elroy16 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Long-time Bills trainer Bud Carpenter has retired. Edited February 5, 2018 by elroy16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Who clears injured players to play? I don't think it's Bud, it's the medical staff. No issues with Bud for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Who clears injured players to play? I don't think it's Bud, it's the medical staff. No issues with Bud for me. No issues from me either, but I know Bud and his staff have been blamed for injuries in the past on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 A long, illustrious career with the Bills. congrats on your retirement, Bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 minute ago, elroy16 said: No issues from me either, but I know Bud and his staff have been blamed for injuries in the past on here. Rule of thumb for Bills fans: Nothing is ever the player's fault unless his name is Marcel Dareus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Didn't someone say on here a while back that a long time employee from the training staff would "retire" but it would actually be a firing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Congratulations to Bud. Man has he seen a lot. He came in with Polian I believe. There will be a lot of tributes to him from players. Dilly, Dilly, Mr. Bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Already made some changes to medical staff last year as well 2 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Didn't someone say on here a while back that a long time employee from the training staff would "retire" but it would actually be a firing Dunkirk Don - I think he was referring to overdorf based on the detail Edited February 2, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Already made some changes to medical staff last year as well Dunkirk Don - I think he was referring to overdorf based on the detail I think their may be some truth to overdorf being let go, and he just decided to retire. Beane and McDermott are fully cleaning house. This Imo is the difference between the current coach and previous coaches. They're building this team properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Bud has come a long way. He used to work at the athletic field house at SUNY Fredonia when I went there (1980 graduate). Not sure if he wasn't more than just a grad student working a job there. He used to re-string racket ball rackets! Anyway, when the Bills came to Fredonia State for training camp, somehow he latched on to the organization & worked his way up. He also works as a trainer for the Boston Bruin's IIRC. Nice career! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, Steptide said: I think their may be some truth to overdorf being let go, and he just decided to retire. Beane and McDermott are fully cleaning house. This Imo is the difference between the current coach and previous coaches. They're building this team properly. Wait, what? When? Overdorf retired? Missed this. If there is a difference, it doesn't lie with the coach/GM but with the authority being given to the coach/GM. Word was that Whaley and Marrone wanted to make changes to the training staff and FO and were not allowed to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wait, what? When? Overdorf retired? Missed this. If there is a difference, it doesn't lie with the coach/GM but with the authority being given to the coach/GM. Word was that Whaley and Marrone wanted to make changes to the training staff and FO and were not allowed to do so. No he’s still here. But pegula left it up to Beane on whether to retain him, so the assumption is he will be gone eventually given Beane’s background in contracts and cap. Whaley had a scouting background so overdorf had a place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Bud has been around for 33 years and done a fine job. He’s in his 60’s and deserves to enjoy time with his family and friends. You don’t always get to pick when your time comes in the NFL and I’m glad Bud did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Bud has been around for 33 years and done a fine job. He’s in his 60’s and deserves to enjoy time with his family and friends. You don’t always get to pick when your time comes in the NFL and I’m glad Bud did. ....agree.......and faulting him for injuries is nonsense.......thanks for your dedicated service................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 47 minutes ago, elroy16 said: I'm sure this will make many fans happy. To paraphrase DC Tom, only the stupid ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wait, what? When? Overdorf retired? Missed this. If there is a difference, it doesn't lie with the coach/GM but with the authority being given to the coach/GM. Word was that Whaley and Marrone wanted to make changes to the training staff and FO and were not allowed to do so. Maybe the pegulas are learning. Plus I'm pretty sure Russell Brandon was still a big part of the bills at that time. I'm willing to bet beane and McDermott pretty much have full control at OBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Let’s put him on the wall too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Steptide said: Maybe the pegulas are learning. Plus I'm pretty sure Russell Brandon was still a big part of the bills at that time. I'm willing to bet beane and McDermott pretty much have full control at OBD I’ve said it a zillion times here but no one ever believes me. RB’s role is virtually the same as it has always been. He was once over football ops but didn’t make any football decisions. Marv Levy was the same way. They had people that reported to them that did but had 100% autonomy to make those decisions. He was the acting owner for a period. Prior to that Littman was the acting owner. If you think about the decisions that an owner has to make that was his role. You don’t see owner’s scouting and selecting players (except Jerry Jones who was the GM and comes from a football background). The majority empower their people to do it. It was the exact same situation. Everyone assumes that there has been some big massive change. There has been in some ways. The Bills have active owners now. Terry is filling the role that Russ filled not McDermott. Russ is back to running the business side of things which is what he really did the whole time. He delegates some of that during his time as de facto owner to Wheat, Honan, Popka, Guelli, etc... Without sounding like a jerk, I’m telling the truth. I know a ton of people over there on all sides of the operation. It’s not true that Russ or Marv ever made real football decisions. The football side was owned by John Guy and Tom Modrak. 6 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Let’s put him on the wall too. Ed Abramoski was the head trainer for 37 years and is on the Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 50 minutes ago, Gugny said: Rule of thumb for Bills fans: Nothing is ever the player's fault unless his name is Marcel Dareus. For Dareus to be at fault does it have to be Dareus specific, or can the QB situation be blamed on him as well? Actually... dead money... the QB situation CAN BE partly Dareus's fault. Mother******! Mr. Big Puff strikes again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, I'm Spartacus said: Bud has come a long way. He used to work at the athletic field house at SUNY Fredonia when I went there (1980 graduate). Not sure if he wasn't more than just a grad student working a job there. He used to re-string racket ball rackets! Anyway, when the Bills came to Fredonia State for training camp, somehow he latched on to the organization & worked his way up. He also works as a trainer for the Boston Bruin's IIRC. Nice career! He was there already when we got there in 1976. He ran the intramurals programs and we became friends. He got me tickets to Bills games in various cities over the years. He's a really great, generous guy. Congrats, Bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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