BuffaloRush Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Great comments from Marcel "Mr. Big Stuff" Dareus following a Jacksonville win where his defense gave up nearly 50 points. He sure sounds like a jilted lover that was dumped. Here's the best comment: http://buffalonews.com/2018/01/15/marcell-dareus-says-bills-organization-treated-him-like-a-nobody/?utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1516027750 Then Dareus talked about his own journey. Dareus said he loved the city of Buffalo, but then offered a sarcastic thank you to Bills coach Sean McDermott for helping him make changes in his life before the trade. (Last week, he said joining the Jaguars helped turn his life around.) I'm sorry to all you Bills revisionist historians out there, but Marcell is not the same player he was 4 years ago. Marcell is Yes he is a competent starter that is capable of being productive. And yes trading Marcel did hurt the Bills defense and the return they got for him was pathetic. The problem is that Marcell couldn't be trusted not to smoke weed or to do something stupid. He was one strike away from a season long suspension. Worse, his contract was so bloated and did not justify his production or his importance to the defense. Also don't think for a second that his contract won't have repercussions on Jacksonville. Next year, they probably won't have the cap space to sign any of the big free agent QB's. Sorry but to anyone that feels that Marcel is that all pro or one of the best players in the league is sadly mistaken. He looked pretty good yesterday but I wouldn't call his performance dominant. Also, he's playing on a line with two All-Pro defensive lineman and several other good pass rushers. Watch the game film from earlier this year - or watch the games against Miami last year. Marcell is living off his past laurels and I will stand by the fact that dumping his contract was a good move by the Bills. Jerry Sullivan put things into perspective: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He's telling the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: He's telling the truth. All-Pro eh? Sure looked like it last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Dareus is an all pro talent, probably will be a dominant player on that team much like Lynch in Seattle. Both players went to the perfect landing spots to turn their careers around. Edited January 15, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloRush said: All-Pro eh? Sure looked like it last season Because they played him at NT and tried to convince him he was Vince Wilfork and not Warren Sapp. We'll see how it plays out over the years but my guess is they want him to rush the passer more than Rex did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: He's telling the truth. Yeah, he just forgot to mention that he's one strike away from being out of the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 hah i swear, some fans must've been personally harmed by these ex Bills. let it go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Mike in Syracuse said: Yeah, he just forgot to mention that he's one strike away from being out of the league. Environment is everything to a kid like Marcell. Bills didn't help him. He's lost a lot in life and he needs someone to believe in him. Bills didn't. We'll see but my guess is Marcell will be the best DT in football going forward. I really don't even look at this year because I think he's still in his NT shape. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Dareus is an all pro talent, probably will be a dominant player on that team much like Lynch in Seattle. Both players went to the perfect landing spots to turn their careers around. You are out of your mind if you believe that in 2018. Marcell is no longer an All-Pro. He definitely wasn't one this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Because they played him at NT and tried to convince him he was Vince Wilfork and not Warren Sapp. We'll see how it plays out over the years but my guess is they want him to rush the passer more than Rex did. What were his stats this year before he was traded? He wasn't playing NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He's an All-Pro and Bills Treated Him Like A "Nobody" This couldn't be more accurate. Sometimes things like this happen. It happened. Time to move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Dareus is an all pro talent, probably will be a dominant player on that team much like Lynch in Seattle. Both players went to the perfect landing spots to turn their careers around. He's not even a starter... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Wow, when doe he shut up about this? His "all pro" days are behind him. He's part of a line that doesn't rely on him like the Bills did/would. He's got it good right now, but he's a child. Next Monday, he can go back to the strip club and Mongolian buffet all 7 days a week until OTA's. Move on bro. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, 87168 said: hah i swear, some fans must've been personally harmed by these ex Bills. let it go. At least they aren't the fans want to believe that every player that leaves the team is an "All Pro" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, BuffaloRush said: You are out of your mind if you believe that in 2018. Marcell is no longer an All-Pro. He definitely wasn't one this season. You read it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Mike in Syracuse said: What were his stats this year before he was traded? He wasn't playing NT. But the coach didn't want him from day one. And stats in McDermott's defense for a DT is worthless. What are Starrs Stats for McDermott? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: Environment is everything to a kid like Marcell. Bills didn't help him. He's lost a lot in life and he needs someone to believe in him. Bills didn't. We'll see but my guess is Marcell will be the best DT in football going forward. I really don't even look at this year because I think he's still in his NT shape. Sure - because Marcell was an the best DT this season right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, dneveu said: He's not even a starter... Can people read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: Environment is everything to a kid like Marcell. Bills didn't help him. He's lost a lot in life and he needs someone to believe in him. Bills didn't. We'll see but my guess is Marcell will be the best DT in football going forward. I really don't even look at this year because I think he's still in his NT shape. The Bills didn't help him? They were supposed to make sure he didn't get high during the offseason? Were they supposed to drive him around so he wouldn't wreck his car? Kyle Williams was like a God damn father to the kid. He wasn't treated poorly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He got drafted 3rd overall, got paid $100 mil and was given every opportunity to clean his act up. What kind of nobodies does he know that get similar treatment? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: He's an All-Pro and Bills Treated Him Like A "Nobody" This couldn't be more accurate. Sometimes things like this happen. It happened. Time to move on. They gave him a contract that said even if he gets suspended, again, he gets all the money. He lied about going into rehab and instead hung out with Bruce at his lakefront compound. Who else on the Bills got a deal like that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, TheTruthHurts said: Can people read? Yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mike in Syracuse said: The Bills didn't help him? They were supposed to make sure he didn't get high during the offseason? Were they supposed to drive him around so he wouldn't wreck his car? Kyle Williams was like a God damn father to the kid. He wasn't treated poorly. All this stuff you say they shouldn't do, the Cowboys DID for Bryant. He comes from a bad situation. He's learning stuff most people learn at 16. Edited January 15, 2018 by CuddyDark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: But the coach didn't want him from day one. And stats in McDermott's defense for a DT is worthless. What are Starrs Stats for McDermott? Stats aren't worthless. Other guys made plays, tackles, interceptions. Williams, Lawson, Washinton, Hughes all had tackles. Dareus got lazy when he got his fat contract, the proof is in the numbers. His production at Jacksonville hasn't exactly been all pro. 2 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: All this stuff you say they shouldn't do, The Cowboys DID for Bryant. He comes from a bad situation. He's learning stuff most people learn at 16. I never said they shouldn't do it. I said what was done. Marcell is the same guy who said he was going into rehab and decided to go out instead. Bryant? Really? You might want to look at his numbers this year. Another guy who routinely quits on plays. Edited January 15, 2018 by Mike in Syracuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I dunno... multiple suspensions for drugs. Drag racing. Enjoyed 2 years in Club rex. Showed up late to a preseason GAME. not a meeting, not a practice. a GAME. Show a little accountability for yourself Marcel. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: All this stuff you say they shouldn't do, the Cowboys DID for Bryant. He comes from a bad situation. He's learning stuff most people learn at 16. It's his 7th year in the league! What is he learning now that you learned at 16?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Shame with this guy. The guy is very talented and we made every accomodation for him to be succesul on the field (sans Rex Ryan) and off the field (money). I would have liked that he embraced the process but it was not meant to be. I still hate the compensation we got for him, though is better than nothing. Let it go, MD, be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Mike in Syracuse said: Stats aren't worthless. Other guys made plays, tackles, interceptions. Williams, Lawson, Washinton, Hughes all had tackles. Dareus got lazy when he got his fat contract, the proof is in the numbers. His production at Jacksonville hasn't exactly been all pro. I agree Mike. @CuddyDark says it's because he's in "Nose Tackle Shape" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, Mike in Syracuse said: Stats aren't worthless. Other guys made plays, tackles, interceptions. Williams, Lawson, Washinton, Hughes all had tackles. Dareus got lazy when he got his fat contract, the proof is in the numbers. His production at Jacksonville hasn't exactly been all pro. You are the same people who said this about Lynch, Jason Peters, Willis and so on. You people get bitter if the player doesn't bend over backward and kiss Buffalo's ass. He's a troubled kid looking for a leader and Bills tried to play good cop bad cop. I'm telling you I know a million kids like Marcell from the East Side and if they get one hint you could turn on them, they zone you out. Just now, BuffaloRush said: I agree Mike. @CuddyDark says it's because he's in "Nose Tackle Shape" LOL Did Rex make him a NT? Rex had him playing zero technique. Am I making that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: You are the same people who said this about Lynch, Jason Peters, Willis and so on. You people get bitter if the player doesn't bend over backward and kiss Buffalo's ass. He's a troubled kid looking for a leader and Bills tried to play good cop bad cop. I'm telling you I know a million kids like Marcell from the East Side and if they get one hint you could turn on them, they zone you out. You know this how? Oh I forgot - you work for the Bills organization right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: You are the same people who said this about Lynch, Jason Peters, Willis and so on. You people get bitter if the player doesn't bend over backward and kiss Buffalo's ass. He's a troubled kid looking for a leader and Bills tried to play good cop bad cop. I'm telling you I know a million kids like Marcell from the East Side and if they get one hint you could turn on them, they zone you out. Stop, just stop. He's not a kid but an aging veteran on his second contract and his second team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: You are the same people who said this about Lynch, Jason Peters, Willis and so on. You people get bitter if the player doesn't bend over backward and kiss Buffalo's ass. He's a troubled kid looking for a leader and Bills tried to play good cop bad cop. I'm telling you I know a million kids like Marcell from the East Side and if they get one hint you could turn on them, they zone you out. You might want to be careful with your generalizations there skippy. I never said anything about Lynch. Peters didn't want to be here and wasn't going to stay here. Willis McGahee was fine here. Marcell had one great year and got a $100M contract for it. He needs to stop crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: I dunno... multiple suspensions for drugs. Drag racing. Enjoyed 2 years in Club rex. Showed up late to a preseason GAME. not a meeting, not a practice. a GAME. Show a little accountability for yourself Marcel. I'm sure it's because he wanted out by then. I'm not saying I'm for any of his antics. I'm saying you have to understand kids like him. He's never going to go along to get along if he thinks you're not doing the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 The fact that Marcell is even carrying on about the situation is in and of itself indicative of the problem with him. The Bills made him a very rich man (not that some other team would not have). In return for that monster contract the Bills had every right to expect that he would play and behave above acceptable and appropriate levels. I agree with Gugny, scary thought I know. Time to move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 This again? Bills are living rent-free in Marcel’s head. Time to move on, 99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: This again? Bills are living rent-free in Marcel’s head. Time to move on, 99. No he'll have this in his head for the rest of his career. He'll still be saying, "because I'm not good enough for Buffalo," for years to come. Especially if he's doing well. Player use being cut or traded as motivation all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjjr Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 He's an All Pro when he wants to be not always when the team needs him to be. Unfortunately the Bills paid a lot of money to find that out. The Jags got him cheap and he's been a good investment so far. Have to see how things go next week and over the next few years before anyone (including him) can make a judgement or statement like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Whatever fuels his fire is good for him and the Jags. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It's his 7th year in the league! What is he learning now that you learned at 16?? Trust. Accountability. Friendship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Environment is everything to a kid like Marcell. Bills didn't help him. He's lost a lot in life and he needs someone to believe in him. Bills didn't. We'll see but my guess is Marcell will be the best DT in football going forward. I really don't even look at this year because I think he's still in his NT shape. I wish someone would not believe in me and hand me a $100 million contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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