Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: In all seriousness would anyone here have an issue with the Bills pulling the trigger now and making the jump to 5 without knowing who will be there? I'll hang up and listen. Yes. Yes, I would have an issue with that. Depends of course somewhat on what they have to give up to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Awwufelloff said: Yes I would you’re guarenting one of the top 5 qbs I'm all about it. You're basically guaranteeing yourself either Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield at that point... It seems to be a no brainier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, horned dogs said: I was criticized for suggesting this earlier, some people seem to believe, we will get a call before they pull the trigger on any deal because we have so much more capital that anyone else. Teams will do their due diligence and get the best deal. That would include talking with the Bills. If the Bills don't bite, I'd have to believe they feel they can get a better pick than 5. Otherwise they get it done. CLE isn't taking two QBs and the Giants aren't going QB. If the Bills like Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield they'd take the deal. One of them will be available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 This also creates competition with the Giants, who are certainly trying to sell 2. A good thing all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: 12/53/65 should about cover it. more like 12/ 22/ 53 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, mannc said: This also creates competition with the Giants, who are certainly trying to sell 2. A good thing all around. It could spur them on to at least make a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: People are throwing around "HOF" with Nelson and Barkley. Bradley Chubb is also ridiculously appealing. If either player is available, I don't see how you pass on that and move down. If we were set at QB and a position in need for us due to the HC's defense namely MLB was not there those names would have tremendous appeal even if a small move up was required never mind getting their man in the initial draft slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: I'm all about it. You're basically guaranteeing yourself either Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield at that point... It seems to be a no brainier. It’s the perfect spot. 2 is going to cost too much. We still need to have a team next year. We need LB and OL so bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Teams will do their due diligence and get the best deal. That would include talking with the Bills. If the Bills don't bite, I'd have to believe they feel they can get a better pick than 5. Otherwise they get it done. CLE isn't taking two QBs and the Giants aren't going QB. If the Bills like Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield they'd take the deal. One of them will be available. Are you confident that someone else won't jump up to 5 or 6 ahead of us? I mean you sound like you think Denver or Indy won't accept a deal without checking in with us. I'm just worried people think we're going to 2(and it doesn't happen) and something gets done at 5 to screw us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes. Yes, I would have an issue with that. Depends of course somewhat on what they have to give up to get there. I thought the same thing for a bit until the last month and a half. I'm all for giving up a lot to get a QB. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2019/ We will have all our dead money off the books, 40 players on the roster with 63 million in cap space. That's without considering the possibility of Hughes and Shady being released. Their dead cap hits aren't bad compared to the savings. Edited April 19, 2018 by Captain Murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, kdiggz said: also, for those in the "we need to get higher to get OUR QB" camp, this just made the value of 2 and 4 cheaper. if you tell the Giants that the Broncos are willing to do the trade for 12 and 22 straight up then it doesn't really make much sense to trade 12, 22, 53, 56, 65, next year's 1st to get only a few picks higher if you are happy with the talent that will be available at 5 This is exactly right.....Now let's just hope there are more than two guys the Bills Like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny3410 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: I thought the same thing for a bit until the last month and a half. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2019/ We will have all our dead money off the books, 40 players on the roster with 63 million in cap space. That's without considering the posibility of Hughes and Shady being released. Their dead cap hits aren't bad compared to the savings. Please do not forget Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said: more like 12/ 22/ 53 To five? No F'n way. And if so, so long, I'll wait to trade with Indy or TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: This is the deal Bills should make. If we can't get to 2 before next Thursday, 5 is the perfect spot to be in. Why make a deal now when in theory the four "big" names could be off the board by pick 5? Elway will run the auction right up until the Commish announces Denver is on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I'm pretty sure everyone is WILLING to trade. The real issue is- what is the PRICE- Elways words mean nothing without knowing the ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: Why make a deal now when in theory the four "big" names could be off the board by pick 5? Elway will run the auction right up until the Commish announces Denver is on the clock. The Bills would have a pretty strong indication that the picks at 1, 2 , or 4 will not be dealt if they were to make a move to 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, kdiggz said: also, for those in the "we need to get higher to get OUR QB" camp, this just made the value of 2 and 4 cheaper. if you tell the Giants that the Broncos are willing to do the trade for 12 and 22 straight up then it doesn't really make much sense to trade 12, 22, 53, 56, 65, next year's 1st to get only a few picks higher if you are happy with the talent that will be available at 5 Actually, 2 & 4 just got more expensive as teams such as the Cards in theory don't have the luxury to play the waiting game until picks 6-10 if pick 5 is sold to a team that is obviously making a move up to get a QB. This means any other QB hungry team such as Miami, Pittsburgh, or New England can jump the new owner of number 5. As said before the auction is not done until the Commish goes to the podium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, NickelCity said: This is going to be a long seven days. Totally agree. But, a long 9 days, actually. The 1st round of the draft on the 26th, and then the NHL draft lottery on the evening of the 28th... Can you even imagine if the Bills get one of the top QBs AND the Sabres win the draft lottery (Dahlin sweepstakes)?! I would be beyond happy. I can't even put it into words... lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, kdiggz said: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS i'd rather trade here than 2. if their choices at 2 are Darnold or Allen i'd rather they sit back and keep their picks and choose between Allen or Rosen at 5. there's no way Darnold is worth all of those extra picks over those 2 guys You have to factor in the possibility of Miami or Arizona trading up into #2 or #4 as well... Assuming that Cleveland does what most are predicting (Darnold @ #1) there may not be a QB left at #5 or #6... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Smart play by Elway. He knows the value of #5 drops if/when the Giants deal their pick and at least 3 QBs are off the board before he picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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