at the hall of fame induction ceremony. I didn't think I could get more excited about Edmunds, but it keeps happening. i dont think it's been talked about too much but he was on wgr a while back i think pre draft but i dont think since then. it's a pretty neat story and i think shows well 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach55 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 If Trent Murphy pans out, we can have the Tre-cubed defense... ok. It’s a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankoElTanko Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 #TreDaytothe3rd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Coach55 said: If Trent Murphy pans out, we can have the Tre-cubed defense... ok. It’s a stretch. I feel like Murphy isn't getting talked about a lot. He put up some very solid numbers in 2016. If he and Lawson play well, the front 4 could be a very good unit which would be a big help for Edmunds. If it doesn't and they continue to struggle containing the run and getting to the passer, they'll really need to address that position next year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 6/3/2018 at 3:38 PM, MJS said: We got to the playoffs in year 1. I figured that would calm the impatience, especially since fans have been waiting for that for almost two decades. One would think !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 5/31/2018 at 4:35 PM, Jay_Fixit said: 5 fully capitalized words. That’s going full tilt. going HAM with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KW95 - JA17 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 5/31/2018 at 2:53 PM, FrankoElTanko said: The most amazing part is that we still took a shot at a QB... Even if we whiff there, taking Edmunds @ 16 w/o giving up anything next year... Unreal and not very Billsey. It makes me look forward to next year that much more. Spiller and the teacher/artist is billsy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 8:59 AM, Mr. WEO said: Leslie Frazier is still DC?? ...LOL.....let's review the TBD bi-polar pundits from date of hire....."WTF?.......he sucks.....worst HC ever......glorified DB Coach as our DC?.....we're done"......etc".......defense starts to show some promise and the lukewarm acceptance begins to slowly build only until a stinker.......he's back in the same "fire Frazier, McD, McBeane etc" crosshairs.......UNTIL the next decent game......so sort it all out and figure out where we are with him as DC.....he's here period............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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