Bring it Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Saw Mayfield in a video next to L.T. Ladanian is listed as 5’10”. Mayfield had an inch on him, no more than 2 inches! I question if he is even 6’ ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I trust the combine measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Not saying he can’t play just that the odds of a really good nfl Qb being 6’ or less is small. Not high enough to take in the first 15 picks. 1 minute ago, Batman1876 said: I trust the combine measurements. I generally do too. Maybe LT is taller than listed. But anyway there definitely wasn’t much difference between the two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: Just a few QB's I will name to show 6'1 is not to small Drew Brees 6' Russell Wilson 5'10 Aaron Rogers 6'2 Dak Prescott 6'2 Baker Mayfield 6'1 Think we are being over critical over an inch or 2? Is it now how there motion is in the pocket and there foresight knowing where the player is going to be and where the ball has to be more important? just a wondering question. https://thebiglead.com/2018/03/29/wait-how-tall-is-baker-mayfield-how-tall-is-russell-wilson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bring it said: Not saying he can’t play just that the odds of a really good nfl Qb being 6’ or less is small. Not high enough to take in the first 15 picks. I generally do too. Maybe LT is taller than listed. But anyway there definitely wasn’t much difference between the two! They are small odds but not at draft time. Short QBs who make it to the draft have even or better odds than an average or tall QB. It’s because only trancendant talent can get a short QB to the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 No one has been able to list a single QB that didn't make it because of their height. It's a ridiculous reason to dismiss someone. Anything above 6' is fine in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 About Baker Mayfield being to small thats what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I'm going to be Savior Baker on this forum. Watch out folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said: He doesn't have ideal size, period. Still a great prospect, but it does matter. The only question you have to ask. Is he good enough to overcome it? Hold your thumb and index finger about two inches apart. That is what we are talking about. Yeah, 6'4 would be better, but 6' 1 is big enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: No one has been able to list a single QB that didn't make it because of their height. It's a ridiculous reason to dismiss someone. Anything above 6' is fine in the NFL. I think that list is just hard to quantify. There are a lot of smaller college quarterbacks who haven't made it and there are a handful who have. The problem with listing guys who haven't made it, was it just height or a number of things that caused them to fail? Guys like Joe Hamilton and Pat White who lit up college football and did not make it. Was it because they were too small? I don't really know. Cade McNown, Ty Detmer, Rex Grossman, Tyrod Taylor, Timmy Chang...these are all guys who lit up college football who were 6-1 or less and did not make it. Some had a bit of success in the NFL. Quarterbacks under 6-2 who are good are few and far between and that is the point. It it is easier to list the guys who have made it. Vick, Wilson, Brees, Flutie, Tarkenton, Jurgensen, Len Dawson, Theissmaan. That is 8 guys in the entire history of the game, 4 of whom played in a time where everyone was smaller across the board, so really just 4 guys and Flutie and Vick are questionable. Wilson is a ridiculous athlete with huge hands and Brees has huge hands and ridiculous accuracy. I like Mayfield, and I think he has a chance, but history is not on his side. He is a short, spread quarterback, who lacks speed, with slightly smaller hands. These are all legit concerns if you are drafting him super high. In a lot of his college film he took super deep drops and ran around to buy himself some time. This is not going to work in the NFL. He is going to have be able to have to make throws within a collapsing pocket and step up into that pocket with 6-5 lineman in his face. We saw what running around in a circle got us with Tyrod, but at least he ran 4.5. It's tough. Do I think he can do it? Maybe, but you can't say that these are not legitimate concerns with Mayfield. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Batman1876 said: So which QBs have been limited due to height? Tyrod and Flutie come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 he'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Batman1876 said: It’s not? Can you name any QBs who failed because of height? Tyrod Taylor can't see **** until he leaves the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: Tyrod and Flutie come to mind. So a sixth round talent and a guy from the 1980's. I will note that Tyrod is the second most successful 6th round QB of the last 20 years. And Doug did alright for an 11th round pick Edited March 30, 2018 by Batman1876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I consider Mayfield an exception to the rule when it comes to the height stuff. He has incredible production against some of the best in the country. His intangibles are off the charts. Leadership qualities. Accuracy is fantastic. Can make all the throws. If he was some run-of-the-mill QB with semi-impressive stats against average competition, then I can see the height issue being a thing. But there have been many QB's that have come into the league and have thrived despites some negative attributes through sheer will, and Mayfield comes across as that type of someone. I would love if the Bills took him or Darnold. The others concern me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Batman1876 said: So which QBs have been limited due to height? Flutie had good games with the Bills but then opponents started to game plan to keep him contained in the pocket and he wasn't as effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Flutie had good games with the Bills but then opponents started to game plan to keep him contained in the pocket and he wasn't as effective. I think he played well for an 11th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Mayfield's accuracy is a thing of beauty. Will be ecstatic if we land him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Flutie had good games with the Bills but then opponents started to game plan to keep him contained in the pocket and he wasn't as effective. they started doing same thing they did with Tyrod. Crowd the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: Just a few QB's I will name to show 6'1 is not to small Drew Brees 6' Russell Wilson 5'10 Aaron Rogers 6'2 Dak Prescott 6'2 Baker Mayfield 6'1 Think we are being over critical over an inch or 2? Is it now how there motion is in the pocket and there foresight knowing where the player is going to be and where the ball has to be more important? just a wondering question. Being able to move in the pocket sure can help. Because of his height he will have to be a little better at another skill to break even with a guy with the gift of being a little taller. thats all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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