26CornerBlitz Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: I don't think it's reasonable for his rehab team to encourage this delusion either. Why make ultimate disappointment part of his rehab plan? It's his mindset and has nothing to do with any rehab team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Must be the CTE. No team physician will clear his spine. Someone needs to talk to this poor kid... Not yet- him thinking he can play again will get him much further along... if he never gets there he’ll have been better for trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Not yet- him thinking he can play again will get him much further along... if he never gets there he’ll have been better for trying. Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's his mindset and has nothing to do with any rehab team. I disagree. His rehab team should be very clear as to what is possible and what is not reasonable to encourage a rehabbing patient to believe. His neck has been instrumented. I can't imagine he would be cleared due to the immense risk (and obvious liability) to clearing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Don't you have to play in the NFL for 5 years to get the 300k/yr per life pension? I hope he keeps his benefits. Only been playing for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: Don't you have to play in the NFL for 5 years to get the 300k/yr per life pension? I hope he keeps his benefits. Only been playing for 4 years. He made 9.5 million over 4 years and the Steelers picked up his 5th year option for 8.7 million guaranteed for injury according to overthgcap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I hope he plays football to Touch football in the park with his kids for years to come 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 100% healthy has nothing to do with returning to the NFL. His goal should be 100% health, that's all. He's financially set for life, he should be happy he isn't paralyzed permanently. I don't think it's healthy for him to be deluded by dreams of returning to the NFL. He needs to be redirected to being healthy in general and satisfied that he is otherwise intact. We often agree but on this one.... like 3 months after possibly losing his dream I am not going to stress on him using it as a motivator to get out of bed in the morning and try to crush his PT. Eventually he has to make the transition to normal person but if Nfl dreams help him get back to walking sooner (or at all) - dream away dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsinytown Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I think the young man deserves credit for setting a high goal for himself. He may never achieve it but he'll definitely work his butt off in physical therapy, which is usually quite painful. I would expect that down the line, he'll reconsider playing. But he's most definitely not stupid or selfish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Don't do it! WALK away Ryan. WALK now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, NoSaint said: We often agree but on this one.... like 3 months after possibly losing his dream I am not going to stress on him using it as a motivator to get out of bed in the morning and try to crush his PT. Eventually he has to make the transition to normal person but if Nfl dreams help him get back to walking sooner (or at all) - dream away dude. 13 minutes ago, gobillsinytown said: I think the young man deserves credit for setting a high goal for himself. He may never achieve it but he'll definitely work his butt off in physical therapy, which is usually quite painful. I would expect that down the line, he'll reconsider playing. But he's most definitely not stupid or selfish. I guess I don't understand why being a healthy, fully functional, extremely wealthy young man shouldn't be his goal. Why does the impossibility of returning to the NFL have to be the point of his rehab? His surgeon will tell him he can't play anymore. His rehab team should tell him as well. It should be emphasized how incredibly lucky he will be to achieve normal movement without a lifetime of constant pain. Are people really telling him "yeah, you could return to the NFL, Ryan! Let's focus on that!"? If so, they are being cruel, I think. This isn't a matter of "dreaming" or "defying the odds". He should be encouraged to believe that healthy life can exist without football and that should be his focus. False hope isn't proper rehab. Edited February 21, 2018 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I guess they always say it's better to have high goals and to set the bar high. That way if you don't reach it, you will still accomplish a lot more than setting low goals. All the best to him whatever he decides to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 45 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I guess I don't understand why being a healthy, fully functional, extremely wealthy young man shouldn't be his goal. Why does the impossibility of returning to the NFL have to be the point of his rehab? His surgeon will tell him he can't play anymore. His rehab team should tell him as well. It should be emphasized how incredibly lucky he will be to achieve normal movement without a lifetime of constant pain. Are people really telling him "yeah, you could return to the NFL, Ryan! Let's focus on that!"? If so, they are being cruel, I think. This isn't a matter of "dreaming" or "defying the odds". He should be encouraged to believe that healthy life can exist without football and that should be his focus. False hope isn't proper rehab. Im guessing he is setting this goal not his team. I would assume he has been told that it would be an incredible long shot and he’s decided to try to beat the odds. Dudes probably rolled into a ton of workouts the last 10-15 years with that in his head. I don’t expect it to instantly disappear from who he is as a human. Hopefully as this goes on he makes the transition you outline - but how and when that happens isn’t the same for everyone and at least his view of the future is skewed towards optimism and hard work instead of depression and hopelessness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Im guessing he is setting this goal not his team. I would assume he has been told that it would be an incredible long shot and he’s decided to try to beat the odds. Dudes probably rolled into a ton of workouts the last 10-15 years with that in his head. I don’t expect it to instantly disappear from who he is as a human. Hopefully as this goes on he makes the transition you outline - but how and when that happens isn’t the same for everyone and at least his view of the future is skewed towards optimism and hard work instead of depression and hopelessness I don't expect it to disappear from his psyche. What I'm saying is that is the job of those running his rehab to tell him the playing football is off the table and should not be what motivates him toward full function. Such delusion serves no purpose when it is guaranteed to disappoint and possibly depress this guy in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Seems like a dumb idea. He must be broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 it is good to have a vision and motivation for rehab, especially if it is taken to the aggressive level of getting back into pro athlete condition. time will tell, and I think the Steelers are the only franchise that does not allow players with crutches or other support on the sidelines during games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Nothing is worth paralysis. He needs to call it a career and hav a good life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. It may not necessarily occur in a linear fashion, but seems most likely to occur in this situation. Horrible injury to an elite athlete., and it seems somewhat understandable he would feel this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Must be the CTE. No team physician will clear his spine. Someone needs to talk to this poor kid... Yes, I suspect it will be as it was for Aaron Williams - even if he is healed and pronounced healthy, no team physician will clear him to play football. They really ought to tell him straight up, and not string him along as Aaron was apparently strung - on the other hand if the hope of coming back is motivating his rehab I'm sure no one wants to dampen that. Edited February 21, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes, I suspect it will be as it was for Aaron Williams - even if he is healed and pronounced healthy, no team physician will clear him to play football. They really ought to tell him straight up, and not string him along as Aaron was apparently strung - on the other hand if the hope of coming back is motivating his rehab I'm sure no one wants to dampen that. Williams was not injured like Shazier. But i'm not sure anyone was stringing AW along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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