sven233 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Ryan TalbotVerified account @RyanTalbotBills 44m44 minutes ago Sources: #Bills have standing offer for LB Preston Brown http://bit.ly/2tRtJn5 #BillsMafia http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/03/sources_buffalo_bills_have_standing_offer_for_linebacker_preston_brown.html My take: I think Preston Brown is a decent football player. He has a lot of limitations, especially in the pass game, but the guy is durable and a pretty smart football player. I've been of the opinion we need an upgrade in the middle of our defense for a while now. While Brown does some nice things, he rarely makes the big impact plays that change games. Before making a judgement as to whether I want him back or not, I'd love to know the details of the offer that is on the table. With the way LBs have been demanding huge contracts early in free agency here, I am in no hurry to sign him back. I don't want to pay the guy any more than $4 mil/per. My guess is that the Bills don't either and that they have set a price, and it's take it or leave it. Hopefully their price isn't too high, though. Still think we could get better there. We actually need a couple of linebackers though, so it will be interesting to see how this situation is handled come the draft. Edited March 16, 2018 by sven233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sig1Hunter Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 mil per? For your starting middle linebacker that happened to lead the league in tackles? I agree, he isn't that game changing MLB. But the guy can play and is a steady performer. 4m/year seems pretty skimpy for a guy with his resume, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I want a fresh start from linebacker. It would be a savvy move to trade next years 1st and 2nd picks and hold on to our picks this year. We have a crazy amount of cap next year...will be able add big pieces in free agency. I am a huge fan of the depth of this draft through 2-3 rounds Leighton Vander Esch from boise would be great in round 2 or rashaan evans in round 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 He played in every game for 4 yrs straight and made 3 mil over 4 yrs. Pay the man 7mil a yr avg for 4 years and front load it incase a better option come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, buffalover4life said: I want a fresh start from linebacker. It would be a savvy move to trade next years 1st and 2nd picks and hold on to our picks this year. We have a crazy amount of cap next year...will be able add big pieces in free agency. I am a huge fan of the depth of this draft through 2-3 rounds Leighton Vander Esch from boise would be great in round 2 or rashaan evans in round 1 Would love... Edmunds at 12 Vander Esch at 21 or 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I think the Bills will wait out the market for any other Fa signings. If there are no fliers for PB, the Bills might welcome him back at their rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalover4life Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said: 4 mil per? For your starting middle linebacker that happened to lead the league in tackles? I agree, he isn't that game changing MLB. But the guy can play and is a steady performer. 4m/year seems pretty skimpy for a guy with his resume, doesn't it? 4 might be a bit low, but I don't think they value him as a unquestioned starter, this team wants to upgrade the position, Mcdermott wants to find his Luke. Preston did not attack the line of scrimmage, plays kinda seemed come to him down the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I think Preston is a replaceable player. His durability has been his best asset, but his lack of speed and poor angles in pursuit are problems. He's also a liability against the quick pass game. It's safe to keep him and not create a hole, but it might be smarter to look to upgrade for a lot cheaper in the draft if they think such a prospect exists in the draft who'd be available in rounds 2-4. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Preston is replaceable, but the issue is that he is not easily replaceable. Look at FA and find me a guy of his caliber that can slide right into this defence. Nope. Can you guarantee that the Bills can acquire a better, if not at least equal, talent at MLB through the draft? Nope. This is why they want him back and I can't agree more. The $4 million value seems good, but I imagine that the leading tackler in the league last year is looking at closer to $6million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, NeckMeat182 said: He played in every game for 4 yrs straight and made 3 mil over 4 yrs. Pay the man 7mil a yr avg for 4 years and front load it incase a better option come around. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I hope it's only 1-2 years and they draft a franchise mlb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Estro said: I think Preston is a replaceable player. His durability has been his best asset, but his lack of speed and poor angles in pursuit are problems. He's also a liability against the quick pass game. It's safe to keep him and not create a hole, but it might be smarter to look to upgrade for a lot cheaper in the draft if they think such a prospect exists in the draft who'd be available in rounds 2-4. With who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 mill a year? He will absolutely get more elsewhere. Including here if he signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 hours ago, buffalover4life said: 4 might be a bit low, but I don't think they value him as a unquestioned starter, this team wants to upgrade the position, Mcdermott wants to find his Luke. Preston did not attack the line of scrimmage, plays kinda seemed come to him down the field That’s the way it works playing behind Adolphus Washington, Kyle Williams and Cedric Thornton. That’s the thing that people are missing when it comes to the Bills LBs. The Bills DTs were bullied in the run game. That’s not the LBs fault. Yes, it would be nice to add a playmaker and I think that they will. Brown can, and should, be the 3rd piece at the right price IMO. Solid, smart and productive is not a bad thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I wonder if they did the same thing with EJ Gaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Domdab99 said: With who? Read my last sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Gotta move on unless you are making him a two down guy who comes off the field in nickel. He is so mediocre and bringing him back is like re-signing Chris Kelsay...paying mediocre players has had a negative effect on this franchise for many years. I hope they stop doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 The other thing that people are missing is that he wasn’t a liability in the pass defense last year. The scheme is such that he isn’t isolated on smaller, quicker players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s the way it works playing behind Adolphus Washington, Kyle Williams and Cedric Thornton. That’s the thing that people are missing when it comes to the Bills LBs. The Bills DTs were bullied in the run game. That’s not the LBs fault. Yes, it would be nice to add a playmaker and I think that they will. Brown can, and should, be the 3rd piece at the right price IMO. Solid, smart and productive is not a bad thing. Very nearly my thinking. Sure there are things he can work on. But he could also be put in a better position for success. Getting the Line sorted out will go a rather long way for the Defense as a whole. But I still would like at least two LBrs upgraded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I don't dislike Brown. But, he's not the best. He is just a different player than Bradham but a more complete player overall, for example. I'd bump up the offer and still think the Bills retain him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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