26CornerBlitz Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Cautionary tale for young athletes. Edited March 31, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Second day in a row Ive caught an interview with him. Incrediby impressive. Wish him the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Ryan Leaf? Does anyone give a crap about that Talk about one of the biggest busts in NFL history edited for clarity Relevant to today Johnny Manziel would be the better “topic for a conversation” on how not to screw up a career. Edited March 31, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 It's actually quite interesting. Leaf is articulate and very open. The interview is not mostly about his own football past (he admits to having been a bust and says it was his fault). His comments about the current crop of QB prospects is insightful. He has had a conversation with Josh Rosen. Rosen's decision to turn pro seems to have been motivated by the fact that both New York area franchises would be picking early in the draft. Obviously, Rosen, who is from New York, has ambitions to be in the largest media market. He didn't want to be in Cleveland. I presume he would not be thrilled to be in Buffalo either. He also thought that Mayfield has some of the same personality issues that he now recognizes as flaws in his younger self, which made it much harder to transition into the pros. Take it for what it's worth. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Rosen is from LA not NY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Ryan Leaf? Does anyone give a crap about that Talk about one of the biggest busts in NFL history Yeah. Some people actually do give a crap. There are ways to make yourself look like a lesser human being. But that doesn’t make you any better than them. Grats I wish Ryan the best. Addiction kills. I’m glad he’s survived so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 In terms of a "fit" for Buffalo more related to personality and demeanor, I think Darnold and Allen are the better choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Ryan Leaf? Does anyone give a crap about that Talk about one of the biggest busts in NFL history I'm interested. Most people fail in life at one time or another. His was just more public. To be known as a bust he must have been really really good at one point to even be in that position to have it not work out. Does that mean his life is over and he's a failure? Or did he just figure out how NOT to do something and if he's willing to be retrospective and teach us what he did and what he's learned I'd be interested. Who knows, it might teach me something and keep me from failing at things in my own life. I think studying and understanding why he failed is just as important and interesting as understanding how someone like Tom Brady has succeeded. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, kdiggz said: Rosen is from LA not NY Although there's no shortage of Downstate New Yorkers named "Rosen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) It's actually pretty fascinating and absolutely relevant. Leaf looked like a can't miss coming out of WSU. Manning vs Leaf was a real debate prior to that draft. So much so, it was a split cover on ESPN magazine, with that very headline.Manning was questioned for everything from average arm strength to his inability to beat the Gators. I'll readily admit I was relishing the thought of the Bills being able to draft Leaf throughout his 97 season. Leaf's flameout in the NFL was stunning and epic. There are lessons to be learned here. Edited March 31, 2018 by Boatdrinks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 How about SD just moving forward too. I think teams forget to cut their losses and move on. I know the Bills have been terrible with that. So, they take Leaf #2, then Brees in the 2nd, then Philip Rivers arguably 4th (or Eli #1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Grant Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Great insight from Leaf. I think he's right on with a lot of it, too. Also points out Buffalo as his first example of a desirable location for any of the top rookie QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Very interesting segment. Thanks for posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I really like that Buffalo is being mentioned as a "desirable location" in the NFL...says a lot about what people are starting to believe about the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 If you put his 41 year old mind in his 21 year old body, he could have been one of the greats. Imagine living your life as one of the biggest busts in NFL history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: If you put his 41 year old mind in his 21 year old body, he could have been one of the greats. Imagine living your life as one of the biggest busts in NFL history. I’d be fine living my life as a NFL bust as long as I didn’t blow the cash from my first big contract. Leaf on the other hand, did a good job blowing it all on dope. Edited March 31, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRHater69 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 There was a rumor at one point that the Chargers wanted to trade the rights to the 2nd overall pick to the Bills that year (98) because Kevin Gilbride wanted Rob Johnson from the Bills. Gilbride was his OC in Jacksonville. At the time I though the Bills should have done that, but neither of those guys amounted to much. I do wonder what history would have been like had we made the deal and then had Leaf bust on us the way he did. Ironically he beat us opening day that year. He barely won 4 games his career and we were one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: If you put his 41 year old mind in his 21 year old body, he could have been one of the greats. Imagine living your life as one of the biggest busts in NFL history. That's not how he's living his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 8 hours ago, TigerJ said: He also thought that Mayfield has some of the same personality issues that he now recognizes as flaws in his younger self, which made it much harder to transition into the pros. Take it for what it's worth. Not hard to see if you're being honest with yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 i caught him on cowherd the other day. thought he was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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