EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 This no trade mock really makes me think we are going to see at least one trade in the first in real life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I'd have been trying since pick 5 to get up if I were the Bills now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CajunBillsBacker Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: I think everyone on here would trade up as the Bills right now. But, no trades is no trades. At this point, I’d be on my couch breathing into a brown paper bag. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: This no trade mock really makes me think we are going to see at least one trade in the first in real life People complained about the amount of trades in the first mock, but I think it will be close. It only takes one team to pass on a QB or one player getting taken early for the frenzy to being. I set the over/under on first round trades at 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: I think everyone on here would trade up as the Bills right now. But, no trades is no trades. It's also pretty clear that the team that gets pretty screwed by trades is Miami (if they want a QB), which is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 5 1st round trades is a lot, but I don’t think it’ll be too much lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: It's also pretty clear that the team that gets pretty screwed by trades is Miami (if they want a QB), which is great! I wonder how real their interest in a QB is. I just don’t see them dumping and walking away from Tannehil completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said: 5 1st round trades is a lot, but I don’t think it’ll be too much lower I want to make a thread the week of the draft with a bunch of bet questions. Trades, QB’s taken, too 5 picks, etc. Try to make it fun and take the edge off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said: 5 1st round trades is a lot, but I don’t think it’ll be too much lower Is it? There were 5 draft day trades last year: Chicago - San Fran KC - Buffalo Houston - Cleveland Atlanta - Seattle Cleveland - Green Bay That is without all the legacy trades that affected the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Just now, Virgil said: I wonder how real their interest in a QB is. I just don’t see them dumping and walking away from Tannehil completely Gase is an Offensive minded coach who is on record multiple times as not happy with his offense or his team's mindset when playing from behind, granted last year was without Tannehill. If he has a shot at the top 4 I'd wager on him taking one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 The only trade I thought was questionable in Mock 1 was the Cardinals trading David Johnson to get up to get Baker. I just don't see him as a player who is anywhere near available for them. But for the purposes of the exercise it could have reasonably been considered they would trade their 2019 1st to move up and get the last QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Gase is an Offensive minded coach who is on record multiple times as not happy with his offense or his team's mindset when playing from behind, granted last year was without Tannehill. If he has a shot at the top 4 I'd wager on him taking one. Yeah I have been reading about them for the last draft and this one. It seems that QB isn't a need per se but that the team also wouldn't be against getting one. Tannehil hasn't played meaningful football since December of 2016 and he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire either. Rosen at 11 when his comp that comes up time again as Marino? Pick makes itself. In real life if a top guy is on the board after the Broncos pick every team between them and the Fins would be a likely trade partner for the Bills. 1 minute ago, Chuck Wagon said: The only trade I thought was questionable in Mock 1 was the Cardinals trading David Johnson to get up to get Baker. I just don't see him as a player who is anywhere near available for them. But for the purposes of the exercise it could have reasonably been considered they would trade their 2019 1st to move up and get the last QB. Yeah the inclusion of Johnson was far beyond reality but the move might not be as you said just different capital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Virgil said: I wonder how real their interest in a QB is. I just don’t see them dumping and walking away from Tannehil completely I could see them in on Falk or Lauletta. Maybe even Benkurt later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: The only trade I thought was questionable in Mock 1 was the Cardinals trading David Johnson to get up to get Baker. I just don't see him as a player who is anywhere near available for them. But for the purposes of the exercise it could have reasonably been considered they would trade their 2019 1st to move up and get the last QB. As the "owner" of the Cardinals when that deal went down, I actually offered the 2019 1st, and a few other picks, to move up. But was counter offered the D. Johnson deal and accepted. Main line of thinking was that, yeah Johnson has been good, but RBs are a dime'a'dozen these days QBs are not. We do not have a long-term QB, and with that trade we can still get a very talented RB with the remaining picks on the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, TheBeane said: As the "owner" of the Cardinals when that deal went down, I actually offered the 2019 1st, and a few other picks, to move up. But was counter offered the D. Johnson deal and accepted. Main line of thinking was that, yeah Johnson has been good, but RBs are a dime'a'dozen these days QBs are not. We do not have a long-term QB, and with that trade we can still get a very talented RB with the remaining picks on the draft. I don't agree that RBs like Johnson, Shady, Bell are a dime a dozen. I certainly think you can cobble together a backfield for situations like the Pats have had success doing. But the backs who do it all are few and far between. Personally, I think Johnson is the second best back in the league, since he's 26 he's exactly the type of guy you'd want to put in the backfield next to a rookie QB. Not to mention, trading him away and basically saying "we know we are going to be garbage" could, maybe would, lead to Larry Fitz retiring, then the Cardinals really would have nothing offensively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 With the 8th pick in the 2018 draft, Da Bears select LB Roquan Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 This is the longest draft in the history of mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 @Chuck Wagon and the 49ers are on the clock with pick #9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I can't explain the amount of anxiety I would have if the real draft was playing out like this. I would be staring at the ticker waiting for it to say the Bills traded up 7 minutes ago, TOboy said: With the 8th pick in the 2018 draft, Da Bears select LB Roquan Smith. I like this pick and match. He and Trevathan in the middle with Floyd on the outside would be a great lb crew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, section122 said: I can't explain the amount of anxiety I would have if the real draft was playing out like this. I would be staring at the ticker waiting for it to say the Bills traded up Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter Apr26 The 49ers have traded pick #9 to the Patriots for Rob Gronkowski, Pick #23, and Pick #31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter Apr26 The 49ers have traded pick #9 to the Patriots for Rob Gronkowski, Pick #23, and Pick #31. You know, if things played out like this...... I can’t even think of the appropriate reaction. Have you seen “The Reaping?” That x100 Edited April 6, 2018 by Virgil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter Apr26 The 49ers have traded pick #9 to the Patriots for Rob Gronkowski, Pick #23, and Pick #31. Don't even. That stopped my heart for a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter Apr26 The 49ers have traded pick #9 to the Patriots for Rob Gronkowski, Pick #23, and Pick #31. I would be okay with that. Gronk is a huge part of their success. Him leaving would only accelerate Brady's decline imo. In reality I would probably throw my remote through the tv and then get yelled at by my wife for being such a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeane Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I don't agree that RBs like Johnson, Shady, Bell are a dime a dozen. I certainly think you can cobble together a backfield for situations like the Pats have had success doing. But the backs who do it all are few and far between. Personally, I think Johnson is the second best back in the league, since he's 26 he's exactly the type of guy you'd want to put in the backfield next to a rookie QB. Not to mention, trading him away and basically saying "we know we are going to be garbage" could, maybe would, lead to Larry Fitz retiring, then the Cardinals really would have nothing offensively. Well I also tend to apply this statement to a few different topics, and it seems appropriate. Opinions are like @$$h0les, everyone has one and they all stink. Edited April 6, 2018 by TheBeane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I'm not going to lie, I'm genuinely conflicted here. First I'm not sure I see the draft playing out remotely like this. Second, if it did, there's no way this pick isn't traded. The best position player on my board (by a gap) doesn't remotely fit the 49ers scheme, the best player overall on my board makes zero sense here and would ruin the integrity of this exercise. But for the sake of some integrity, the 49ers select: Derwin James, DB, Florida St. Mike Mayock's analysis: The 49ers run a cover 3 scheme similar to the Seahawks, as such long corners are required, which rules out Ward. As badly as the team wanted to take Rosen, it simply makes no sense. James versatility could potentially allow him to slot in as a long term successor to Richard Sherman, or in the "Cam Chancellor" role of the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I was hoping it was real. Would love to have him gone 2x a year. As I do think hes a jerkoff he Is a beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Raiders are on the clock @RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: I'm not going to lie, I'm genuinely conflicted here. First I'm not sure I see the draft playing out remotely like this. Second, if it did, there's no way this pick isn't traded. The best position player on my board (by a gap) doesn't remotely fit the 49ers scheme, the best player overall on my board makes zero sense here and would ruin the integrity of this exercise. But for the sake of some integrity, the 49ers select: Derwin James, DB, Florida St. Mike Mayock's analysis: The 49ers run a cover 3 scheme similar to the Seahawks, as such long corners are required, which rules out Ward. As badly as the team wanted to take Rosen, it simply makes no sense. James versatility could potentially allow him to slot in as a long term successor to Richard Sherman, or in the "Cam Chancellor" role of the defense. That was my pick for the niners with how things played out. He can learn from Sherman while playing a cb/s hybrid role. I was nervous you were gonna screw me though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 18 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: With the 10th selection, the Raiders select Termaine Edmunds--LB, Virginia Tech. The Dolphins, @section 122 are on the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wild Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: With the 10th selection, the Raiders select Termaine Edmunds--LB, Virginia Tech. The Dolphins, @section 122 are on the clock. Dang if the qbs were gone that who I wanted the Bills to get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Time to crush the dreams of Bills fans across the country... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, section122 said: That was my pick for the niners with how things played out. He can learn from Sherman while playing a cb/s hybrid role. I was nervous you were gonna screw me though Believe me, I researched Garoppolo's contract. If there was any sort of out clause after a year or two, Rosen would have been the pick, but with $75 mil guaranteed I could not have picked him and maintained any sort of integrity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: With the 10th selection, the Raiders select Termaine Edmunds--LB, Virginia Tech. The Dolphins, @section 122 are on the clock. Couldnt let him fall to us at 12?! Wait are Rosen and Mayfied both still there? Dolphins take Mayfield and the Bills get Rosen!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Denzel Ward would be a heck of a value pick and fill a need for the Dolphins here. Just saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wild Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Couldnt let him fall to us at 12?! Wait are Rosen and Mayfied both still there? Dolphins take Mayfield and the Bills get Rosen!!!!! Mayfield was taken at 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Couldnt let him fall to us at 12?! Wait are Rosen and Mayfied both still there? Dolphins take Mayfield and the Bills get Rosen!!!!! Mayfield went to the Browns. The Dolphins are taking Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 The Dolphins make everyone on the board hate them and select Josh Rosen QB, UCLA. A couple of player comps you will see are to Cutler who Gase loves and his pure passing ability gets compared to Marino. Although Tannehil is still on the roster there will be a qb battle in the Dolphins camp. This is by far the bpa. @BuffaloHokie13 @Virgil you can put the poll up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, section122 said: The Dolphins make everyone on the board hate them and select Josh Rosen QB, UCLA. A couple of player comps you will see are to Cutler who Gase loves and his pure passing ability gets compared to Marino. Although Tannehil is still on the roster there will be a qb battle in the Dolphins camp. This is by far the bpa. @BuffaloHokie13 @Virgil you can put the poll up now. This is the darkest day of being a Bills fan... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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