dave mcbride Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: I think you’re overrating his year last year. He wasn’t dreadful but far too often, our pass rush was not good. Overall, our defense wasn’t good. He is one of the highest paid players on the team and I expect more out of him. Add to that, he tales some of the dumbest penalties ever. i don’t want him cut or anything. I just want more. Here's my take - he beat guys around the edge constantly all season, but lost out on a ton of sacks because the center of our line was so bad at pushing the pocket back that QBs were able to step up all year and avoid his mitts (the final Dolphins game was typical). Basically, he destroyed guys via outside moves all season. With a motivated a Dareus and a younger Kyle in there, he'd have had a double digit sack season. LUtuleilei is that guy who can push the pocket and make it hard to step up, so I expect more sacks next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Guys, Hughes was supposed to collapse the sides and the middle of the pocket. Yeah, exactly. It would be hard to name a handful of teams with worse pass rushers than Slack Lawson. Hughes is fine, he just can't do it by himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: But unfortunately, the season is 16 weeks or else Fitz would have a MVP trophy and Jauron would have a 2nd Coty award. 1 I'm not really qualified to talk too authoritatively on his play after the bye week because I didn't do any film review in the last two months of the season. Just saying, that dude was better than the stats showed early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I like Hughes. We have so little pass rush already. Hopefully we keep 1 of the few guys capable of producing it. Hughes will have a good year with better DTs. Keep him around please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Yeah, exactly. It would be hard to name a handful of teams with worse pass rushers than Slack Lawson. Hughes is fine, he just can't do it by himself. I'm just parroting what I've heard, but I think the issue is more than Lawson, that the interior linemen were not either keeping their point of attack, or even better, collapsing the middle towards the QB's face. Or the whole QB. But ideally his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said: In terms of how he impacted gameplanning in the early part of the season, he was massively effective. After the first 5-6 weeks, I was leading the "Jerry Hughes for the Pro Bowl" campaign. Stats might not show that much but tape don't lie. In weeks 5-6 our defense was looking like a top unit. Then something happened. Pass rushers struggle when your defense allows 250 yards rushing a game. My take away is that if Hughes is your only threat in pressuring the QB, then you're gonna have a bad time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Hughes was great 2 years ago when everybody else was content to loaf it under Rex. Huge respect. Maybe he was just having a scheme problem but he always gives it his all even after pay day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: In weeks 5-6 our defense was looking like a top unit. Then something happened. Pass rushers struggle when your defense allows 250 yards rushing a game. My take away is that if Hughes is your only threat in pressuring the QB, then you're gonna have a bad time. I think there are a few edge guys that can still wreck **** in isolation and Jerry isn't one of those guys. I think the Murphy signing gives the rush a better chance of being productive, especially if you can utilize Shaq as a run-downs player and keep Trent fresh. Edited April 2, 2018 by Blokestradamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Logic said: You know the catchphrase is working when even Jerry Hughes casually references it in an interview. ...personal foul otherwise........he's familiar with that I believe................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: It could be he's happy because even after a year in which he had almost ZERO production....he still has a locker. Really way off take. He didn't rack up a lot of sacks but he had very little help with that line.. He did have a lot of QB pressures however and was solid against the run. He's our best defender on the line last year by far. With some help this year from Star and Trent, he's going to have a great rebound season. Edited April 2, 2018 by Green Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Well the good news is Hughes has taken a stupid personal foul penalty in a couple of months. Mario made Jerry. I hear ya. i like hughes, but over the past few years , those personal fouls have been killers , it seemed. passion is good. not ready to quit on him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Logic said: 7th in the NFL in defensive hurries, ahead of guys like Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa, and Cameron Jordan. He also had 4 sacks and a forced fumble. He may not be a top 10 defensive end or anything, but to say that he had "almost ZERO production" is message board hyperbole at its finest. Do not let facts stop an irrational rant. 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I'm sure you're right. Hughes was super impressive last year. My bad. Correction. You suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Logic said: 7th in the NFL in defensive hurries, ahead of guys like Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa, and Cameron Jordan. He also had 4 sacks and a forced fumble. He may not be a top 10 defensive end or anything, but to say that he had "almost ZERO production" is message board hyperbole at its finest. Haters gonna hate on Jerry. Some things we we just have to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: It could be he's happy because even after a year in which he had almost ZERO production....he still has a locker. For the millionth time stats aren't everything. He was huge for us last season. 3 hours ago, Commonsense said: Put a competent pass rusher on the opposite side of Hughes and see how quickly he gets double digit sacks. Hopefully that PED guy can stay on the field this year and lessen the load on Jerry. Hopefully he doesn't get caught this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I think we need to draft another DE and DT that will make an impact this season. Hughes can't get enough done without a supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I think we need to draft another DE and DT that will make an impact this season. Hughes can't get enough done without a supporting cast. Agreed. Perhaps we get one VIA the draft? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Haters gonna hate on Jerry. Maybe they mix him up with Jerry Sullivan. There is a Jerry worth hating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Wont that be difficult when they trade their 6 picks in the top 100 for a qb. ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I'm just parroting what I've heard, but I think the issue is more than Lawson, that the interior linemen were not either keeping their point of attack, or even better, collapsing the middle towards the QB's face. Or the whole QB. But ideally his face. 100% this the play of the interior was subpar. I love Kyle but he is not a starting every down player anymore and the other players are just guys. Reason why they overpaid for Lotulelei a non flashy player but will solidify the middle. We need another DT who can be our Aaron Donald someone athletic and explosive who can make plays in the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: It could be he's happy because even after a year in which he had almost ZERO production....he still has a locker. Exactly what I was thinking. He's happy because they didn't sign a DE to replace him ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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