Bing Bong Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I get a lot of flak for this but i think he will have a career year with Gordon and Jarvis. Browns will probably get Barkley but you have to imagine they pass play more than the bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I’m truly shocked by the number of people calling his time period a success. Just shows you how bad the suck has been since Kelly retired. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I call it yes. He was likely the best QB we have had on the roster since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Only measure of success is a SB title IMO. So, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) I wouldn't exactly call scoring 3 points in the Playoffs, then being traded to the worst team in the NFL a success. I wouldn't call it a complete failure either. Tyrod instead of still being a backup, got to start for a borderline playoff team. Then on his last year with that team, the cards played out to actually favor the Bills and they crawled into the Playoffs making him look interesting to a few teams so he could continue on. The Bills pulled a 3rd rounder and snuck into the Playoffs and that was a win. It wasn't being successful because we are now in transition from it. If Tyrod had a successful year with Bills they wouldn't of traded him. Tyrod can have flashes of being good. I think he actually can win some games for you. I also think he can manage a stalled out offensive games and do nothing to win it for you. I seen that at least a few times last season. I think Tyrod can win some games for the Browns. I also think if other teams defensive plans get in his head he will run some stalled out games. Edited March 12, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Dude... we broke a 17 year playoff drought. Of course it was... duuuuuuhhhhhh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: Tyrod’s record as a starter was 23-22. This stat includes playoffs which means after 17 years without a QB that could say this, it WAS a success IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 You have to define "success" for the conversation to have any meaning. If measured by whether or not we had a chance to win the Superbowl, no, Tyrod was never successful. We never even had a chance to win a playoff game with him, let alone a Superbowl. Some of us were saying that for the entirety of his stay in Buffalo. His ceiling is what it is and lucking backwards into a wildcard berth for a playoff loss is about as far as Tyrod is going to take you. No way that can be considered "successful". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 It was definitely a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 51 minutes ago, Mark80 said: Only measure of success is a SB title IMO. So, no. So Kelly’s H.O.F. Career was a failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Dude... we broke a 17 year playoff drought. Of course it was... duuuuuuhhhhhh..... THE TEAM DID sorry caps lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: This stat includes playoffs which means after 17 years without a QB that could say this, it WAS a success IMHO. Not success Looked worse than Tj Yates, Brock Osweiler, and Tim Tebow did. Edited March 12, 2018 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, TigerJ said: Because the Bills made the playoffs, you can say the Tyrod era represented incremental progress. I would not personally characterize it as either success or failure. 8-8 to 7-9 to 9-7 (backing into playoffs) is not quite incremental progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 No. Mediocrity is not success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Wins and losses are a function of the team, so I'll leave that out of the discussion. I voted for failure for one simple reason that everyone keeps beating around the bush about. Taylor was incapable of carrying the team on his back when the team needed him to do exactly that. There were many games where the Bills defense and special teams absolutely stymied opposing teams offenses and Taylor did nothing. When teams schemed to make him beat them as a passer, he couldn't do it. Some QB's aren't good at the two minute drill. Tyrod looks inept whether under the constraint of the clock or not. At his position, I can't rate him as anything other than failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 It’s hard to label anyone who had to play within the Rex Ryan Clown Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berg1029 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 For me, no. It was not a success. We were no better than we were during any of the years in the drought. We were just as mediocre as before: not bad enough to get a good draft pick but not good to have a realistic shot at the superbowl. The definition of mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 If mediocrity equals success, yes. If not, no. Im a lose the battle win the war type guy and TT only won about half his battles, except in the playoffs where he won and will win zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Negative. The Tyrod Taylor era is the same as the Rex Ryan era - a big waste of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Of course it was a success. The Bills broke the drought and he left the team in much better shape than when he got here. There is a process in sports that teams go through (sorry to use that word). You usually don’t go from out of the playoffs to champion (I realize that just happened). You usually have to be tested some. The Bills are AT LEAST a step ahead of where they were when he joined the team. I don’t know how that can be considered anything but successful? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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