NoSaint Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 From my understanding based on some conversation and the logic flows for me... Can you talk to non-expiring contracts on other teams? his contract is not scheduled to end. He may hit a clause the voids the future years in a few days though. Makes sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I am truly impressed by the quality of posts from this board today. Just when I think it cannot get any worse. Boom, we get this gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: So teams can't talk to him? where is this info from? Teams can't talk to him until the 14th. NO will owe Brees 18 million (if I remember correctly) even if he signed with another team. He "technically" has 2 or 3 year left on his contract which becomes void if he is still on the roster 14 March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 so sick of fake "sources" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: True, concerning the 2 day negotiating window. The deal with Brees is NO and him are not in a rush to put his new contract on the books yet. This frees up money for the Saints to bring in new people and get rid of others. Once it all settles then Brees will sign the new contract. Brees is not going anywhere but NO. No, the saints would certainly like to keep his past signing bonus amortization kicked into future years. If this stretches they get a huge cap hit that they can’t alter AND whatever the new contract is... the issue is drew plays hard ball (nothing wrong with that but he knews he has the leverage with the clock ticking) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: No, the saints would certainly like to keep his past signing bonus amortization kicked into future years. If this stretches they get a huge cap hit that they can’t alter AND whatever the new contract is... the issue is drew plays hard ball (nothing wrong with that but he knews he has the leverage with the clock ticking) Yeah, at first I thought that too but 18 million is less in cap space than his expected contract of 25+. As to your other question his contract notes reads Void on 14 March and 18 added to dead cap. If so, I don't know if once money goes Dead can it be reclaimed. Interesting conversation, thanks NoSaint! Contract Notes: $44M guaranteed (signing bonus + 2016 salary + 2017 salary) $24.25M in new guarantees ($19.75M guaranteed on the previous deal) Voids 3/14/2018, kicking in $18M of dead cap No trade clause No franchise tag clause (after 2017) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, ColoradoBills said: True, concerning the 2 day negotiating window. The deal with Brees is NO and him are not in a rush to put his new contract on the books yet. This frees up money for the Saints to bring in new people and get rid of others. Once it all settles then Brees will sign the new contract. Brees is not going anywhere but NO. That makes sense on why he is not signed. Good point of view and probably the most realistic. Especially with the quality of the team New Orleans has right now. 7 minutes ago, NoSaint said: No, the saints would certainly like to keep his past signing bonus amortization kicked into future years. If this stretches they get a huge cap hit that they can’t alter AND whatever the new contract is... the issue is drew plays hard ball (nothing wrong with that but he knews he has the leverage with the clock ticking) Brees throughout his entire career has played the hardest of hard ball on his contracts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Manther said: That makes sense on why he is not signed. Good point of view and probably the most realistic. Especially with the quality of the team New Orleans has right now. Brees throughout his entire career has played the hardest of hard ball on his contracts.. NoSaint brought up a good point though. The only way my idea makes sense (if the 18 has to go to Dead) is they sign a contract that plays with the 2018 cap hit (smaller cap hit in 2018) and push out the rest. Brees is old though and one would think all these "moves" are going to catch up with them again in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 And I thought my football mind was warped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Don't want him in Buffalo. O chance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Not sure who believes it, but just in case... Buffalo Fanatics @BuffFanatics It’s believed the #Bills and #Jets will be going after QB Drew Brees. Brees wants to stay in New Orleans though. Thoughts? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, mead107 said: Don't want him in Buffalo. O chance I don’t want him in Buffalo either. Last time he was there he blew up our defense to the tune of 47 points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, PIZ said: Sign Brees and trade up for Mayfield would be nice, but will never happen. Beane after he signs Brees: vince always had the best walk. i love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: Nope - this team is not a SB contender even with Brees. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: Its been misreported like crazy this week. I think many don’t get that it’s voiding a contract not just a simple expiring contract so the nuts and bolts are different not getting it done will be nothing pretty for the saints cap though - definitely they want an extension and not a void (with cap hit accelerated from the last bonus) followed by a totally fresh contract Any thoughts about Kelemete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theAteam Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Why would Brees leave a guaranteed contender for at least the next few years for rebuilds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, theAteam said: Why would Brees leave a guaranteed contender for at least the next few years for rebuilds? I think that’s where the “he wants to stay in New Orleans” part comes in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Plz get brees. him, shady, KB, even clay? Plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, theAteam said: Why would Brees leave a guaranteed contender for at least the next few years for rebuilds? He certainly wants to and 99.999999% will stay in New Orleans. There are few destinations where the team he goes to wouldn’t instantly be a contender though. If he signed here — between free agency and 6 early draft picks add 2 WRs a couple front 7 defenders and a little depth and we are instantly a super bowl favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Not sure who believes it, but just in case... Buffalo Fanatics @BuffFanatics It’s believed the #Bills and #Jets will be going after QB Drew Brees. Brees wants to stay in New Orleans though. Thoughts? This website it total crap....anyone who believes the fake news on that site is out of their mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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