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10 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

So you’re saying Tyrod wasn’t the engine of that offense? Correct.

How could I be so stupid? 


There, I corrected it for you.

No, I'm saying he did his job as directed as by the organization and stayed within it. Turning the ball over, with the defense we had in 2015 and 2016 would have led to an embarrassing result. 

By the way, get back to me with that 60 second tape of all the turnovers he created in three years. And please, by all means, go ahead and tell me how many QBs generated so much more offense on so few attempts.

Yard per completion and Yards Per Attempt by Tyrod Taylor were roughly in line with a top ten offense over the years 2015 and 2016. I guess that isn't good enough for you. Move on.

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25 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Tay Tay is gone and we should all be glad for his 1TD per game performances. 


He did as he was commanded to do.

Ran an offense that averaged 390 points from 2015-2016, and didn't turn the ball over in order to do it. It's a recipe for success - no matter who scores the touchdowns. You know ... since it's a team game.

 

Should be fun to watch this team without him in 2018. I'm sure we'll score a whole bunch more points and be a lot more effective without him. LMAO. Even the head coach told you this team isn't a playoff team - no where near it. But this QB took you to a 22-20 record, helped you to find a way to the playoffs and you're glad to see him leave.

I'll have a good laugh at you, all year long. Tyrod will lead the most improved team throughout the year, and the Bills will be the team that regresses the most.

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3 hours ago, Tyrod's friend said:


LMAO.

In 2016 he had fewer passes attempted than nearly every other starting QBs.
In 2015, he attempted even fewer.

Please inform me how he was supposed to complete passes he NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TO THROW.

Can we run the video on his turnovers as well?

Should take about 60 seconds.

He was 24, 25 and 25 the last 3 years in pass attempts.

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16 hours ago, TroutDog said:

My frustration with Tyrod was his unwillingness to throw to anyone save wide open receivers and only seeing half the field. If he learns to trust his teammates he would be, in my opinion, electric. 

He's almost 30. I think he is what he is honestly

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2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Don't agree with the 1st part and looking forward to the second.  TT wasn't Jim Kelly but he also wasn't JP Losman.

Way way way closer to JP Losman than Jim Kelly, that's not even debatable.

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1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said:


I think you'll find that if you adjust this for attempts per game you'll be a bit off. But regardless, does it make that much difference? 

2015

Rk   Tm Age Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD
1 Philip Rivers SDG 34 QB 16 16 4-12-0 437 661 66.1 4792 29 4.4 13 2.0 80 7.2 7.2 11.0 299.5 93.8 55.7 40 264 6.46 6.45 5.7 1 2
2 Drew Brees NOR 36 QB 15 15 7-8-0 428 627 68.3 4870 32 5.1 11 1.8 80 7.8 8.0 11.4 324.7 101.0 70.4 31 235 7.04 7.26 4.7 1 2
3 Tom Brady* NWE 38 QB 16 16 12-4-0 402 624 64.4 4770 36 5.8 7 1.1 76 7.6 8.3 11.9 298.1 102.2 68.0 38 225 6.87 7.48 5.7 2 2
4 Eli Manning* NYG 34 QB 16 16 6-10-0 387 618 62.6 4432 35 5.7 14 2.3 87 7.2 7.3 11.5 277.0 93.6 60.5 27 157 6.63 6.74 4.2 1 2
5 Matt Ryan ATL 30 QB 16 16 8-8-0 407 614 66.3 4591 21 3.4 16 2.6 70 7.5 7.0 11.3 286.9 89.0 69.6 30 203 6.81 6.35 4.7 4 4
6 Blake Bortles JAX 23 QB 16 16 5-11-0 355 606 58.6 4428 35 5.8 18 3.0 90 7.3 7.1 12.5 276.8 88.2 51.8 51 320 6.25 6.09 7.8 3 4
7 Matthew Stafford DET 27 QB 16 16 7-9-0 398 592 67.2 4262 32 5.4 13 2.2 57 7.2 7.3 10.7 266.4 97.0 58.5 44 251 6.31 6.39 6.9 2 3
8 Ryan Tannehill MIA 27 QB 16 16 6-10-0 363 586 61.9 4208 24 4.1 12 2.0 54 7.2 7.1 11.6 263.0 88.7 46.3 45 420 6.00 5.91 7.1 2 2
9 Derek Carr* OAK 24 QB 16 16 7-9-0 350 573 61.1 3987 32 5.6 13 2.3 68 7.0 7.1 11.4 249.2 91.1 41.2 31 230 6.22 6.31 5.1 4 4
10 Aaron Rodgers* GNB 32 QB 16 16 10-6-0 347 572 60.7 3821 31 5.4 8 1.4 65 6.7 7.1 11.0 238.8 92.7 60.3 46 314 5.67 6.10 7.4 2 2
11 Ryan Fitzpatrick NYJ 33 QB 16 16 10-6-0 335 562 59.6 3905 31 5.5 15 2.7 69 6.9 6.9 11.7 244.1 88.0 63.5 19 94 6.56 6.46 3.3 2 3
12 Kirk Cousins WAS 27 QB 16 16 9-7-0 379 543 69.8 4166 29 5.3 11 2.0 78 7.7 7.8 11.0 260.4 101.6 71.7 26 186 6.99 7.14 4.6 2 3
13 Carson Palmer* ARI 36 QB 16 16 13-3-0 342 537 63.7 4671 35 6.5 11 2.0 68 8.7 9.1 13.7 291.9 104.6 77.1 25 151 8.04 8.41 4.4 1 4
14 Jameis Winston* TAM 21 QB 16 16 6-10-0 312 535 58.3 4042 22 4.1 15 2.8 68 7.6 7.1 13.0 252.6 84.2 61.1 27 190 6.85 6.44 4.8 2 3
15 Sam Bradford PHI 28 QB 14 14 7-7-0 346 532 65.0 3725 19 3.6 14 2.6 78 7.0 6.5 10.8 266.1 86.4 42.1 28 200 6.29 5.85 5.0 0 2
16 Cam Newton*+ CAR 26 QB 16 16 15-1-0 296 495 59.8 3837 35 7.1 10 2.0 74 7.8 8.3 13.0 239.8 99.4 67.0 33 284 6.73 7.20 6.3 3 4
17 Jay Cutler CHI 32 QB 15 15 6-9-0 311 483 64.4 3659 21 4.3 11 2.3 87 7.6 7.4 11.8 243.9 92.3 59.9 29 150 6.85 6.71 5.7 4 4
18 Russell Wilson* SEA 27 QB 16 16 10-6-0 329 483 68.1 4024 34 7.0 8 1.7 80 8.3 9.0 12.2 251.5 110.1 67.3 45 265 7.12 7.73 8.5 2 2
19 Alex Smith KAN 31 QB 16 16 11-5-0 307 470 65.3 3486 20 4.3 7 1.5 80 7.4 7.6 11.4 217.9 95.4 58.4 45 235 6.31 6.48 8.7 1 1
20 Ben Roethlisberger* PIT 33 QB 12 11 7-4-0 319 469 68.0 3938 21 4.5 16 3.4 69 8.4 7.8 12.3 328.2 94.5 71.1 20 141 7.76 7.15 4.1 1 1
21 Teddy Bridgewater* MIN 23 QB 16 16 11-5-0 292 447 65.3 3231 14 3.1 9 2.0 52 7.2 6.9 11.1 201.9 88.7 57.5 44 307 5.96 5.70 9.0 1 1
22 Joe Flacco BAL 30 QB 10 10 3-7-0 266 413 64.4 2791 14 3.4 12 2.9 50 6.8 6.1 10.5 279.1 83.1 49.7 16 124 6.22 5.61 3.7 3 3
23 Andy Dalton CIN 28 QB 13 13 10-3-0 255 386 66.1 3250 25 6.5 7 1.8 80 8.4 8.9 12.7 250.0 106.2 70.0 20 118 7.71 8.17 4.9 3 3
24 Tyrod Taylor* BUF 26 QB/wr 14 14 7-6-0 242 380 63.7 3035 20 5.3 6 1.6 63 8.0 8.3 12.5 216.8 99.4 65.3 36 212 6.79 7.10 8.7 1 2

2016

Rk   Tm Age Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD
1 Drew Brees* NOR 37 QB 16 16 7-9-0 471 673 70.0 5208 37 5.5 15 2.2 98 7.7 7.8 11.1 325.5 101.7 65.1 27 184 7.18 7.27 3.9 2 4
2 Joe Flacco BAL 31 QB 16 16 8-8-0 436 672 64.9 4317 20 3.0 15 2.2 95 6.4 6.0 9.9 269.8 83.5 52.7 33 243 5.78 5.39 4.7 2 2
3 Blake Bortles JAX 24 QB 16 16 3-13-0 368 625 58.9 3905 23 3.7 16 2.6 51 6.2 5.8 10.6 244.1 78.8 42.8 34 197 5.63 5.23 5.2 1 1
4 Aaron Rodgers* GNB 33 QB 16 16 10-6-0 401 610 65.7 4428 40 6.6 7 1.1 60 7.3 8.1 11.0 276.8 104.2 73.8 35 246 6.48 7.24 5.4 0 2
5 Carson Wentz PHI 24 QB 16 16 7-9-0 379 607 62.4 3782 16 2.6 14 2.3 73 6.2 5.7 10.0 236.4 79.3 49.4 33 213 5.58 5.09 5.2 1 1
6 Kirk Cousins* WAS 28 QB 16 16 8-7-1 406 606 67.0 4917 25 4.1 12 2.0 80 8.1 8.0 12.1 307.3 97.2 66.1 23 190 7.52 7.45 3.7 4 4
7 Eli Manning NYG 35 QB 16 16 11-5-0 377 598 63.0 4027 26 4.3 16 2.7 75 6.7 6.4 10.7 251.7 86.0 49.3 21 142 6.28 5.95 3.4 3 6
8 Carson Palmer ARI 37 QB 15 15 6-8-1 364 597 61.0 4233 26 4.4 14 2.3 80 7.1 6.9 11.6 282.2 87.2 54.5 40 281 6.20 6.03 6.3 1 3
9 Matthew Stafford DET 28 QB 16 16 9-7-0 388 594 65.3 4327 24 4.0 10 1.7 73 7.3 7.3 11.2 270.4 93.3 66.5 37 216 6.52 6.56 5.9 8 8
10 Philip Rivers* SDG 35 QB 16 16 5-11-0 349 578 60.4 4386 33 5.7 21 3.6 59 7.6 7.1 12.6 274.1 87.9 57.5 36 188 6.84 6.37 5.9 1 1
11 Jameis Winston TAM 22 QB 16 16 9-7-0 345 567 60.8 4090 28 4.9 18 3.2 45 7.2 6.8 11.9 255.6 86.1 59.7 35 239 6.40 5.98 5.8 1 3
12 Andy Dalton* CIN 29 QB 16 16 6-9-1 364 563 64.7 4206 18 3.2 8 1.4 86 7.5 7.5 11.6 262.9 91.8 50.8 41 264 6.53 6.53 6.8 2 1
13 Derek Carr* OAK 25 QB 15 15 12-3-0 357 560 63.8 3937 28 5.0 6 1.1 75 7.0 7.5 11.0 262.5 96.7 54.6 16 79 6.70 7.20 2.8 7 7
14 Sam Bradford MIN 29 QB 15 15 7-8-0 395 552 71.6 3877 20 3.6 5 0.9 71 7.0 7.3 9.8 258.5 99.3 57.3 37 276 6.11 6.41 6.3 1 1
15 Russell Wilson SEA 28 QB 16 16 10-5-1 353 546 64.7 4219 21 3.8 11 2.0 59 7.7 7.6 12.0 263.7 92.6 56.8 41 293 6.69 6.56 7.0 4 3
16 Andrew Luck IND 27 QB 15 15 8-7-0 346 545 63.5 4240 31 5.7 13 2.4 64 7.8 7.8 12.3 282.7 96.4 65.9 41 268 6.78 6.84 7.0 4 4
17 Matt Ryan*+ ATL 31 QB 16 16 11-5-0 373 534 69.9 4944 38 7.1 7 1.3 76 9.3 10.1 13.3 309.0 117.1 79.4 37 235 8.25 9.03 6.5 1 2
18 Cam Newton CAR 27 QB 15 14 6-8-0 270 510 52.9 3509 19 3.7 14 2.7 88 6.9 6.4 13.0 233.9 75.8 48.0 36 277 5.92 5.46 6.6    
19 Brock Osweiler HOU 26 QB 15 14 8-6-0 301 510 59.0 2957 15 2.9 16 3.1 53 5.8 5.0 9.8 197.1 72.2 49.5 27 206 5.12 4.34 5.0 2 2
20 Ben Roethlisberger* PIT 34 QB 14 14 10-4-0 328 509 64.4 3819 29 5.7 13 2.6 72 7.5 7.5 11.6 272.8 95.4 61.8 17 141 6.99 6.98 3.2 2 2
21 Alex Smith* KAN 32 QB 15 15 11-4-0 328 489 67.1 3502 15 3.1 8 1.6 80 7.2 7.0 10.7 233.5 91.2 58.0 28 140 6.50 6.39 5.4 3 3
22 Trevor Siemian DEN 25 QB 14 14 8-6-0 289 486 59.5 3401 18 3.7 10 2.1 76 7.0 6.8 11.8 242.9 84.6 48.4 31 187 6.22 6.04 6.0 3 2
23 Dak Prescott* DAL 23 QB 16 16 13-3-0 311 459 67.8 3667 23 5.0 4 0.9 83 8.0 8.6 11.8 229.2 104.9 78.8 25 143 7.28 7.86 5.2 5 5
24 Marcus Mariota TEN 23 QB 15 15 8-7-0 276 451 61.2 3426 26 5.8 9 2.0 60 7.6 7.9 12.4 228.4 95.6 59.4 23 156 6.90 7.14 4.9 2 2
25 Tyrod Taylor BUF 27 QB 15 15 7-8-0 269 436 61.7 3023 17 3.9 6 1.4 84 6.9 7.1 11.2 201.5 89.7 61.4 42 192 5.92 6.07 8.8 1 1

2017

Rk   Tm Age Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD
1 Tom Brady*+ NWE 40 QB 16 16 13-3-0 385 581 66.3 4577 32 5.5 8 1.4 64 7.9 8.4 11.9 286.1 102.8 70.2 35 201 7.10 7.56 5.7 2 2
2 Philip Rivers* LAC 36 QB 16 16 9-7-0 360 575 62.6 4515 28 4.9 10 1.7 75 7.9 8.0 12.5 282.2 96.0 60.6 18 120 7.41 7.60 3.0 2 2
3 Eli Manning NYG 36 QB 15 15 3-12-0 352 571 61.6 3468 19 3.3 13 2.3 77 6.1 5.7 9.9 231.2 80.4 41.7 31 189 5.45 5.11 5.1 0 1
4 Matthew Stafford DET 29 QB 16 16 9-7-0 371 565 65.7 4446 29 5.1 10 1.8 71 7.9 8.1 12.0 277.9 99.3 61.8 47 287 6.80 7.01 7.7 1 4
5 Ben Roethlisberger* PIT 35 QB 15 15 12-3-0 360 561 64.2 4251 28 5.0 14 2.5 97 7.6 7.5 11.8 283.4 93.4 62.9 21 139 7.07 6.95 3.6 3 4
6 Russell Wilson* SEA 29 QB 16 16 9-7-0 339 553 61.3 3983 34 6.1 11 2.0 74 7.2 7.5 11.7 248.9 95.4 58.1 43 322 6.14 6.45 7.2 2 2
7 Joe Flacco BAL 32 QB 16 16 9-7-0 352 549 64.1 3141 18 3.3 13 2.4 66 5.7 5.3 8.9 196.3 80.4 46.0 27 205 5.10 4.71 4.7    
8 Kirk Cousins WAS 29 QB 16 16 7-9-0 347 540 64.3 4093 27 5.0 13 2.4 74 7.6 7.5 11.8 255.8 93.9 50.5 41 342 6.46 6.38 7.1 1 4
9 Drew Brees* NOR 38 QB 16 16 11-5-0 386 536 72.0 4334 23 4.3 8 1.5 54 8.1 8.3 11.2 270.9 103.9 61.1 20 145 7.53 7.71 3.6 2 2
10 Matt Ryan ATL 32 QB 16 16 10-6-0 342 529 64.7 4095 20 3.8 12 2.3 88 7.7 7.5 12.0 255.9 91.4 64.9 24 156 7.12 6.87 4.3 2 3
11 Blake Bortles JAX 25 QB 16 16 10-6-0 315 523 60.2 3687 21 4.0 13 2.5 75 7.0 6.7 11.7 230.4 84.7 55.5 24 123 6.52 6.21 4.4 1 1
12 Derek Carr* OAK 26 QB 15 15 6-9-0 323 515 62.7 3496 22 4.3 13 2.5 87 6.8 6.5 10.8 233.1 86.4 47.2 20 101 6.35 6.07 3.7 1 1
13 Alex Smith* KAN 33 QB 15 15 9-6-0 341 505 67.5 4042 26 5.1 5 1.0 79 8.0 8.6 11.9 269.5 104.7 63.6 35 207 7.10 7.65 6.5 1 3
14 Andy Dalton CIN 30 QB 16 16 7-9-0 297 496 59.9 3320 25 5.0 12 2.4 77 6.7 6.6 11.2 207.5 86.6 42.0 39 255 5.73 5.65 7.3 3 3
15 Cam Newton CAR 28 QB 16 16 11-5-0 291 492 59.1 3302 22 4.5 16 3.3 64 6.7 6.1 11.3 206.4 80.7 49.6 35 242 5.81 5.28 6.6 1 3
16 Dak Prescott DAL 24 QB 16 16 9-7-0 308 490 62.9 3324 22 4.5 13 2.7 81 6.8 6.5 10.8 207.8 86.6 66.3 32 185 6.01 5.74 6.1 0 4
17 Case Keenum MIN 29 QB 15 14 11-3-0 325 481 67.6 3547 22 4.6 7 1.5 65 7.4 7.6 10.9 236.5 98.3 71.3 22 136 6.78 7.03 4.4 1 3
18 Jared Goff* LAR 23 QB 15 15 11-4-0 296 477 62.1 3804 28 5.9 7 1.5 94 8.0 8.5 12.9 253.6 100.5 48.4 25 172 7.24 7.72 5.0 1 1
19 DeShone Kizer CLE 21 QB 15 15 0-15-0 255 476 53.6 2894 11 2.3 22 4.6 56 6.1 4.5 11.3 192.9 60.5 26.7 38 226 5.19 3.69 7.4    
20 Jacoby Brissett IND 25 QB 16 15 4-11-0 276 469 58.8 3098 13 2.8 7 1.5 80 6.6 6.5 11.2 193.6 81.7 37.9 52 305 5.36 5.26 10.0 0 1
21 Marcus Mariota TEN 24 QB 15 15 9-6-0 281 453 62.0 3232 13 2.9 15 3.3 75 7.1 6.2 11.5 215.5 79.3 55.1 27 173 6.37 5.51 5.6 3 4
22 Jameis Winston TAM 23 QB 13 13 3-10-0 282 442 63.8 3504 19 4.3 11 2.5 70 7.9 7.7 12.4 269.5 92.2 50.3 33 207 6.94 6.70 6.9 2 2
23 Carson Wentz* PHI 25 QB 13 13 11-2-0 265 440 60.2 3296 33 7.5 7 1.6 72 7.5 8.3 12.4 253.5 101.9 74.4 28 162 6.70 7.43 6.0 1 1
24 Jay Cutler MIA 34 QB 14 14 6-8-0 266 429 62.0 2666 19 4.4 14 3.3 65 6.2 5.6 10.0 190.4 80.8 41.9 20 154 5.59 5.04 4.5 2 3
25 Tyrod Taylor BUF 28 QB 15 14 8-6-0 263 420 62.6 2799 14 3.3 4 1.0 47 6.7 6.9 10.6 186.6 89.2 56.4 46 256 5.46 5.67 9.9 1 2
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5 minutes ago, Agent 91 said:

He's almost 30. I think he is what he is honestly


I couldn't agree with you more. 

He averaged 7.7 aypa and nearly 12 ypc completion with the fewest turnovers in the NFL. I think if you are believing he could be more than that you are insane. He'd be in the Matt Stafford area to be better than that. 
 

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35 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:

He did as he was commanded to do.


He did the only thing he could.  

 

Play sandlot football.  

 

Even w/o Tay Tay the Bills under Rex in season 1 still scored over 22 ppg.  

 

 

1 minute ago, uticaclub said:

Game on the line, do you want Tyrod or someone else?

 

He did some good things, had his limitations but was absolutely awful when playing from behind 

Someone else that can pass the ball 

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1 hour ago, Tyrod's friend said:


There, I corrected it for you.

No, I'm saying he did his job as directed as by the organization and stayed within it. Turning the ball over, with the defense we had in 2015 and 2016 would have led to an embarrassing result. 

By the way, get back to me with that 60 second tape of all the turnovers he created in three years. And please, by all means, go ahead and tell me how many QBs generated so much more offense on so few attempts.

Yard per completion and Yards Per Attempt by Tyrod Taylor were roughly in line with a top ten offense over the years 2015 and 2016. I guess that isn't good enough for you. Move on.

 

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3 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said:

2015

Rk   Tm Age Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD
1 Philip Rivers SDG 34 QB 16 16 4-12-0 437 661 66.1 4792 29 4.4 13 2.0 80 7.2 7.2 11.0 299.5 93.8 55.7 40 264 6.46 6.45 5.7 1 2
2 Drew Brees NOR 36 QB 15 15 7-8-0 428 627 68.3 4870 32 5.1 11 1.8 80 7.8 8.0 11.4 324.7 101.0 70.4 31 235 7.04 7.26 4.7 1 2
3 Tom Brady* NWE 38 QB 16 16 12-4-0 402 624 64.4 4770 36 5.8 7 1.1 76 7.6 8.3 11.9 298.1 102.2 68.0 38 225 6.87 7.48 5.7 2 2
4 Eli Manning* NYG 34 QB 16 16 6-10-0 387 618 62.6 4432 35 5.7 14 2.3 87 7.2 7.3 11.5 277.0 93.6 60.5 27 157 6.63 6.74 4.2 1 2
5 Matt Ryan ATL 30 QB 16 16 8-8-0 407 614 66.3 4591 21 3.4 16 2.6 70 7.5 7.0 11.3 286.9 89.0 69.6 30 203 6.81 6.35 4.7 4 4
6 Blake Bortles JAX 23 QB 16 16 5-11-0 355 606 58.6 4428 35 5.8 18 3.0 90 7.3 7.1 12.5 276.8 88.2 51.8 51 320 6.25 6.09 7.8 3 4
7 Matthew Stafford DET 27 QB 16 16 7-9-0 398 592 67.2 4262 32 5.4 13 2.2 57 7.2 7.3 10.7 266.4 97.0 58.5 44 251 6.31 6.39 6.9 2 3
8 Ryan Tannehill MIA 27 QB 16 16 6-10-0 363 586 61.9 4208 24 4.1 12 2.0 54 7.2 7.1 11.6 263.0 88.7 46.3 45 420 6.00 5.91 7.1 2 2
9 Derek Carr* OAK 24 QB 16 16 7-9-0 350 573 61.1 3987 32 5.6 13 2.3 68 7.0 7.1 11.4 249.2 91.1 41.2 31 230 6.22 6.31 5.1 4 4
10 Aaron Rodgers* GNB 32 QB 16 16 10-6-0 347 572 60.7 3821 31 5.4 8 1.4 65 6.7 7.1 11.0 238.8 92.7 60.3 46 314 5.67 6.10 7.4 2 2
11 Ryan Fitzpatrick NYJ 33 QB 16 16 10-6-0 335 562 59.6 3905 31 5.5 15 2.7 69 6.9 6.9 11.7 244.1 88.0 63.5 19 94 6.56 6.46 3.3 2 3
12 Kirk Cousins WAS 27 QB 16 16 9-7-0 379 543 69.8 4166 29 5.3 11 2.0 78 7.7 7.8 11.0 260.4 101.6 71.7 26 186 6.99 7.14 4.6 2 3
13 Carson Palmer* ARI 36 QB 16 16 13-3-0 342 537 63.7 4671 35 6.5 11 2.0 68 8.7 9.1 13.7 291.9 104.6 77.1 25 151 8.04 8.41 4.4 1 4
14 Jameis Winston* TAM 21 QB 16 16 6-10-0 312 535 58.3 4042 22 4.1 15 2.8 68 7.6 7.1 13.0 252.6 84.2 61.1 27 190 6.85 6.44 4.8 2 3
15 Sam Bradford PHI 28 QB 14 14 7-7-0 346 532 65.0 3725 19 3.6 14 2.6 78 7.0 6.5 10.8 266.1 86.4 42.1 28 200 6.29 5.85 5.0 0 2
16 Cam Newton*+ CAR 26 QB 16 16 15-1-0 296 495 59.8 3837 35 7.1 10 2.0 74 7.8 8.3 13.0 239.8 99.4 67.0 33 284 6.73 7.20 6.3 3 4
17 Jay Cutler CHI 32 QB 15 15 6-9-0 311 483 64.4 3659 21 4.3 11 2.3 87 7.6 7.4 11.8 243.9 92.3 59.9 29 150 6.85 6.71 5.7 4 4
18 Russell Wilson* SEA 27 QB 16 16 10-6-0 329 483 68.1 4024 34 7.0 8 1.7 80 8.3 9.0 12.2 251.5 110.1 67.3 45 265 7.12 7.73 8.5 2 2
19 Alex Smith KAN 31 QB 16 16 11-5-0 307 470 65.3 3486 20 4.3 7 1.5 80 7.4 7.6 11.4 217.9 95.4 58.4 45 235 6.31 6.48 8.7 1 1
20 Ben Roethlisberger* PIT 33 QB 12 11 7-4-0 319 469 68.0 3938 21 4.5 16 3.4 69 8.4 7.8 12.3 328.2 94.5 71.1 20 141 7.76 7.15 4.1 1 1
21 Teddy Bridgewater* MIN 23 QB 16 16 11-5-0 292 447 65.3 3231 14 3.1 9 2.0 52 7.2 6.9 11.1 201.9 88.7 57.5 44 307 5.96 5.70 9.0 1 1
22 Joe Flacco BAL 30 QB 10 10 3-7-0 266 413 64.4 2791 14 3.4 12 2.9 50 6.8 6.1 10.5 279.1 83.1 49.7 16 124 6.22 5.61 3.7 3 3
23 Andy Dalton CIN 28 QB 13 13 10-3-0 255 386 66.1 3250 25 6.5 7 1.8 80 8.4 8.9 12.7 250.0 106.2 70.0 20 118 7.71 8.17 4.9 3 3
24 Tyrod Taylor* BUF 26 QB/wr 14 14 7-6-0 242 380 63.7 3035 20 5.3 6 1.6 63 8.0 8.3 12.5 216.8 99.4 65.3 36 212 6.79 7.10 8.7 1 2

2016

Rk   Tm Age Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD
1 Drew Brees* NOR 37 QB 16 16 7-9-0 471 673 70.0 5208 37 5.5 15 2.2 98 7.7 7.8 11.1 325.5 101.7 65.1 27 184 7.18 7.27 3.9 2 4
2 Joe Flacco BAL 31 QB 16 16 8-8-0 436 672 64.9 4317 20 3.0 15 2.2 95 6.4 6.0 9.9 269.8 83.5 52.7 33 243 5.78 5.39 4.7 2 2
3 Blake Bortles JAX 24 QB 16 16 3-13-0 368 625 58.9 3905 23 3.7 16 2.6 51 6.2 5.8 10.6 244.1 78.8 42.8 34 197 5.63 5.23 5.2 1 1
4 Aaron Rodgers* GNB 33 QB 16 16 10-6-0 401 610 65.7 4428 40 6.6 7 1.1 60 7.3 8.1 11.0 276.8 104.2 73.8 35 246 6.48 7.24 5.4 0 2
5 Carson Wentz PHI 24 QB 16 16 7-9-0 379 607 62.4 3782 16 2.6 14 2.3 73 6.2 5.7 10.0 236.4 79.3 49.4 33 213 5.58 5.09 5.2 1 1
6 Kirk Cousins* WAS 28 QB 16 16 8-7-1 406 606 67.0 4917 25 4.1 12 2.0 80 8.1 8.0 12.1 307.3 97.2 66.1 23 190 7.52 7.45 3.7 4 4
7 Eli Manning NYG 35 QB 16 16 11-5-0 377 598 63.0 4027 26 4.3 16 2.7 75 6.7 6.4 10.7 251.7 86.0 49.3 21 142 6.28 5.95 3.4 3 6
8 Carson Palmer ARI 37 QB 15 15 6-8-1 364 597 61.0 4233 26 4.4 14 2.3 80 7.1 6.9 11.6 282.2 87.2 54.5 40 281 6.20 6.03 6.3 1 3
9 Matthew Stafford DET 28 QB 16 16 9-7-0 388 594 65.3 4327 24 4.0 10 1.7 73 7.3 7.3 11.2 270.4 93.3 66.5 37 216 6.52 6.56 5.9 8 8
10 Philip Rivers* SDG 35 QB 16 16 5-11-0 349 578 60.4 4386 33 5.7 21 3.6 59 7.6 7.1 12.6 274.1 87.9 57.5 36 188 6.84 6.37 5.9 1 1
11 Jameis Winston TAM 22 QB 16 16 9-7-0 345 567 60.8 4090 28 4.9 18 3.2 45 7.2 6.8 11.9 255.6 86.1 59.7 35 239 6.40 5.98 5.8 1 3
12 Andy Dalton* CIN 29 QB 16 16 6-9-1 364 563 64.7 4206 18 3.2 8 1.4 86 7.5 7.5 11.6 262.9 91.8 50.8 41 264 6.53 6.53 6.8 2 1
13 Derek Carr* OAK 25 QB 15 15 12-3-0 357 560 63.8 3937 28 5.0 6 1.1 75 7.0 7.5 11.0 262.5 96.7 54.6 16 79 6.70 7.20 2.8 7 7
14 Sam Bradford MIN 29 QB 15 15 7-8-0 395 552 71.6 3877 20 3.6 5 0.9 71 7.0 7.3 9.8 258.5 99.3 57.3 37 276 6.11 6.41 6.3 1 1
15 Russell Wilson SEA 28 QB 16 16 10-5-1 353 546 64.7 4219 21 3.8 11 2.0 59 7.7 7.6 12.0 263.7 92.6 56.8 41 293 6.69 6.56 7.0 4 3
16 Andrew Luck IND 27 QB 15 15 8-7-0 346 545 63.5 4240 31 5.7 13 2.4 64 7.8 7.8 12.3 282.7 96.4 65.9 41 268 6.78 6.84 7.0 4 4
17 Matt Ryan*+ ATL 31 QB 16 16 11-5-0 373 534 69.9 4944 38 7.1 7 1.3 76 9.3 10.1 13.3 309.0 117.1 79.4 37 235 8.25 9.03 6.5 1 2
18 Cam Newton CAR 27 QB 15 14 6-8-0 270 510 52.9 3509 19 3.7 14 2.7 88 6.9 6.4 13.0 233.9 75.8 48.0 36 277 5.92 5.46 6.6    
19 Brock Osweiler HOU 26 QB 15 14 8-6-0 301 510 59.0 2957 15 2.9 16 3.1 53 5.8 5.0 9.8 197.1 72.2 49.5 27 206 5.12 4.34 5.0 2 2
20 Ben Roethlisberger* PIT 34 QB 14 14 10-4-0 328 509 64.4 3819 29 5.7 13 2.6 72 7.5 7.5 11.6 272.8 95.4 61.8 17 141 6.99 6.98 3.2 2 2
21 Alex Smith* KAN 32 QB 15 15 11-4-0 328 489 67.1 3502 15 3.1 8 1.6 80 7.2 7.0 10.7 233.5 91.2 58.0 28 140 6.50 6.39 5.4 3 3
22 Trevor Siemian DEN 25 QB 14 14 8-6-0 289 486 59.5 3401 18 3.7 10 2.1 76 7.0 6.8 11.8 242.9 84.6 48.4 31 187 6.22 6.04 6.0 3 2
23 Dak Prescott* DAL 23 QB 16 16 13-3-0 311 459 67.8 3667 23 5.0 4 0.9 83 8.0 8.6 11.8 229.2 104.9 78.8 25 143 7.28 7.86 5.2 5 5
24 Marcus Mariota TEN 23 QB 15 15 8-7-0 276 451 61.2 3426 26 5.8 9 2.0 60 7.6 7.9 12.4 228.4 95.6 59.4 23 156 6.90 7.14 4.9 2 2
25 Tyrod Taylor BUF 27 QB 15 15 7-8-0 269 436 61.7 3023 17 3.9 6 1.4 84 6.9 7.1 11.2 201.5 89.7 61.4 42 192 5.92 6.07 8.8 1 1

2017

Rk   Tm Age Pos G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD
1 Tom Brady*+ NWE 40 QB 16 16 13-3-0 385 581 66.3 4577 32 5.5 8 1.4 64 7.9 8.4 11.9 286.1 102.8 70.2 35 201 7.10 7.56 5.7 2 2
2 Philip Rivers* LAC 36 QB 16 16 9-7-0 360 575 62.6 4515 28 4.9 10 1.7 75 7.9 8.0 12.5 282.2 96.0 60.6 18 120 7.41 7.60 3.0 2 2
3 Eli Manning NYG 36 QB 15 15 3-12-0 352 571 61.6 3468 19 3.3 13 2.3 77 6.1 5.7 9.9 231.2 80.4 41.7 31 189 5.45 5.11 5.1 0 1
4 Matthew Stafford DET 29 QB 16 16 9-7-0 371 565 65.7 4446 29 5.1 10 1.8 71 7.9 8.1 12.0 277.9 99.3 61.8 47 287 6.80 7.01 7.7 1 4
5 Ben Roethlisberger* PIT 35 QB 15 15 12-3-0 360 561 64.2 4251 28 5.0 14 2.5 97 7.6 7.5 11.8 283.4 93.4 62.9 21 139 7.07 6.95 3.6 3 4
6 Russell Wilson* SEA 29 QB 16 16 9-7-0 339 553 61.3 3983 34 6.1 11 2.0 74 7.2 7.5 11.7 248.9 95.4 58.1 43 322 6.14 6.45 7.2 2 2
7 Joe Flacco BAL 32 QB 16 16 9-7-0 352 549 64.1 3141 18 3.3 13 2.4 66 5.7 5.3 8.9 196.3 80.4 46.0 27 205 5.10 4.71 4.7    
8 Kirk Cousins WAS 29 QB 16 16 7-9-0 347 540 64.3 4093 27 5.0 13 2.4 74 7.6 7.5 11.8 255.8 93.9 50.5 41 342 6.46 6.38 7.1 1 4
9 Drew Brees* NOR 38 QB 16 16 11-5-0 386 536 72.0 4334 23 4.3 8 1.5 54 8.1 8.3 11.2 270.9 103.9 61.1 20 145 7.53 7.71 3.6 2 2
10 Matt Ryan ATL 32 QB 16 16 10-6-0 342 529 64.7 4095 20 3.8 12 2.3 88 7.7 7.5 12.0 255.9 91.4 64.9 24 156 7.12 6.87 4.3 2 3
11 Blake Bortles JAX 25 QB 16 16 10-6-0 315 523 60.2 3687 21 4.0 13 2.5 75 7.0 6.7 11.7 230.4 84.7 55.5 24 123 6.52 6.21 4.4 1 1
12 Derek Carr* OAK 26 QB 15 15 6-9-0 323 515 62.7 3496 22 4.3 13 2.5 87 6.8 6.5 10.8 233.1 86.4 47.2 20 101 6.35 6.07 3.7 1 1
13 Alex Smith* KAN 33 QB 15 15 9-6-0 341 505 67.5 4042 26 5.1 5 1.0 79 8.0 8.6 11.9 269.5 104.7 63.6 35 207 7.10 7.65 6.5 1 3
14 Andy Dalton CIN 30 QB 16 16 7-9-0 297 496 59.9 3320 25 5.0 12 2.4 77 6.7 6.6 11.2 207.5 86.6 42.0 39 255 5.73 5.65 7.3 3 3
15 Cam Newton CAR 28 QB 16 16 11-5-0 291 492 59.1 3302 22 4.5 16 3.3 64 6.7 6.1 11.3 206.4 80.7 49.6 35 242 5.81 5.28 6.6 1 3
16 Dak Prescott DAL 24 QB 16 16 9-7-0 308 490 62.9 3324 22 4.5 13 2.7 81 6.8 6.5 10.8 207.8 86.6 66.3 32 185 6.01 5.74 6.1 0 4
17 Case Keenum MIN 29 QB 15 14 11-3-0 325 481 67.6 3547 22 4.6 7 1.5 65 7.4 7.6 10.9 236.5 98.3 71.3 22 136 6.78 7.03 4.4 1 3
18 Jared Goff* LAR 23 QB 15 15 11-4-0 296 477 62.1 3804 28 5.9 7 1.5 94 8.0 8.5 12.9 253.6 100.5 48.4 25 172 7.24 7.72 5.0 1 1
19 DeShone Kizer CLE 21 QB 15 15 0-15-0 255 476 53.6 2894 11 2.3 22 4.6 56 6.1 4.5 11.3 192.9 60.5 26.7 38 226 5.19 3.69 7.4    
20 Jacoby Brissett IND 25 QB 16 15 4-11-0 276 469 58.8 3098 13 2.8 7 1.5 80 6.6 6.5 11.2 193.6 81.7 37.9 52 305 5.36 5.26 10.0 0 1
21 Marcus Mariota TEN 24 QB 15 15 9-6-0 281 453 62.0 3232 13 2.9 15 3.3 75 7.1 6.2 11.5 215.5 79.3 55.1 27 173 6.37 5.51 5.6 3 4
22 Jameis Winston TAM 23 QB 13 13 3-10-0 282 442 63.8 3504 19 4.3 11 2.5 70 7.9 7.7 12.4 269.5 92.2 50.3 33 207 6.94 6.70 6.9 2 2
23 Carson Wentz* PHI 25 QB 13 13 11-2-0 265 440 60.2 3296 33 7.5 7 1.6 72 7.5 8.3 12.4 253.5 101.9 74.4 28 162 6.70 7.43 6.0 1 1
24 Jay Cutler MIA 34 QB 14 14 6-8-0 266 429 62.0 2666 19 4.4 14 3.3 65 6.2 5.6 10.0 190.4 80.8 41.9 20 154 5.59 5.04 4.5 2 3
25 Tyrod Taylor BUF 28 QB 15 14 8-6-0 263 420 62.6 2799 14 3.3 4 1.0 47 6.7 6.9 10.6 186.6 89.2 56.4 46 256 5.46 5.67 9.9 1 2


What part of ATTEMPTS PER GAME are you unable to understand?

Between 2015 and 2016 he attempted 816 passes in 29 games. It amounted to 28 passes per game. 

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1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

He did the only thing he could.  

 

Play sandlot football.  

 

 

Even w/o Tay Tay the Bills under Rex in season 1 still scored over 22 ppg.  

 

 

Someone else that can pass the ball 



Once again ... nearly 12 yards per attempt over a two year span. Sorry dude, but you're flat out wrong.

Team most likely to regress in 2018: the Buffalo Bills.
Team most likely to improve: Cleveland Browns.

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

The CoT has moved to Cleveland.    

 

Please preach over there.  

Not going anywhere.

Player most likely to fall off the cliff this year: Shady McCoy.

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36 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:


He did as he was commanded to do.

Ran an offense that averaged 390 points from 2015-2016, and didn't turn the ball over in order to do it. It's a recipe for success - no matter who scores the touchdowns. You know ... since it's a team game.

 

Should be fun to watch this team without him in 2018. I'm sure we'll score a whole bunch more points and be a lot more effective without him. LMAO. Even the head coach told you this team isn't a playoff team - no where near it. But this QB took you to a 22-20 record, helped you to find a way to the playoffs and you're glad to see him leave.

I'll have a good laugh at you, all year long. Tyrod will lead the most improved team throughout the year, and the Bills will be the team that regresses the most.

Believe when I see it. Tyrod has no run game,one good receiver in Landry, and a lousy defense!  We probably will regresse some especially with all the changes on the o line, but can’t see our defense playing worse!

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30 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:

I'll have a good laugh at you, all year long. Tyrod will lead the most improved team throughout the year, and the Bills will be the team that regresses the most.

 

Gonna regress without 

 

- 125 yard panthers game 

- 166 yard bengals game 

-  56 yard saints game 

-  65 yard pats game 

- 134 yard jags game 

 

Im not sure regression is mathematically possible.         Don’t spend too much on your new Browns jersey ?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:



Player most likely to fall off the cliff this year: Shady McCoy.

 

Aka the guy who carried your friend for the last few years 

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3 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:



Once again ... nearly 12 yards per attempt over a two year span. Sorry dude, but you're flat out wrong.

Team most likely to regress in 2018: the Buffalo Bills.
Team most likely to improve: Cleveland Browns.

Not going anywhere.

Player most likely to fall off the cliff this year: Shady McCoy.

The bottom 5th in passing offense is nothing to brag about.  

 

But good effort in cherry picking stats.

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Just now, Bring it said:

Believe when I see it. Tyrod has no run game,one good receiver in Landry, and a lousy defense!  We probably will regresse some especially with all the changes on the o line, but can’t see our defense playing worse!

 

Just now, Bring it said:

Believe when I see it. Tyrod has no run game,one good receiver in Landry, and a lousy defense!  We probably will regresse some especially with all the changes on the o line, but can’t see our defense playing worse!

LMAO.


Lousy defense? LMAO, ok sure. Really. Gordon, Landry, Njoko? Tell you what, I'll put those three up against what Buffalo will put on the field. Chubb and Hyde in the backfield? Our offensive line took three steps back. 

I guess we'll see but I think you are way off the course on that one.

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4 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

Gonna regress without 

 

- 125 yard panthers game 

- 166 yard bengals game 

-  56 yard saints game 

-  65 yard pats game 

- 134 yard jags game 

 

Im not sure regression is mathematically possible.         Don’t spend too much on your new Browns jersey ?

 

 

 

Aka the guy who carried your friend for the last few years 


Talk about cherry picking ... yeah. 

94 QB rating. 12 YPA. Least turnovers. One of the most productive rushing QBs. Offense that scored 390 points a season until Dennison showed up. I don't have to pick out single games to do it; that's a composite over two years. Let me see ... which of these two is "cherry picking"? Selecting single games, or looking at a two year stretch?

Age, bud. He might have helped the team, but the Buffalo Bills picked the wrong veteran to jettison out of that backfield. Think I'm wrong? Tell me how many teams would have chomped at the bit to pick up Shady's contract at any price? NONE. NONE AT ALL. 

He's worthless right now. Worthless. Because a big contract and a slowing step and age in a running back is not an attractive look. Calendar ain't your friend.

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4 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:

Age, bud. He might have helped the team, but the Buffalo Bills picked the wrong veteran to jettison out of that backfield. Think I'm wrong? Tell me how many teams would have chomped at the bit to pick up Shady's contract at any price? NONE. NONE AT ALL. 

He's worthless right now. Worthless. Because a big contract and a slowing step and age in a running back is not an attractive look. Calendar ain't your friend.

 

...watches highlights of Shady winning the Indy game when all indications to that point were that it was going to end a tie...

 

Oh yeah, worthless.  Bum definitely has nothing left in the tank.  ?

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6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

The bottom 5th in passing offense is nothing to brag about.  

 

But good effort in cherry picking stats.

...stats don't mean jack and are easily manipulated to prove one's point or disprove another's.....so we can cut to the chase and ask the simplest of simple questions......bear in mind these questions are NOT meant to single out TT because Dennison also had PLENTY to do with it IMO......was the passing game component of this offense a viable threat to the opposition?.....if the opposition defense gave up 60%run/40% passing or 40%run/60% passing, were viable game plans drawn up again with confidence in the passing component?..if the known was the defense was to stack the box with 8+, could we come out throwing with confidence be it short, intermediate or long to soften the box load?.if down by 7 with 2:18 on the clock and three timeouts left, what was the confidence level as far as this offense being able to CONSISTENTLY run the 2 minute drill and tie this bad boy up?....if the majority answers are YES, then TT should still be here....if the majority of the answers are no, then consider in whose favor the scale is tipped against, TT or Dennison?...or it balanced with equal blame on both sides?.....bottom line is it did not work out here, the lad has moved on to a new venue and I hope he hones his skills to realize his NFL dreams, no harm, foul or hatred cited here....

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2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

.....bottom line is it did not work out here, the lad has moved on to a new venue and I hope he hones his skills to realize his NFL dreams, no harm, foul or hatred cited here....


Couldn't agree more. 

He had his chance with us, did what he could with it, got hamstrung some by the situation but that was up to him to elevate. 22-20 is what it is and you can't change that.

4 minutes ago, The Red King said:

 

...watches highlights of Shady winning the Indy game when all indications to that point were that it was going to end a tie...

 

Oh yeah, worthless.  Bum definitely has nothing left in the tank.  ?

Keep using that back view mirror.

Just keep looking backward, don't mind that the number of running backs that have had successful careers after 30 with more than 2200 rushing attempts is a party of 1 - Frank Gore. 

Calendar. Ain't your friend.

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Just now, Tyrod's friend said:

Just keep looking backward, don't mind that the number of running backs that have had successful careers after 30 with more than 2200 rushing attempts is a party of 1 - Frank Gore. 


Calendar. Ain't your friend.

 

...and by extension, Tom Brady must really be awful, because how many QBs have had real success at his age?  Poor Tom, why is he even still playing with the Patriots?  Calendar isn't his friend, after all.

 

Thanks to TT's inability and unwillingness to throw deep, Shady had to run against defenses that stacked all eleven players, a couple cheerleaders and an assistant coach in the box and still managed to get the job done.  Regardless of your views on Allen and AJ, both QBs will at least stretch the field, making it a lot easier on the running game.  Even if he loses a step, not running into a brick wall every play should allow him to play at a level at least equal to last year.

 

And rearview mirror?  Dude...ah...that Indy game was just five months ago, week 14!  Shady has only played three games since then.  Yeah, I think it's reasonable to look at that as an indicator of where he's currently at.  What's next, you're gonna tell me a MLB pitcher is showing signs of aging and losing his speed, when the guy just threw a 100 MPH fastball three pitches ago?  And if I point that out will you say "That was three whole pitches ago!  Rear view mirror man, time isn't his friend.  He's all washed up now!"?

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23 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Make him a QB.  

 

The epitaph of Tyrod 


Not directed at Shady (hey, all in good fun bud) but for any Buffalo Bills fan:

Come up with any two year run like Tyrod Taylor had from 2015 to 2016 where the team scored 379 and 399 points. Good luck with that. 

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4 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:


Not directed at Shady (hey, all in good fun bud) but for any Buffalo Bills fan:

Come up with any two year run like Tyrod Taylor had from 2015 to 2016 where the team scored 379 and 399 points. Good luck with that. 

 

 

how far did those points get them in to the post season?

 

oh that's right, they didn't make the post season in 2015/2016

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3 minutes ago, The Red King said:

 

...and by extension, Tom Brady must really be awful, because how many QBs have had real success at his age?  Poor Tom, why is he even still playing with the Patriots?  Calendar isn't his friend, after all.?



This is too easy. First, how many QBs have success at his age? Is that where you want to take this???

Not to mention, there is a little thing that is different between being a QB and being a RB. C'mon. 

Finally .. unwillingness to throw deep???

Are you out of fool mind?


Between 2015 and 16 the guy was one of the best deep balls in the NFL. Go back to that highlight reel from the OP. You stop throwing deep when you stop having wide receivers that get open deep. 

And the Indy game? The last rattle, friend.

It's a party of one and nothing any Bills fan is going to day that really makes that different. Number of successful running backs that pass the age of 30 with more than 2300 attempts. One. Calendar ain't your friend and ultimately, if Shady McCoy had any value this front office (that jettisoned every other expensive veteran on the squat) would have done the same with him. 

You might not like it, but I'm just speaking the truth. Here's what I got ... we didn't pay anything to get our QB for the last three years. We got at least one PB performance out of him. We never paid him jack for his work here. We got a 3rd rounder out of him on the way out. And for McCoy, we gave up what wound up to be nothing in the NFL in Kiko. 

I'm good with all that.

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Calendar will have less to do with any slowdown this year in Shady, more likely the loss of Wood, Incognito and an ever shaky right side.

On the Browns; Gordon is far from reliable at this point, offensive line needs improvement to have a consistent ground game and where is the defense?

 

Taylor will be running for his life! Let alone if they are stupid enough to start Mayfield(they are). 

 

It it will be sandlot ball at its best. Tyrod will dazzle at times and the dawgs will suck it up. But, that is all!

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5 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

 

how far did those points get them in to the post season?

 

oh that's right, they didn't make the post season in 2015/2016


Offense was 12th and then 10th in the NFL. Unfortunately the defense was at best middle of the pack.

Taylor only plays offense. But the defense surely looked a whole lot better than the statistics showed, since the team didn't have nearly the turnovers they would have with any other QB in the NFL. 

I'm sorry but that's the fact. Turnovers = points, and Taylor's effectiveness as a QB plus his lack of turnovers made him a pretty good QB in those two years. It certainly wasn't Shady McCoy's staggering 900 yards of rushing in 2015, that's for damn sure.

But I can' t argue. The record was what the record was. We'll see how that record looks this year without him. As a Bills fan I'm hoping we do a whole lot better but as I listen to the head coach, I think that's a dream.

7 minutes ago, Bring it said:

Calendar will have less to do with any slowdown this year in Shady, more likely the loss of Wood, Incognito and an ever shaky right side.


yeah, I'm sure that will be the excuse. It was all on the offensive line. Where have I heard that before? 

This team isn't good and the best player we drafted isn't here to help in 2018, and because we drafted him we have even less help for next year. Again, I'll put what the Browns will have on the field, in the offensive line, at WR/TE, at RB, and in their defense, against what the Bills will put on the field. 

Add a QB that isn't a turnover machine. We disagree and I'll leave it at that. 
Cheers.

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1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said:


Offense was 12th and then 10th in the NFL. Unfortunately the defense was at best middle of the pack.

Taylor only plays offense. But the defense surely looked a whole lot better than the statistics showed, since the team didn't have nearly the turnovers they would have with any other QB in the NFL. 

I'm sorry but that's the fact. Turnovers = points, and Taylor's effectiveness as a QB plus his lack of turnovers made him a pretty good QB in those two years. It certainly wasn't Shady McCoy's staggering 900 yards of rushing in 2015, that's for damn sure.

But I can' t argue. The record was what the record was. We'll see how that record looks this year without him. As a Bills fan I'm hoping we do a whole lot better but as I liertsten to the head coach, I think that's a dream.

“Pretty good” is right. I can agree with you there. He certainly took care of the ball! He certainly doesn’t lose many games for you. Doesn’t make the big throws to win many either. Some but not enough!

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3 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:


Offense was 12th and then 10th in the NFL. Unfortunately the defense was at best middle of the pack.

Taylor only plays offense. But the defense surely looked a whole lot better than the statistics showed, since the team didn't have nearly the turnovers they would have with any other QB in the NFL. 

I'm sorry but that's the fact. Turnovers = points, and Taylor's effectiveness as a QB plus his lack of turnovers made him a pretty good QB in those two years. It certainly wasn't Shady McCoy's staggering 900 yards of rushing in 2015, that's for damn sure.

But I can' t argue. The record was what the record was. We'll see how that record looks this year without him. As a Bills fan I'm hoping we do a whole lot better but as I listen to the head coach, I think that's a dream.

 

excuses, excuses

 

then the points are irrelevant and prove little to nothing. so who was to blame for the offense in their first playoff appearance in 18 years? seems a taylor led offense could only muster up 3 points??

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3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

excuses, excuses

 

then the points are irrelevant and prove little to nothing. so who was to blame for the offense in their first playoff appearance in 18 years? seems a taylor led offense could only muster up 3 points??


I'm not here to make excuses. But so I get this right ... it's a Taylor-led offense when he's playing with an injury and Shady McCoy is getting 50 yards on 18 carries (other than his single play), but the ONLY reason we were able to have a damned good offense for 2015 and 2016 is because McCoy got 900 yards in 2015 and was arguably the third best running back in the AFCE in 2016.

I just want to make sure I get this all right in my mind.

thanks.

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12 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:


Offense was 12th and then 10th in the NFL. Unfortunately the defense was at best middle of the pack.

Taylor only plays offense. But the defense surely looked a whole lot better than the statistics showed, since the team didn't have nearly the turnovers they would have with any other QB in the NFL. 

I'm sorry but that's the fact. Turnovers = points, and Taylor's effectiveness as a QB plus his lack of turnovers made him a pretty good QB in those two years. It certainly wasn't Shady McCoy's staggering 900 yards of rushing in 2015, that's for damn sure.

But I can' t argue. The record was what the record was. We'll see how that record looks this year without him. As a Bills fan I'm hoping we do a whole lot better but as I listen to the head coach, I think that's a dream.


yeah, I'm sure that will be the excuse. It was all on the offensive line. Where have I heard that before? 

This team isn't good and the best player we drafted isn't here to help in 2018, and because we drafted him we have even less help for next year. Again, I'll put what the Browns will have on the field, in the offensive line, at WR/TE, at RB, and in their defense, against what the Bills will put on the field. 

Add a QB that isn't a turnover machine. We disagree and I'll leave it at that. 
Cheers.

Cheers!

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15 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

When the trade happened I thought we had absolutely FLEECED the Browns: getting a 3rd for Taylor and his insufferable fans. 

 

Turns out it was only a good deal.

 

I don't think he understands that you just insulted him :lol:

 

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