Buffalo716 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 In your opinion who is the best basketball player of all time. im stuck between Wilt and Larry Bird wilt was the most dominant player of all time. A beast, can bench 500 pounds Larry was magical on the court. His IQ, his shot. His attitude. He was a better rebounder than Lebron. Michael couldn't beat him until he was 34. who do you have as the best basketball player of all time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was a huge magic Johnson fan growing up. But I can’t deny the greatness of Jordan. To me, he’s by far the best player ever, or at least that I have ever seen. Not sure there was anyone more clutch too. As time goes goes by though, I’ve come to really appreciate how great Larry Bird was too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Magic Mark Price though was the best shooter I've ever seen and my favorite player growing up Edited December 30, 2017 by Another Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Bird was my idol for high school and undergrad/postgrad years but i give the nod to Kareem Adbul-Jabbar for being a great villain, the dominant centre and focus of all action in every game he played and his endurance and will to play each night KA-J would have LOVED to sit out 15 times a year because he didn't feel like playing, and then dog it for another 25 while dressed for being tired Jordan's teams wouldn't have come within 20 points of the Magic/Bird Era teams Edited December 30, 2017 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Wilt the Stilt...........and it's not even close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 You almost have to define the position more clearly and made distinctions among eras in the game. For what they did, when the played, and style of game, Chamberlain, Bird, Michael, Magic, all stand out as almost beyond superstar status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Bob Lanier or Randy Smith...I thought they were Gods in the 70’s as a kid going to Braves’ games. Never really got into pro basketball after they left Buffalo. I did watch some Julius Irving in middle school/high school...he revolutionized the slam dunk and made the game entertaining. Michael Jordan has my vote as best ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Don't forget Ernie D or Jack Marin's birthmark for the Braves... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Jordan...that's the professional athlete of my childhood I will be telling my grandchildren I got watch play growing up(that is if they even care, there seems to be a general downward trend of each generation's youths caring less and less about sports it seems) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 34 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Jordan...that's the professional athlete of my childhood I will be telling my grandchildren I got watch play growing up(that is if they even care, there seems to be a general downward trend of each generation's youths caring less and less about sports it seems) The NBA has changed so much the last decade with the use of every square inch out there on O I wish Bird and Rick Barry and Maravich and World B Free had the freedom to have taken 15 3's a game with ease... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FappyTheClown Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Dennis Rodman. He saved us from North Korea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, row_33 said: KA-J would have LOVED to sit out 15 times a year because he didn't feel like playing, and then dog it for another 25 while dressed for being tired Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills4everNY Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Sweats said: Wilt the Stilt...........and it's not even close. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I know the book is still open on this one, but how can LeBron James not be in the conversation? Still has to be Jordan for me. Maybe one of the best defenders to play the game on top of everything else he did offensively. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 4 hours ago, row_33 said: Don't forget Ernie D or Jack Marin's birthmark for the Braves... Friends that were into the Brave's at the time, referred to him as "Ernie No-D" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 53 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I know the book is still open on this one, but how can LeBron James not be in the conversation? Still has to be Jordan for me. Maybe one of the best defenders to play the game on top of everything else he did offensively. That comparison comes down to who is more clutch, imo. Game on the line. Last shot. To me, it’s not even a close call. Jordan was the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Bob Lanier or Randy Smith...I thought they were Gods in the 70’s as a kid going to Braves’ games. Never really got into pro basketball after they left Buffalo. I did watch some Julius Irving in middle school/high school...he revolutionized the slam dunk and made the game entertaining. Michael Jordan has my vote as best ever. Greatest dunk ever? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Jordan. He made everyone around him better. He commanded the respect and demanded they be better. I love LeBron. Consummate pro. Ridiculous talent. But when he sees that his team is losing, he takes it upon himself to win games. To me, that's the difference between James and Jordan. Jordan didn't just say, "here, let me do it." He said, "you guys do THIS, and I'll do THIS and we'll get this **** done." I think LeBron, Wilt and Magic are easily among the best, ever and there's not a strong argument against any of them being the GOAT. But to me ... it's Jordan. Hands down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Hard to say clearly because positions are so different but Bill Russell won a little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 By the way, interesting that no one has made the case for Tim Duncan. Kind of forget about him, but he could be in the running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: By the way, interesting that no one has made the case for Tim Duncan. Kind of forget about him, but he could be in the running. Yeah I always liked Tim. Quiet guy that just did his thing. Maybe why underrated? Surprised Kobe hasn't been mentioned yet either. I mean Michael was definitely better imo but I'd imagine he would warrant some discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 53 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Greatest dunk ever? The “cradle” dunk...Dr J was da’ man. The defender there mind of jumped up, then thought better of it and just let him do his thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 42 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: By the way, interesting that no one has made the case for Tim Duncan. Kind of forget about him, but he could be in the running. For sure a great but not top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 45 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: The “cradle” dunk...Dr J was da’ man. The defender there mind of jumped up, then thought better of it and just let him do his thing. Yeah Michael Cooper pretty much confirms what you just said: He wasn't a bad defender either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Jordan. He made everyone around him better. He commanded the respect and demanded they be better. I love LeBron. Consummate pro. Ridiculous talent. But when he sees that his team is losing, he takes it upon himself to win games. To me, that's the difference between James and Jordan. Jordan didn't just say, "here, let me do it." He said, "you guys do THIS, and I'll do THIS and we'll get this **** done." I think LeBron, Wilt and Magic are easily among the best, ever and there's not a strong argument against any of them being the GOAT. But to me ... it's Jordan. Hands down. Good point about LeBron v Jordan. I’ll probably get flamed by some for this, but what about Kobe?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Good point about LeBron v Jordan. I’ll probably get flamed by some for this, but what about Kobe?? This is why I kinda don't automatically jump to Jordan. Kobe was spectacularly clutch and pretty much even with Jordan IMO Larry Bird was the best shooter in the league and he rebounded better than guys like Lebron. He was also spectacularly clutch Wilt changed the game. They said they changed the rules that you cannot dunk a free throw because of wilt chamberlain. This was going into his Freshmen year of college. The 100 point game. Etc There is a Big 5 to me because there has been so many eras Wilt, Jordan, Bird, Kareem, Even yes Kobe is right there he was phenomenal defensively as well Edited December 31, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 8 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Bob Lanier or Randy Smith...I thought they were Gods in the 70’s as a kid going to Braves’ games. Never really got into pro basketball after they left Buffalo. I did watch some Julius Irving in middle school/high school...he revolutionized the slam dunk and made the game entertaining. Michael Jordan has my vote as best ever. We split season tix with some other family back then. LOVED Randy Smith and the way he pushed the ball. Sucked being trapped behind the Celtics much like now with the Pat’s*. My sister used to babysit for Bob Kaufman’s kids. I liked the NBA back THEN, not nearly as much now. Wilt held a lot of records, and they weren’t all on the court, if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Braves had a good team but they weren’t going to beat the Celtics or Bullets in the playoffs. The handful of games played in Toronto were enjoyed. McAdoo was an earlier version of Durant but Bob had to play centre on D and hit the boards all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 9 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Good point about LeBron v Jordan. I’ll probably get flamed by some for this, but what about Kobe?? I definitely think Kobe is part of the conversation. I can't believe Oscar Robertson hasn't been mentioned. Also ... full disclosure - I am NOT a basketball fan, per se. I hardly watch it and I don't even have a "favorite team." I tried to embrace Brooklyn, but I just can't watch the games until it's NBA Finals time. That said - I'm sure there are rule changes, etc., that make each case different for players from Oscar Robertson's generation, vs. players from Magic/Bird's generation, vs. Jordan's generation, vs. today's generation. For instance - I know that tanking games is commonplace in today's game. I also know that regular season games are borderline meaningless to many teams. I don't know if those things were true back in the Magic/Bird days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Gugny said: I definitely think Kobe is part of the conversation. I can't believe Oscar Robertson hasn't been mentioned. Also ... full disclosure - I am NOT a basketball fan, per se. I hardly watch it and I don't even have a "favorite team." I tried to embrace Brooklyn, but I just can't watch the games until it's NBA Finals time. That said - I'm sure there are rule changes, etc., that make each case different for players from Oscar Robertson's generation, vs. players from Magic/Bird's generation, vs. Jordan's generation, vs. today's generation. For instance - I know that tanking games is commonplace in today's game. I also know that regular season games are borderline meaningless to many teams. I don't know if those things were true back in the Magic/Bird days. The Big O is definitely up there. he was the first big guard who had great ball skills. He got his first assist when magic was 1 year old so that tells you how far ahead of the other big guard he was not to mention he averaged like 32, 12 bounds and 11 assists one year and was a career 26, 9 assists and 7.5 bounds for a guard he was russell Wilson before Russell Edited December 31, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 i love pistol pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: i love pistol pete Great player! by the way, No idea how he makes that shot with how hard he hits it off the glass. I wonder if backboards had more give back then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Great player! by the way, No idea how he makes that shot with how hard he hits it off the glass. I wonder if backboards had more give back then! Thats a good observation. He definitely doesn't "lay it up" lol that had some juice off the glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Thats a good observation. He definitely doesn't "lay it up" lol that had some juice off the glass If I jumped from the free throw line and tried a finger roll off the glass, that ball would hit so hard, it would be like 10 feet the other way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: If I jumped from the free throw line and tried a finger roll off the glass, that ball would hit so hard, it would be like 10 feet the other way! Touch my friend! why he is pistol Pete not stinky Pete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Pete had probably hit that shot 10,000 times in practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: Pete had probably hit that shot 10,000 times in practice Yep probably a million times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Meadowlark lemon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Helpmenow said: Meadowlark lemon That is who Wilt calls the greatest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Pete lit it up for 44 a night in college without a shot clock or 3 point shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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