You are McBeane, what would you do in the 2018 NFL Draft?

[Victory Formation]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I get Allen has huge upside, but he scares me even more than Mayfield.

 

I pray our scouts and FO are smarter than everyone else's. We can all have a bumper sticker: “My college scout is smarter than your college scout!” 

 

I'm okay with Darnold, Rosen, Allen or Mayfield at 6, either of them work.

[YoloinOhio]

I voted for A but I don’t think it’s accurate to say they would be giving up two full drafts

[SouthNYfan]

49 minutes ago, dpberr said:

I selected "Stay at 12" and build the team.  I think a high pick QB creates unnecessary QB controversy that'd be detrimental to both the pick and McCarron.  

 

Let's see what A.J. can do.  (Then...we'll panic if necessary.)

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I mean, mccarron makes it tough

What if he pulls a keenum this year and plays lights out ?

He's tougher to evaluate bc he wasn't a starter before (like keenum was)

Edited March 27, 2018 by SouthNYfan
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[Seventeen]

15 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

Trade up to 6 for Allen or Mayfield.

 

This ... although I think one of them is going to Denver. 

[SouthNYfan]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I voted for A but I don’t think it’s accurate to say they would be giving up two full drafts

 

Same

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Tatonka68 said:

Do we take Lamar at #12 because Daboll and the gang believe that he is our guy? (Electrifying and played in our system)

Ahh... No Lamar is Not a drop back quarterback, he is a one read and run QB, just one good hit from the IR, (RGIII or Tyrod)

 

Draft by talent not by need, Highest player on board and stay put.

 

 

 

Why are you parroting the same old fake news?

[BillsFan130]

Get to 2 somehow

[Mickey]

These choices are loaded with the prejudices of the poster. Lamar is "electrifying" and "played in our system" while trading up would "basically give away 2 drafts for 1 guy" while Mayfield and Allen "have questions". Staying put would "build the team" and trading for an extra first next year would be a patient "2 year plan". Totally fair poll.

 

Trading up would not "basically give away 2 drafts for one guy" and even if it was, I would rather spend 2 drafts on a 10 year starter then 1 draft on the next mediocrity we end up shipping to Oakland for a 5th round pick. Lamar is electrifying if by electrifying you mean exciting rehabs after the many torn tendons surely in his future. We have been "building the team" without bothering to get a top QB for the last 17 years. Getting a QB is part of building a team. Building a team without a real QB? It does. Not. Work. We haven't been in position to get a decent QB in a long time and if we miss this opportunity, we have no way of knowing if or when we will get another chance. 

 

My vote goes for a choice you didn't include: Make the best trade you can to get Mayfield, Rosen, Darnold or Allen. 

[Blokestradamus]

I keep on attacking the board as much as possible until no good option is left.

 

Darnold is surely going #1 so I'm giving up both 1st rounders this year and one next year for Rosen. If the Giants stay put and take Chubb/Saquon/Nelson, I know I'm losing another target at 3. You hope it's Allen and you offer Cleveland both 1st rounders and 2nd rounders this year for 4 to get Rosen.

 

If they stay put, I'm fairly sure I'm losing Mayfield or Rosen to the Broncos. I call Chris Ballard and offer #12 and both 2nd rounders. Hell, I'll still throw in 22 if I have to and grab the one that's left (I love Rosen, like Baker). If that fails, I don't know. Probably resign.

[The Jokeman]

38 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I wouldn’t want the Bills to trade up to 1 or 2 for anyone but Darnold. 

 

I think someone like Mayfield will be there at 12. I think the NFL is typically afraid to draft QB’s like him early even though he checks all the NFL boxes for QB......except height.

 

And we all know height for QB’s doesn’t matter.

 

So, the Bills could stand pat at 12, and Mayfield will probably be there.

 

I also wouldn’t care if they moved up to say 7/8/9 if the guy they want is there. And hopefully it’s not Josh Allen.

 

 

How deep we know? As I can tell you of two QB in the 6 foot range that were taken in the 1st Round and struggled in the NFL in Case McCown and Rex Grossman. I can also tell you about Doug Flutie and Tyrod Taylor struggles after their first years here. To me I trade up to 2 for Rosen or Darnold. It won't kill our draft I'd done right. Or if it does, so what we have $90 something in cap room next year so we can fill holes in free agency next year if needed. I'm also not opposed to staying at 12 for Raquon Smith and 22 for Mason Rudolph.

[sven233]

Any option that includes Allen is out for me.

 

Whatever it takes to make sure we get Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfiled, I will be good with.  Have to get 1 of those 3 guys.

[Meatplow]

Again, completely astounding how delusional so many posters on this board are by even THINKING of staying put at #12 in a once in a decade draft for QB talent, for a team that has desperately needed help at that position for 20 years, and so much draft capital to work with.  You're right, lets stay put and hope another read-n-run QB falls to us, or better yet, lets get a LB/OL/WR.  Makes perfect sense.  Sh*t, while we're at it lets get really creative and draft a kicker high in the 2nd round as well.

[Jay_Fixit]

7 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

How deep we know? As I can tell you of two QB in the 6 foot range that were taken in the 1st Round and struggled in the NFL in Case McCown and Rex Grossman. I can also tell you about Doug Flutie and Tyrod Taylor struggles after their first years here. To me I trade up to 2 for Rosen or Darnold. It won't kill our draft I'd done right. Or if it does, so what we have $90 something in cap room next year so we can fill holes in free agency next year if needed. I'm also not opposed to staying at 12 for Raquon Smith and 22 for Mason Rudolph.

Because we know. Those QB’s struggles had zero to do with height and 100% to do with being bad QB’s.

[The Jokeman]

Just now, Jay_Fixit said:

Because we know. Those QB’s struggles had zero to do with height and 100% to do with being bad QB’s.

K what about Johnny Manziel or Kellen Moore or Ty Detmer who all had great numbers in college? I'm not a fan of Baker and not afraid to admit it.

[Blokestradamus]

1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:

K what about Johnny Manziel or Kellen Moore or Ty Detmer who all had great numbers in college? I'm not a fan of Baker and not afraid to admit it.

 

I am the most ardent Kellen Moore fanboy (I actually fell in love with CFB because of him) but even I know he wasn't a good pro prospect. His height wasn't a detriment but his lack of an NFL arm certainly was.

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:

 

I am the most ardent Kellen Moore fanboy (I actually fell in love with CFB because of him) but even I know he wasn't a good pro prospect. His height wasn't a detriment but his lack of an NFL arm certainly was.

My point is college success is no guarantee at pro success and that shorter QBs have less issues in college than in the pros.

[jkirchofer]

The more this thing drags out the more I think the Bills should offer up 12 and 22 for Luck. He is throwing again and the Colts are refusing to talk about offers on Brissett.

[Blokestradamus]

1 minute ago, The Jokeman said:

My point is college success is no guarantee at pro success and that shorter QBs have less issues in college than in the pros.

 

I'll grant you that the more spread-out nature of CFB can help negate the issues with sight lines and passing lanes. Perhaps the issue isn't actually with short quarterbacks but that college is far more willing to innovate, to cater to specific skill sets? For all of his faults, Darrell Bevell actually spent time in building a timed structure for Russell Wilson in Seattle so that passing lanes came open at the right times.

 

You're right that CFB production doesn't equate to pro success. It would be easier to work out if it did. As far as it goes for Baker, he had no issue with working the middle of the field in college from the pocket despite having an O-line that averaged about 6'4" and peaked at 6'8". I think it's only an issue if it's actually an issue.

[Johnny Hammersticks]

BPA at 12, and then hope Mason Rudolph makes it to 22.  

[Tatonka68]

53 minutes ago, the skycap said:

Why are you parroting the same old fake news?

Why do you defend this WR so much?