Mij yllek Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2018-nfl-draft-forget-the-scouts-these-are-the-top-19-quarterbacks-available/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 On his 2017 list, Peterman was #4 and Chad Kelly was #5. Enough said. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 The Browns should take Mayfield #1 overall. Too many of these advanced analytics say he's going to be a really good pro. I also hope we figure out how to move up to #2 overall so he doesn't wind up on the Jets. Him going there and us winding up with Josh Allen is my nightmare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Freak Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 He has Luke Falk rated ahead of Rosen, Allen, Jackson & Rudolph. What's he smokin' ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilton Bills Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Cocaine is a hell of a drug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Wilton Bills said: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 This is the problem with today's big data mentality and the thought that we can predict anything with a simple model. Having taken my share of stats courses and someone who believes heavily (and relies on) in quantitative methods, I never look at the method and stats (or as dweebs like Jeremy White refer to them, to try to make themselves appear smart...analytics). It's simple for me.... the massive amounts of measures of individuals do nothing to predict team wins. And when guys like try to do something, get garbage results, and then keep publishing them, it's tie to ignore. I assume since he said he's trying to find a "correlation" that he's using a multiple regression model. The reason he has no significant results, and never will, is he's using college data that does not take into account the critical other variables that will determine the QB's success... coaching, quality of players around him, system, intelligence, hardwork, etc.... many qualitative points he's not measuring, and dweebs like Schopp poo poo, especially anything related to human and sports psychology (like momentum isn't a thing.. it is even if they haven't figured out how to measure it). So it's bunk, never read it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 See who is # 5. My man riley Ferguson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Sam's mom is a little goofy. A lot of these Qbs have family tagging along to get some of the limelight. Its kind of awkward to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, zonabb said: This is the problem with today's big data mentality and the thought that we can predict anything with a simple model. Having taken my share of stats courses and someone who believes heavily (and relies on) in quantitative methods, I never look at the method and stats (or as dweebs like Jeremy White refer to them, to try to make themselves appear smart...analytics). It's simple for me.... the massive amounts of measures of individuals do nothing to predict team wins. And when guys like try to do something, get garbage results, and then keep publishing them, it's tie to ignore. I assume since he said he's trying to find a "correlation" that he's using a multiple regression model. The reason he has no significant results, and never will, is he's using college data that does not take into account the critical other variables that will determine the QB's success... coaching, quality of players around him, system, intelligence, hardwork, etc.... many qualitative points he's not measuring, and dweebs like Schopp poo poo, especially anything related to human and sports psychology (like momentum isn't a thing.. it is even if they haven't figured out how to measure it). So it's bunk, never read it again! Mayfield and Allen will provide interesting data points for the advanced statistics crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 You can't draft a QB based on stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: You can't draft a QB based on stats. totally 100 percent agree with this statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: The Browns should take Mayfield #1 overall. Too many of these advanced analytics say he's going to be a really good pro. I also hope we figure out how to move up to #2 overall so he doesn't wind up on the Jets. Him going there and us winding up with Josh Allen is my nightmare. I would rather have Mayfield because he is my #1 QB. Allen is my number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, formerlyofCtown said: I would rather have Mayfield because he is my #1 QB. Allen is my number 2. I wouldn't draft Josh Allen before the 4th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Wilton Bills said: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. never tried it. Pm me 34 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: totally 100 percent agree with this statement whats the + - on this %. degree of error 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I wouldn't draft Josh Allen before the 4th round. uh oh. some one is going to though. maybe by the 4th pick even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Mij yllek said: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2018-nfl-draft-forget-the-scouts-these-are-the-top-19-quarterbacks-available/ Most important quote: I think the comparisons will be more accurate when it comes to the number of QBs taken in the first round, not on how their careers turn out. To me, that's more a reflection of the desperation to find a QB than the QBs available to be taken. 1 hour ago, Wilton Bills said: Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Yes and testing should be done before you posters post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 How is this even publishable? He basically discredits his own "analysis." What was the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 44 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: How is this even publishable? He basically discredits his own "analysis." What was the point? It is definitely a head scratcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 8 hours ago, jrober38 said: I wouldn't draft Josh Allen before the 4th round. Me and most of the NFL disagree with you but I have read that some teams feel the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Bills Freak said: He has Luke Falk rated ahead of Rosen, Allen, Jackson & Rudolph. What's he smokin' ? read the last paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 11 hours ago, Mij yllek said: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2018-nfl-draft-forget-the-scouts-these-are-the-top-19-quarterbacks-available/ I think this is a case where the analytics may need to be adjusted 11 hours ago, sullim4 said: On his 2017 list, Peterman was #4 and Chad Kelly was #5. Enough said. Nonononono not enough. His 2nd highest score before this year was Johnny Manziel. That needs to be said. And who the heck is Cooper Rush, his #3? "made me look", UDFA for the Cowboys, 1-of-2 passing for 2 yards and had 2 rushes for 13 yards in his NFL debut . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Freak Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 12 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: read the last paragraph. OOPS, I hate it when people do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Shocking... -Absolutely NO LOVE for TCU's Kenny Hill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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