SouthNYfan Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I agree on the first part but disagree on the second. 16 TDs and 4 Ints 6.80 YPA 907 rate in 11 games in 2016 on a dumpster fire team with a coach with one foot out the door and the other on a banana peel. I get the political/marketing problem but the stats just don't bear out that he's been figured out by defensive cocoordinators , shut down, and made ineffective. I would like to know how much of his stats were garbage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: I would like to know how much of his stats were garbage time. Look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 He isn't you only believe he is which is why you started this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: He isn't you only believe he is which is why you started this thread I Totally Agree. Sincerely, Punctuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: He isn't you only believe he is which is why you started this thread I think this was first written by Confucius...or maybe I got it in Fortune Cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: It is ridiculous that Colin Kaepernick had a successful career including 2 trips to NFC Championship and 1 Super Bowl and in in his prime gets ZERO interest. Yet a guy who had a short un productive career is for some reason getting interest. If it were up to me, I'd sign Colin today and name him the presumptive starter. Stop screwin' around Beane. not to mention has had tremendous issues off the field, including almost knocking a woman's eye out....but hey...at least he didn't protest killings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 31 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: No scorn, but he deserves nothing. He was drafted in the first round of the NFL draft and he flushed that opportunity down the drain. As someone who has dealt with mental illness myself, I hope he gets his life back together. But he, like me, doesn't deserve anything. I had to go get my next opportunity and so does he. Then I don't get your negative attitude. Why wouldn't you want to encourage Manzeil? Encouragement doesn't cost anything and could have great benefits. I'm sure anyone trying to tackle life issues could use the help regardless of circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I agree on the first part but disagree on the second. 16 TDs and 4 Ints 6.80 YPA 907 rate in 11 games in 2016 on a dumpster fire team with a coach with one foot out the door and the other on a banana peel. I get the political/marketing problem but the stats just don't bear out that he's been figured out by defensive cocoordinators , shut down, and made ineffective. Some fans point to stats to show Tyrod was a good QB. All that matters is that NFL teams view him as an average player. Le Sean McCoy expressed that opinion as well. If he was way above average , some team would put up with him. Most probably don't want to be in the middle of the circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Some fans point to stats to show Tyrod was a good QB. All that matters is that NFL teams view him as an average player. Le Sean McCoy expressed that opinion as well. If he was way above average , some team would put up with him. Most probably don't want to be in the middle of the circus. I had a boss that used to say "There's lies, there's damned lies, and then there's statistics." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Irv said: Lousy track record. He's a known addict and abuser. He throws for a pro day. Now he's on a dozen web sites speculating which NFL team will sign him. I can't stand Kaepernick, but if Manziel is signed and he is not - it would confirm that there is an NFL blacklist. Hype dies hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Another pro day scheduled ... https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/college-station-comeback-johnny-manziel-will-reportedly-throw-texas-pro-day/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I hate when people try to get their life together and succeed.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, ProcessAccepted said: I'm looking forward to the day the draft is over and there isn't 100 threads on trading up etc. There will just be 200 threads instead. 100 on why did we trade up and 100 on why didn't we trade up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 To be fair he’s always been somewhat relevant. The guy was a first round pick and looked pretty good against us in a few of his drives. I think he can still be an adequate player in the right situation. Provided he can ever get out of his own way that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: Then I don't get your negative attitude. Why wouldn't you want to encourage Manzeil? Encouragement doesn't cost anything and could have great benefits. I'm sure anyone trying to tackle life issues could use the help regardless of circumstance. You must have missed the part where I said I hope he gets his life back together. Thats different than football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Gugny said: Another pro day scheduled ... https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tamu-football/college-station-comeback-johnny-manziel-will-reportedly-throw-texas-pro-day/ Is he going to wear a helmet and shoulder pads for this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Irv said: Lousy track record. He's a known addict and abuser. He throws for a pro day. Now he's on a dozen web sites speculating which NFL team will sign him. I can't stand Kaepernick, but if Manziel is signed and he is not - it would confirm that there is an NFL blacklist. To be fair all he did was drugs and beat a girl, we know that means nothing in NFL HOWEVER Take a Knee during anthem and boom Blacklisted. Edited March 26, 2018 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Eric Moulds on my A** said: I think Johnnys got the off field stuff handled. What he brings to a team on the field? Not much from what I've seen. However, we really should be shaking every tree we see. Johnny, Kap, RG3... idk. McCarron goes down and we're stuck with a Rook or Peterman? We can wave goodbye to a winning season right there. IK the above mentioned names all carry media burdens but McD seems like the type a guy to rise above all that. Benching Taylor for Peterman was not a popular decision and he took a lot of heat. However, it worked two fold. We saw that Peterman isn't the answer and it motivated Taylor, enough so that we snuck into the playoffs. Lions dont lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. Yeah I'm not a Manziel guy at all but what harm would kicking the tires do? In a world where camp arms are all names we forget why not have Manziel be your 4th guy? If he does well great, if not cut him and continue on. 57 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: It is ridiculous that Colin Kaepernick had a successful career including 2 trips to NFC Championship and 1 Super Bowl and in in his prime gets ZERO interest. Yet a guy who had a short un productive career is for some reason getting interest. If it were up to me, I'd sign Colin today and name him the presumptive starter. Stop screwin' around Beane. I agree with the first part not so much the second part. He has a place as a backup in this league. When Blaine Gabbert is still on a roster or Chirstian Hackenburg or you know what I could come up with at least 15 names. Just look at the bottom of the list and tell me Kaep doesn't have a spot in place of one of these guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: To be fair all he did was drugs and beat a girl, we know that means nothing in NFL HOWEVER Take a Knee during anthem and boom Blacklisted. Most fans don't care about what Manziel did. Kaep isn't " blacklisted". That's so overused and inaccurate. He IS bad for business , in the opinion of most owners. Not worth the headache and drama he'd bring to a team. He's just not that good. 4 minutes ago, section122 said: Yeah I'm not a Manziel guy at all but what harm would kicking the tires do? In a world where camp arms are all names we forget why not have Manziel be your 4th guy? If he does well great, if not cut him and continue on. I agree with the first part not so much the second part. He has a place as a backup in this league. When Blaine Gabbert is still on a roster or Chirstian Hackenburg or you know what I could come up with at least 15 names. Just look at the bottom of the list and tell me Kaep doesn't have a spot in place of one of these guys. He doesn't have a spot because nobody wants him. Most teams want a backup to keep quiet, know their place and fall in line. That's not Kaep. His choice. A locker room is a fragile thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Most fans don't care about what Manziel did. Kaep isn't " blacklisted". That's so overused and inaccurate. He IS bad for business , in the opinion of most owners. Not worth the headache and drama he'd bring to a team. He's just not that good. He doesn't have a spot because nobody wants him. Most teams want a backup to keep quiet, know their place and fall in line. That's not Kaep. His choice. A locker room is a fragile thing. So he is blacklisted. Hmmmm why does Reid not have a job yet too? but hey doing drugs, quitting on your team, beating your Girl is ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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