KOKBILLS Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 It's a good point because Jackson and Taylor are the same person...And the Draft has already happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 I'll give props to OP for at least getting "should have" correct in the title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 hahahaha, guys! thanks for your reactions, in reality if you are following the TSW Mock draft thread, it was just a way (Thanks Virgil! it worked...) to summon @MJ A Bobby (Lions fake owner) to show up and make his pick, right ahead of me. Someone also suggested, for that purpose, me starting a thread re: ¨I think that trading up to get a QB, is a bad idea...¨ and so....have fun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'll give props to OP for at least getting "should have" correct in the title. Ha! I was going to say the best thing about this thread is the title wasn’t “We should OF kept Tyrod”. It just feels like a post that would include that lazy oops. I’ll just look past the stray period.....and the assumption that we will just take Jackson, like it’s a foregone conclusion. What are the odds we even draft at 12? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) Why? 18 million savings + the FIRST pick in the 3rd round for a mediocre QB vs 5 million salary for a similarly mediocre QB seems like a no brainer to do what the Bills did ade him Edited April 9, 2018 by aceman_16 Speeeling 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Tyrod is a decent QB at best, and I think we've seen his best. Getting a third round pick for him was highway robbery - almost on par with getting Shady for Kiko and getting Jerry Hughes for Kelvin Sheppard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Why were there people in here impressed by an AJ McCarron highlight video??? I'll show you an impressive Mark Sanchez and EJ Manuel highlight video. We are better than this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 TT is a quarterback for a team that needs consistancy more then quality. Buffallo used to be such a team, but outgrew him, Cleveland is such a team, making the trade good for both teams. By the time the Browns outgrow him, their rookie should be ready to take over. And you can't overlook the draft pick and cap relief we got in the trade as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, HOUSE said: We should have Kept, Ryan Fitzpatrick, EJ Manual, Cardale Jones, Jeff Tuel and even Matt Cassel. All of them are making the Bills look bad.... ...bet the farm...ALL will be Canton bound some day....I think it is a province in China........ Edited April 7, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 44 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Tyrod is a decent QB at best, and I think we've seen his best. Getting a third round pick for him was highway robbery - almost on par with getting Shady for Kiko and getting Jerry Hughes for Kelvin Sheppard. Not just a 3rd. The first pick of the 3rd. That's something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: If that's really true, then this team is really in trouble. There was an article just the other days showing that in drafts with over 5 QB's taken in first round, 33% turned out to be franchise QB's, 38% were busts or close to it. so if you only have a 1 in 3 shot at finding the right guy, to be fired over making the wrong choice is crazy. I truly believe TP doesn't like constant change, so the front office will stick around as long as he sees overall improvement in the roster. If every position on the team is improved except stil ldon't have the QB right, will be given more chances to figure it out. I think his job depends on it too. If he trades up and the guy doesn't pan out, I think many (including myself) would be more forgiving than if he sat on his hands, did nothing (or took a flyer later in a QB) and the QBs he didn't trade up for wound up being really good. That's what ultimately killed Whaley. Not going for broke on a QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 What we need is a guy who can throw 20 incompletions in a wildcard game. To say he’s better than raw Jackson seems like a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 42 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: I think his job depends on it too. If he trades up and the guy doesn't pan out, I think many (including myself) would be more forgiving than if he sat on his hands, did nothing (or took a flyer later in a QB) and the QBs he didn't trade up for wound up being really good. That's what ultimately killed Whaley. Not going for broke on a QB. Who should Whaley have traded up for? remember also hindsight is 20/20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Why keep Tyrod? I agree with the FO and Coaching Staff to try and do better. The Bills have tried to take their own or other teams backups and make them starters for 10 of the past 11 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, KingRex said: Who should Whaley have traded up for? remember also hindsight is 20/20. I think he could have matched or beaten the offer for Goff that STL proposed, although it was quite a bit. Passed on Carr also. There weren't a lot of good QBs when he was drafting, so you're right on that. Must have just been all his other bad decisions lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 At least the OP used "should have" instead of the preferred "should of". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 23 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Why keep Tyrod? I agree with the FO and Coaching Staff to try and do better. The Bills have tried to take their own or other teams backups and make them starters for 10 of the past 11 years. The answer to this question is you keep a player if he delivers the goods and you have no replacement that is better. Preferably, your team actually is in a position to generally approach player decisions not from the standpoint of why should we keep a player, but instead WHICH of the many options for players do we choose to invest in! As far as TT, to me it all starts with the FACT he PROVED himself capable of being THE QB to end the 17 year playoff drought! Even better from the perspective of judging him as a QB, he QB'ed the team despite the somewhat bizarre lack of faith McD showed in him (yes it was reasonable to doubt that a non-pocket passer could lead the team to an SB berth, the football stupid judgment the Bills braintrust made was that an NFL concensus 5th round drafted rookie QB could lead the team to an SB- this would simply be unprecedented (even Tom Brady, arguably the best QB ever needed to sit for a year and by his own testimony needed tons of help from seasoned vets before he was ready to lead his team as QB, McD made what looks like a real football stupid judgment that somehow this NFL consensus 5th round rookie talent was going to achieve a level of performance exceeding things even Tom Brady did). TT on the other hand pretty clearly seems to have limitations in his ability to be the dropback passer needed to be capable of even getting a berth into the SB (much less win it). However, a team not only needs to walk before they run and quite frankly after 17 years of missing the playoffs, the Bills needed to simply crawl before we walked. Is TT capable of being the QB we need to go deep in the playoffs? Almost certainly not! However, the immediate mission last year was "merely" to break the 17 year playoff drought. As George Bush would say, Mission Accomplished with TT playing a prominent role. In fact, the Bills could not have accomplished making the playoffs without him (if you disagree then understand you are advocating that Nate Peterman could have led us to the playoffs if only McD had stuck with him and started him instead off TT after Nate's 5 INT game. This reality being acknowledged (which some alleged Bills fans for some reason refuse to do}, the question after profusely thanking TT for his 2017 -play is to ask the question whether he is the QB capable of leading us in our next mission (go deep in the 2018 playoffs). The answer is probably not. However, this leads directly to the question of what's the alternative and how much will it cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Time will tell if qb play goes down with AJM or a Rookie...... For now I agree with the decision.....the simple fact of the matter is TT had reached his ceiling.....there is a lot of argueing on what that ceiling actually was and people cry all day about passing yards I dont care about passing yards at all....I care about scoring points and limiting turnovers.....he was not so great at the first with his arm and excellent with the other....but we need both We have a vet on the roster........just get the QB you believe in and lets move on.....good luck to TT in Cleveland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaLoko Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 On 4/7/2018 at 9:19 AM, DrDawkinstein said: I'll give props to OP for at least getting "should have" correct in the title. Thanks for your props Doctor, maybe because English is my second language I take it a little bit more seriously than Average Joe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 On 4/7/2018 at 1:44 PM, Freddie's Dead said: At least the OP used "should have" instead of the preferred "should of". I had that exact same thought when I saw it ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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