What is it with NE? Why isn't this all cool to see?

[TheFunPolice]

Imagine an alternate universe, where the Colts with Manning and Dungy were going for SB title #6. Manning has all the career and single season passing records as it is now, but his Colts team has been winning instead of NE. Brady has 2 rings, 1 with NE and 1 with the Broncos, after being traded. Peyton is going for ring #6 in less than 2 weeks.

 

I would want to see it, because it would be cool. Rack up the stats! Rack up the rings!

 

Or if it were Rogers and Green Bay going for #5 or #6. Again, cool story I would think. Of if the Seahawks kept their team rolling and the Legion of Boom was looking for #3 or #4 by now. I would find it fun to watch.

 

Typically I am all for seeing great teams and players rack up accolades. I WANT to see a team go 19-0 (just not NE for some reason). I want to see some QB come in and throw 60 TD in a season and 6,000 yards. I want to see a RB break Emmitt Smith's career yardage mark.

 

But somehow, I have always hated NE and Brady and wanted them to fall short.

 

It has nothing to do with the division. I could care less honestly.

 

I think, for me, that it's about the Tuck Rule and Spygate vs the Rams. And the Chargers with my man Marty as coach winning the game in the playoffs vs NE on an interception only to fumble the damn thing right back and give Brady another shot. Early on every BS thing went their way, and I've just always hated them for it.

 

But there is something else, something intangible that drives me nuts about them. Every time I want to say "ok, cool, they are just this generation's 49ers" another scandal, story, or some nonsense like the illegal formations vs. the Ravens a couple years ago comes out that just makes it feel like they are a great team that also has ticky tack ways to beat you. I think them being called the greatest of all time with 3 point SB wins involving stolen signals and the failure of TWO teams to just run the ball makes it worse.

 

I honestly think it would have been easier to swallow if they steamrolled teams in their Super Bowl wins and the tuck rule was never a thing. Spygate was sort of annoying, but to me it didn't move the needle a ton. It was just another reason to dislike them more than anything else. Deflategate was just a joke.

 

So, what is it about NE? Or are you just excited to see greatness when they play?

 

 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

Maybe if they had a better HC than Dungy, they would have made this dream come true...

[frostbitmic]

I won't watch them play ... I know the results and I know that they were helped to victory, it's always the same damn thing.

 

I have better things to do.

[KDIGGZ]

Belichick and Brady are proven cheaters.

Edited January 24, 2018 by kdiggz

[Success]

The national hate started in 2007.  Their fans refer to that year as the eff you tour, when they routinely ran the score up on less talented teams.

 

They aren’t popular champions for a reason.  They don’t want to be, and relish the villain role. 

[Juice_32]

9 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

Belichick and Brady are proven cheaters.

 

This.

[TheFunPolice]

6 minutes ago, Success said:

The national hate started in 2007.  Their fans refer to that year as the eff you tour, when they routinely ran the score up on less talented teams.

 

They aren’t popular champions for a reason.  They don’t want to be, and relish the villain role. 

 

I get this, but personally I would usually like that. The Seahawks had a bit of that going on but they weren't able to keep it going. Brash, cocky, mouthy, etc. I would typically find that entertaining. I would usually find it funny/entertaining if a team like Seattle was doing it.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

19 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Imagine an alternate universe, where the Colts with Manning and Dungy were going for SB title #6. Manning has all the career and single season passing records as it is now, but his Colts team has been winning instead of NE. Brady has 2 rings, 1 with NE and 1 with the Broncos, after being traded. Peyton is going for ring #6 in less than 2 weeks.

 

I would want to see it, because it would be cool. Rack up the stats! Rack up the rings!

 

Or if it were Rogers and Green Bay going for #5 or #6. Again, cool story I would think. Of if the Seahawks kept their team rolling and the Legion of Boom was looking for #3 or #4 by now. I would find it fun to watch.

 

Typically I am all for seeing great teams and players rack up accolades. I WANT to see a team go 19-0 (just not NE for some reason). I want to see some QB come in and throw 60 TD in a season and 6,000 yards. I want to see a RB break Emmitt Smith's career yardage mark.

 

But somehow, I have always hated NE and Brady and wanted them to fall short.

 

It has nothing to do with the division. I could care less honestly.

 

I think, for me, that it's about the Tuck Rule and Spygate vs the Rams. And the Chargers with my man Marty as coach winning the game in the playoffs vs NE on an interception only to fumble the damn thing right back and give Brady another shot. Early on every BS thing went their way, and I've just always hated them for it.

 

But there is something else, something intangible that drives me nuts about them. Every time I want to say "ok, cool, they are just this generation's 49ers" another scandal, story, or some nonsense like the illegal formations vs. the Ravens a couple years ago comes out that just makes it feel like they are a great team that also has ticky tack ways to beat you. I think them being called the greatest of all time with 3 point SB wins involving stolen signals and the failure of TWO teams to just run the ball makes it worse.

 

I honestly think it would have been easier to swallow if they steamrolled teams in their Super Bowl wins and the tuck rule was never a thing. Spygate was sort of annoying, but to me it didn't move the needle a ton. It was just another reason to dislike them more than anything else. Deflategate was just a joke.

 

So, what is it about NE? Or are you just excited to see greatness when they play?

 

 

 

 

 

..begrudgingly, it is hard to deny they are good....pretty unreasonable to conveniently lump ALL of their accolades into "cheaters" category.......they were stupid enough to get caught and I'd bet there were 31 other teams "snickering" about it...the 'ol "pushing the envelope"......wonder where we would be as far as "favorites (COUGH)" if we had won those 4 SB's in a row......accolades or hatred?........................

 

1.The Patriots have since become one of the most successful teams in NFL history, winning 15 AFC East titles in 17 seasons since 2001, without a losing season in that period.

2.The franchise has since set numerous notable records, including most wins in a ten-year period (126, in 2003–2012), an undefeated 16-game regular season in 2007, the longest winning streak consisting of regular season and playoff games in NFL history (a 21-game streak from October 2003 to October 2004), and the most consecutive division titles won by a team in NFL history (won nine straight division titles from 2009 to 2017).

3.The team owns the record for most Super Bowls reached (eight) and won (five) by a head coach–quarterback tandem, now heading for #9 in 17 years..

4. New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady recorded his 28th career victory over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday Dec 24.

5. Belichick's career mark is 250 wins and 118 losses for a .679 winning percentage.

[White Linen]

5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

I get this, but personally I would usually like that. The Seahawks had a bit of that going on but they weren't able to keep it going. Brash, cocky, mouthy, etc. I would typically find that entertaining. I would usually find it funny/entertaining if a team like Seattle was doing it.

 

Do you really not understand why they're hated?  We obviously have a little more skin in the hate because they're in our division but there's a reason they're so disliked by all manner of NFL fans.

[TheFunPolice]

I do like that they have guts. So many teams are wimpy.

 

Marrone opted out of the Super Bowl by getting scared of his own shadow. Same with the Falcons. Too scared to take it.

 

I doubt we ever see a team actually go for 19-0. Why? Scared. scared of injuries. Scared of the attention. Scared to go 18-1. How many of these meat head coaches would feel better being 14-1 in week 17 so they can rest starters and nobody blinks?

 

1000 yard stare Caldwell had 16-0 right there for the taking and went into his shell, benching Manning after a few series and his team went out with a whimper. Weak. Wimpy. And they lost the Super Bowl too.

 

So I respect NE for going for it. They didn't rest anyone, nor did the Giants in that week 17 game. That takes guts, which so many coaches just don't have.

[row_33]

39 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Imagine an alternate universe, where the Colts with Manning and Dungy were going for SB title #6. Manning has all the career and single season passing records as it is now, but his Colts team has been winning instead of NE. Brady has 2 rings, 1 with NE and 1 with the Broncos, after being traded. Peyton is going for ring #6 in less than 2 weeks.

 

I would want to see it, because it would be cool. Rack up the stats! Rack up the rings!

 

Or if it were Rogers and Green Bay going for #5 or #6. Again, cool story I would think. Of if the Seahawks kept their team rolling and the Legion of Boom was looking for #3 or #4 by now. I would find it fun to watch.

 

Typically I am all for seeing great teams and players rack up accolades. I WANT to see a team go 19-0 (just not NE for some reason). I want to see some QB come in and throw 60 TD in a season and 6,000 yards. I want to see a RB break Emmitt Smith's career yardage mark.

 

But somehow, I have always hated NE and Brady and wanted them to fall short.

 

It has nothing to do with the division. I could care less honestly.

 

I think, for me, that it's about the Tuck Rule and Spygate vs the Rams. And the Chargers with my man Marty as coach winning the game in the playoffs vs NE on an interception only to fumble the damn thing right back and give Brady another shot. Early on every BS thing went their way, and I've just always hated them for it.

 

But there is something else, something intangible that drives me nuts about them. Every time I want to say "ok, cool, they are just this generation's 49ers" another scandal, story, or some nonsense like the illegal formations vs. the Ravens a couple years ago comes out that just makes it feel like they are a great team that also has ticky tack ways to beat you. I think them being called the greatest of all time with 3 point SB wins involving stolen signals and the failure of TWO teams to just run the ball makes it worse.

 

I honestly think it would have been easier to swallow if they steamrolled teams in their Super Bowl wins and the tuck rule was never a thing. Spygate was sort of annoying, but to me it didn't move the needle a ton. It was just another reason to dislike them more than anything else. Deflategate was just a joke.

 

So, what is it about NE? Or are you just excited to see greatness when they play?

 

 

 

 

 

My formative years were spent cheering for the Bird Celtics, so I had opportunities to cheer against great players for the Sixers and Lakers and other teams.

 

I admired the talent and effort of Erving and Magic and Kareem but never cheered for them, I mostly despised them.

 

But never once did I resort to childishness in putting them down because they bested my favourite team often.

 

 

[TheFunPolice]

2 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

My formative years were spent cheering for the Bird Celtics, so I had opportunities to cheer against great players for the Sixers and Lakers and other teams.

 

I admired the talent and effort of Erving and Magic and Kareem but never cheered for them, I mostly despised them.

 

But never once did I resort to childishness in putting them down because they bested my favourite team often.

 

 

 

I don't think that's it for me though. I literally have no reaction at all to Bills/Patriots games, other than to shrug and say "oh well." The Bills start each year 0-2. Just how it is.

 

The last time I really got worked up for a Bills/NE game was the McKelvin fumble. Few others were even worth watching because the Bills never really have a team that is up to the challenge, and we know that going in. So it has nothing to do with the Bills.

 

 

[MrEpsYtown]

29 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

Belichick and Brady are proven cheaters.

Yep exactly.

[row_33]

I'm old enough to remember the Fish whipping the Bills all 20 games in the 70s, so this is kind of Keelhauling 2.0.

 

And Griese and his team weren't nearly as talented as this Pats team.... so on it goes with a second time I've had to wait it out to finish....

 

 

[Gray Beard]

All of them have questionable character issues, but Manning and Rodgers come across as nice guys, good guys, funny guys.  Brady comes across as an arrogant jerk.

 

Guys like Gronk and Edelman are easy to dislike because they display no sportsmanship or class.

 

These are some of the reasons why I have a dislike for that team, other than their dominance of the Bills for over a decade.

[row_33]

 

and Belichick is way better than Shula (who dined off that who cares perfect season for 20 more years and minimal accomplishment....)

 

[Kwai San]

31 minutes ago, kdiggz said:

Belichick and Brady are proven cheaters.

 

Yes, yes they are - hence the dislike even outright hatred towards this team......funny watching games involving the Cheatriots in a bar - most of their fans are vilified!  AND THEY should be!

 

Eff the Patsies - GO BILLS - actually right now it is GO BIRDS!!!

[row_33]

Pack was cheaters with Lombardi

Cowboys with Landry

Steelers with Noll

 

whaa whaa whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

winning solves everything, start building a real team in Buffalo and we won't have to cry all offseason again

 

it's been done a few times...

 

[Gugny]

I think I've rooted for NE in every Super Bowl they've played.  This year, I'm rooting for Philly.  I think these are the two best teams in the NFL and I think Philly has been more consistent - even with the loss of their MVP-caliber QB.  Phenomenal job of coaching, if you ask me.

 

When it comes to the Super Bowl, I always root for the team I think (100% opinion) deserves it most.

 

This year, it's the Eagles.  And if the Vikings had won, it would have been them.

[row_33]

13 minutes ago, Gugny said:

I think I've rooted for NE in every Super Bowl they've played.  This year, I'm rooting for Philly.  I think these are the two best teams in the NFL and I think Philly has been more consistent - even with the loss of their MVP-caliber QB.  Phenomenal job of coaching, if you ask me.

 

When it comes to the Super Bowl, I always root for the team I think (100% opinion) deserves it most.

 

This year, it's the Eagles.  And if the Vikings had won, it would have been them.

 

 

 

For Pats playoffs games I just sit there and wait for the other shoe to drop on opponents.  Either by greatness from Brady or Carroll/Falcons curling up in the fetal and handing the game over.

 

Once they got steamrolled by a gold rush by the Ravens and it seemed like it was 21-0 after a few minutes of the game, but that's the only trouncing I can recall.