Herb62 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Kick off from the 45, most will be kicked out of the end zone and then you get it at the 25. However, on side kicks would be much more worth the gamble so it isn't an automatic boring play like the old extra point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, Herb62 said: Kick off from the 45, most will be kicked out of the end zone and then you get it at the 25. However, on side kicks would be much more worth the gamble so it isn't an automatic boring play like the old extra point. That is a very interesting suggestion. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) The biggest positive that would come from this is the Bills not wasting a roster spot on a kickoff specialist Edited March 28, 2018 by stevewin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 It's always something when kickoffs get punted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 10 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: It's like you live just to cause me pain lol, Why is that ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 15 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: They have to strike a balance, but no Kickoffs is fundamentally changing the game. Yeah. The game has to be changed. They're giving them a chance to bring down the injuries. If they can't, this makes sense. 12 hours ago, Herb62 said: Kick off from the 45, most will be kicked out of the end zone and then you get it at the 25. However, on side kicks would be much more worth the gamble so it isn't an automatic boring play like the old extra point. The article mentions that a lot of injuries occurred even on touchbacks, before the ball is whistled dead. Interesting thinking but it wouldn't appear to address the problem. And I don't agree that onside kicks would be much more worth it ten yards down. Teams would be even more and better prepared for onside kicks as they'd be the only reason to have a real kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Pretty sure CTE is caused by, or can be caused by, many small blows to the head adding up over time. The type that occur on every play and have nothing to do with kickoffs in particular. An OL, for example, who slams into an opponent on every single play, can be at greater risk for CTE than a skill position guy who gets lit up every now and again, despite the OL never getting lit up during his career. So, as to how banning kickoffs improves player safety is unclear. Edited March 29, 2018 by Fadingpain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 If you eliminate it put the ball at the 20 instead of the 25. I'm sick of offenses benefiting from nearly all of these rule changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Pretty sure CTE is caused by, or can be caused by, many small blows to the head adding up over time. The type that occur on every play and have nothing to do with kickoffs in particular. An OL, for example, who slams into an opponent on every single play, can be at greater risk for CTE than a skill position guy who gets lit up every now and again, despite the OL never getting lit up during his career. So, as to how banning kickoffs improves player safety is unclear. CTE is caused when a hit to the head (any hit), causes the release of Tau protein into the brain. While there are still studies being conducted on how to test (2 years ago, there was no test for living patients), brain mapping has now shown a direct correlation to the higher impact hits, where velocity develops (i.e. kickoffs, pass defense, momentum tackles). The NFL has vastly improved the equipment over the last 5 years that minimizes smaller, more compact hits. What is being discussed is the momentum hits, where equipment development is irrelevant due to the amount of trauma these hits deliver. What the NFL does, is expected to ripple down across all leagues. Right now, the concern is the growing amount of young players that are showing pre-CTE symptoms during medical testing at the combine. What the NFL is doing about this is actually pretty amazing. They know the risk and the impact these changes could have on earnings. They don’t care. They are trying to protect players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 16 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: As if kickoffs matter anymore. People need to stop complaining. They’re only really useful if an onside is needed. OK, so if there is no kickoff at all, what will happen when an onside kick is needed? 16 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: allow kickoffs to go out of bounds like punts and you'll see a lot fewer returns. That rule essentially forces a kickoff return play If they removed this rule, every drive would start from the 5 yard line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Kickoffs returns are very exciting. This will hurt the game...nothing worse than getting excited for opening kickoff then ball goes out of the endzone for a touchback...Back when Spiller and McGee were returning kicks....always a chance for a TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: lol, Why is that ?? If I can no longer scout kickers, punters & gunners, I'll need a new hobby! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 17 hours ago, Virgil said: What percentage of them come on kickoffs? The opening kickoff is such a mainstay of the game. It’s the opening pitch, the face off, and tip off. I just cant imagine football without it Plus the onside kick is eliminated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Xwnyer said: Plus the onside kick is eliminated Now that is straight baloney However, it would be helpful against the Dolphins as we apparently didn’t practice those anyways Edited March 29, 2018 by Virgil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Blokestradamus said: If I can no longer scout kickers, punters & gunners, I'll need a new hobby! Just think , now you can scout real players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 Steve Tasker built his NFL career around covering kicks and he’ll be part of a group getting together next month to discuss the future of kickoffs in the league. Tasker will join “10 special-teams coaches around the NFL and a bunch of old guys like me who used to cover kicks” at a meeting in New York as the league contemplates changes to kickoffs. A rule change calling for touchbacks to come to the 25-yard line was made permanent at this year’s league meetings after two trial years and the tide is moving toward a future without kickoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFreeman22 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I've said it before and I'll say it again. If they decide to get rid of kickoffs : If the scoring team scores a TD, place the ball at the opponents 25, if they kick a FG, place it at the opponents 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Is it worth it to take away jobs from fringe players if they do away with kickoffs? That is a LOT of players who aren't needed. They should do away with punts too. Heck, no more running plays either as it is a very high risk play for injuries. Heck, let's just not have an NFL any more. No chance for injuries there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 We should just all stay home in bubble wrap if this is what society has come to. You can only alter a game so much before it no longer exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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