Putin Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 5 hours ago, PIZ said: BPA at the positions of need. Besides a kicker every position is a need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To me this says the Buffalo Bills will not select Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph at #12. If they can't get up for one of the top 4 they are going to go BPA at #12 and it won't be a Quarterback. I would be very surprised if the Bills would trade up for "one of the top 4". It would be a mistake if they did IMO. I'm not opposed to the idea of trading up for a QB, not at all - but the "top 4" QB are so different it would be farcical to think the Bills would have the same value on each of them. 1 or at most 2 guys, if the Bills have a top grade on him and he falls to a position where they can make a trade (and they know where those are) they will go up. I like Lamar Jackson but I don't see him as a fit for what the Bills seem to be trying to do at QB. I actually really like the idea of San Diego - er, I mean LA - for Jackson. I don't know if they would, since they have other needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFL Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: To me this says the Buffalo Bills will not select Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph at #12. If they can't get up for one of the top 4 they are going to go BPA at #12 and it won't be a Quarterback. Respectfully......Because the mocksters know more than the GM’s and their staff? Personally I hope they get Jackson at #12 and keep all our picks....but we all have our opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 We reached to fill a need with EJ. How well did that work out? BPA every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: I'm even a bit removed from BPA at positions of need...I would say it's BPA at the premium positions; that is to say that you always draft a franchise QB if you don't have one (or if you have any doubt about his contract status or health). If you're convinced that you already have your franchise QB in the fold, and are comfortable with the depth behind him, then you go BPA at pass rusher, CB, WR, and OT (in that order). That's how I'd approach days 1 and 2...on day 3, I'm probably going straight BPA (save for specialists) I know every team (GM) does it a little different but your example is spot on. I think some people believe an NFL Draft Board is list of 256 players in a row. Belichick was just on NFL Network and he even hinted that the board is made up by position and then ranked. Here is an example of a NFL Draft Board the way I see a team starting to put one together. This example shows that this team has 40 players ranked in the 1st round. The 1st round is broken up in levels as you can tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Reaching is taking a player higher than you have him graded. Like, if they have Jackson rated as a late first/early second round prospect, but they trade up to 7 to grab him. BQBA Right. So if you have a QB rated as a first rounder, and you have to give up 2 ones, 2 twos and three to get him, didn't you just spend 5 picks on a player rated as worth just one first round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Mojo44 said: Try two hours before the draft! Try even after the draft. Can see it now, Buffalo gets shut out on moving up, loses out on the "big name" QBs and try to sell us on... "Well, Mike White was the #1 QB on our board through the entire process" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Right. So if you have a QB rated as a first rounder, and you have to give up 2 ones, 2 twos and three to get him, didn't you just spend 5 picks on a player rated as worth just one first round pick? No, you traded multiple picks, each with a standard value, who's sum is equal to the value of the higher pick you traded for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 55 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: 3rd rd grade on Tre White. Smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: 3rd rd grade on Tre White. Smart. Like I said, this is a google search I used for an example. But wouldn't it be cool to see old draft boards from all 32 teams and look for things like that. I'm sure (using a CB position) certain team that play man to man or zone would have players ranked differently on their boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: "Well, Mike White was the #1 QB on our board through the entire process" "They were the target all along" "We couldn't believe he was available where we took him". "We were unison that this was the right pick for the Buffalo Bills". Standard draft coachspeak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 For all the folks who are dismayed about all the holes, R E L A X. “And for the most part we don’t have many glaring holes,” Beane said. “We do have a couple, but I don’t feel like we’re entering the draft with five starting positions that I’ve got to find in this draft.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Derby Dan said: really so you miss tyrod A trade is in the works with the Giants. We will take Allen. The only thing I would dislike worse than Jackson or Rudolph at 12 would be giving up extra picks for Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 8 hours ago, PIZ said: BPA at the positions of need. Isn't that just another way of saying "reach"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Fadingpain said: “And for the most part we don’t have many glaring holes,” Beane said. “We do have a couple, but I don’t feel like we’re entering the draft with five starting positions that I’ve got to find in this draft.” "So don't worry when I give up 5-6 picks in this draft and next year's draft to move up and get our franchise QB" - What Beane is Thinking While Saying this Edited April 13, 2018 by sven233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Fadingpain said: “And for the most part we don’t have many glaring holes,” Beane said. “We do have a couple, but I don’t feel like we’re entering the draft with five starting positions that I’ve got to find in this draft.” Convincing himself ?? He has quite a few positions that need an immediate upgrade.as we've discussed ad nauseum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Derby Dan said: I feel bad for you. Not sure it will happen but that is the buzz at obd That's fine. The buzz around here is you are about as credible as you last user names. And don't deny. That's what you did last time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Whatever he says 2 weeks before the draft is a lie. I hope he is not delusional enough to see that we do, in fact, need upgrades now to compete this year. I don't mind a trade up but please no B.S. about not having huge holes in the top 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Whatever he says 2 weeks before the draft is a lie. I just hope you're right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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