26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 4-24: Trent Dilfer Talks NFL Draft QBs on WGR (11:17) Excellent interview with Dilfer with good conversation regarding Darnold and Rosen in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 slightly ... less enthusiastic about daboll. Within the context of the entire conversation, you'd almost place Dilfer's considered opinion of Daboll as closer to the "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about" category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: slightly ... less enthusiastic about daboll. Within the context of the entire conversation, you'd almost place Dilfer's considered opinion of Daboll as closer to the "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about" category. Yeah, sounds like he doesn't know how Daboll would handle Rosen. Could be a good match or a really really bad match. If Daboll needs a guy to "grow the offense with him," as Trent says, then Darnold, Mayfield, and Rudolph seem like the best first round fits. 20 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: Edited April 24, 2018 by LeGOATski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: Yeah, sounds like he doesn't know how Daboll would handle Rosen. Could be a good match or a really really bad match. If Daboll needs a guy to "grow the offense with him," as Trent says, then Darnold, Mayfield, and Rudolph seem like the best first round fits. But if Rosen is, as reported, the kind of guy who asks questions, doesn't accept status quo, and wants to build upon the playbook wouldn't that be a great match? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) every time I hear how Lamar Jackson would need an offense built around him I think of how the Bills have a blank slate on offense, with almost no penciled in starters There is no "system" yet, so there's nothing to disrupt Edited April 24, 2018 by TheFunPolice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 we don't have anyone who can develop a QB. they better go for the sure thing. if they draft a "project QB" and think they will get better then they are dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, kdiggz said: we don't have anyone who can develop a QB. they better go for the sure thing. if they draft a "project QB" and think they will get better then they are dumb It was pretty tough to hear Dilfer express skepticism in the Bills' ability to develop a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, eball said: But if Rosen is, as reported, the kind of guy who asks questions, doesn't accept status quo, and wants to build upon the playbook wouldn't that be a great match? Maybe. That's where the uncertainty lies. If the coach and QB don't mesh well, it'll be a rocky road. IMO, take the best QB and if he doesn't work well with your OC, then find a new OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It was pretty tough to hear Dilfer express skepticism in the Bills' ability to develop a QB. The one area where I disagree with Dilfer is about the coaching environment. I say that because I do think the Bills' coaching situation is going to be stable for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't say that about the Jets at all. Or the Browns or Broncos. Dilfer's assessment is based on who is currently in these places, and he singles out Jeremy Bates in NY. Will Bates be in NY next year if the Jets have a losing record in 2018? I doubt it, unless he's promoted to HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, dave mcbride said: The one area where I disagree with Dilfer is about the coaching environment. I say that because I do think the Bills' coaching situation is going to be stable for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't say that about the Jets at all. Or the Browns or Broncos. Dilfer's assessment is based on who is currently in these places, and he singles out Jeremy Bates in NY. Will Bates be in NY next year if the Jets have a losing record in 2018? I doubt it, unless he's promoted to HC. Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles are tied together with both receiving recent extensions. Hard to see them getting fired after this year after taking a rookie QB at #3. Guess we'll see though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles are tied together with both receiving recent extensions. Hard to see them getting fired after this year after taking a rookie QB at #3. Guess we'll see though. If they go 5-11, things will change. Someone will be fired, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, dave mcbride said: If they go 5-11, things will change. Someone will be fired, that's for sure. I'm no so sure. No one expects them to contend this season. They have quite a bit of work to do and they have sacrificed quite a bit to get to #3 by giving up three 2nd round picks. I think that buys them some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles are tied together with both receiving recent extensions. Hard to see them getting fired after this year after taking a rookie QB at #3. Guess we'll see though. Todd Bowles is hanging by a thread, make no mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: Todd Bowles is hanging by a thread, make no mistake. Yup, if they go 5-11, that'll be three straight years with that record. No way he survives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: Todd Bowles is hanging by a thread, make no mistake. I think he did a nice job last year. Many thought the NYJ would be winless heading into 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I think he did a nice job last year. Many thought the NYJ would be winless heading into 2017. He is the worst sideline coach in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: He is the worst sideline coach in the NFL. He's on par with many others and please don't tell me you're impressed with McDermott's in game decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He's on par with many others and please don't tell me you're impressed with McDermott's in game decision making. No one - NO ONE - is as clueless under "live fire" as Todd Bowles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: every time I hear how Lamar Jackson would need an offense built around him I think of how the Bills have a blank slate on offense, with almost no penciled in starters There is no "system" yet, so there's nothing to disrupt When I hear that I think of Shanny making an offense that RGIII excelled in as a rookie yet once he got back from injury he couldn't produce again. I'm sorry but if Lamar is another Vick, RG III or Watson insert your favorite RPO QB here we're in trouble as those offenses eventually fail as their QB ends up injured and then when you try to protect them in the pocket they fail because they can't play a traditional offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, The Jokeman said: When I hear that I think of Shanny making an offense that RGIII excelled in as a rookie yet once he got back from injury he couldn't produce again. I'm sorry but if Lamar is another Vick, RG III or Watson insert your favorite RPO QB here we're in trouble as those offenses eventually fail as their QB ends up injured and then when you try to protect them in the pocket they fail because they can't play a traditional offense. I'm not advocating it, but every time I hear someone on NFL Radio or WGR talk about how you would have to totally build an offense around Jackson I just get this strange feeling, given the fact that the Bills basically have no offense in place right now. It's a blank slate at most positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: When I hear that I think of Shanny making an offense that RGIII excelled in as a rookie yet once he got back from injury he couldn't produce again. I'm sorry but if Lamar is another Vick, RG III or Watson insert your favorite RPO QB here we're in trouble as those offenses eventually fail as their QB ends up injured and then when you try to protect them in the pocket they fail because they can't play a traditional offense. Wentz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 my final QB "big 6" board: Rosen Mayfield Darnold Rudolph Jackson Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: my final QB "big 6" board: Rosen Mayfield Darnold Rudolph Jackson Allen 362154 . . . Jackson is the only one where we have agreement. Maybe you should move him to 6 just for giggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It was pretty tough to hear Dilfer express skepticism in the Bills' ability to develop a QB. Funny how you give it more credence when it comes from a TV talking head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GG said: Funny how you give it more credence when it comes from a TV talking head. Weak point. All talking heads are not equal. I respect his opinion because of who he is, but ultimately he doesn't know. Edited April 24, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Weak point. All talking heads are not equal. I respect his opinion because of who he is, but ultimately he doesn't know. Doesn't matter whether the taking heads are equal or not. You dismiss opinions here, yet accept the same opinion from a talking head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GG said: Doesn't matter whether the taking heads are equal or not. You dismiss opinions here, yet accept the same opinion from a talking head. I dismiss opinions I disagree with regardless of the source if I don't find them plausible or they don't make sense. Edited April 24, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It was pretty tough to hear Dilfer express skepticism in the Bills' ability to develop a QB. This concern has been expressed many time on TBD. We need to hire a qb guru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It was pretty tough to hear Dilfer express skepticism in the Bills' ability to develop a QB. Thats because the Bills haven’t been developed a good QB for like 45 years Kelly doesn’t count because he was developed in the USFL Edited April 24, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I dismiss opinions I disagree with regardless of the source if I don't find them plausible or they don't make sense. Except in this case it was the same opinion expressed in two different threads, yet you dismissed one and agreed with the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: This concern has been expressed many time on TBD. We need to hire a qb guru. They have Culley and Daboll who'll have to make it happen because I can't see any changes to McDermott's staff coming anytime soon. Since it seems that drafting a QB has been the plan for quite some time, they must be comfortable with these guys. 1 minute ago, GG said: Except in this case it was the same opinion expressed in two different threads, yet you dismissed one and agreed with the other. No. All I said that is that Culley is here as the QB coach and I don't see changes coming to the staff. Edited April 24, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It was pretty tough to hear Dilfer express skepticism in the Bills' ability to develop a QB. Why? everyone and their mother knows they're historically bad at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They have Culley and Daboll who'll have to make it happen because I can't see any changes to McDermott's staff coming anytime soon. Since it seems that drafting a QB has been the plan for quite some time, they must be comfortable with these guys. No. All I said that is that Culley is here as the QB coach and I don't see changes coming to the staff. So suddenly you're not as concerned with Culley and Dabol developing a QB, despite never having done so in the past? Never mind that Dabol will need to devote more time to the offense and not just the QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Why? everyone and their mother knows they're historically bad at it. I took "tough to hear" as meaning "regrettable, but likely true." One has to hope Dabol and Culley are legit, though there isn't a lot to foster optimism. Edited April 24, 2018 by Dr. Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, GG said: So suddenly you're not as concerned with Culley and Dabol developing a QB, despite never having done so in the past? Never mind that Dabol will need to devote more time to the offense and not just the QB I don't know whether they can or not as neither has ever had the opportunity at the NFL level. It's not my job to be concerned or not. You're propagating some false argument here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, kdiggz said: we don't have anyone who can develop a QB. they better go for the sure thing. if they draft a "project QB" and think they will get better then they are dumb Sure thing? Which one is that? -The short gimmick offense guy? -the twice concussed bratty statue guy? -the not so strong armed turnover machine guy? -or the inaccurate incompletion machine guy? yes a bit of hyperbole... but there is no sure thing in the draft. See Andrew luck draft... that was as close to a sure thing as we have seen in a very long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I don't know whether they can or not as neither has ever had the opportunity at the NFL level. It's not my job to be concerned or not. You're propagating some false argument here. But it's clearly your job to mock posters who do express the concern that the biggest investment the franchise is going to make will fall under the care of guys who have never done this job before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It was pretty tough to hear Dilfer express skepticism in the Bills' ability to develop a QB. It may be telling. Does anyone here love Dabols resume? He’s been the first real head scratching hire for me, and he has the biggest mess to tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, GG said: But it's clearly your job to mock posters who do express the concern that the biggest investment the franchise is going to make will fall under the care of guys who have never done this job before. Clearly you are feeling some kind of butt hurt when I did no such thing because all I pointed out was that there would be no changes to the coaching staff. Sorry you feel aggrieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Why? everyone and their mother knows they're historically bad at it. Any pronounced whiffs or were they given turds to work with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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