Lfod Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: I think people are bringing up criminal charges because so far, nobody else is doing anything about it. Call it what you will, but literally nothing was done about it. "Offsetting penalties" canceled everything out. Poyer pushed a Pat (sound like a Dr Suess line) so that cancelled out the penalty for attacking a prone player from behind. And the Hughes mouthed off to an official, so that penalty was enforced. If these are the rules, they are idiotic. No other excuse for it. So, people want some justice. Here are the options. A) Patriots bench him for a few games (What I would do if I was the coach, but it won't happen) B) League suspends him for enough games to make it seem fair. C) Bills take him out themselves next game. D) Fans handle it in some very bad way. E) Law enforcement handles it F) Nothing happens The only two sensible outcomes are A or B, where the people with the responsibility, behave responsibly. If they do not, they are inviting one of the less civilized approaches. Since people have no confidence that A or B will happen, the next most responsible approach is E, law enforcement. It isn't a stupid idea. It is the next best responsible approach left to citizens if the ones with authority chicken out from their responsibilities. If Gronk had attacked Tre repeatedly I could see it being criminal. I think in the game of football it might be real difficult to get it that far off a cheap shot. Not that I am saying it can't happen. Edited December 4, 2017 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Lfod said: If Gronk had attacked Tre repeatedly I could see it being criminal. I think in the game of football it might be real difficult to get it that far off a cheap shot. Not that I am saying it can't happen. like I said before, get the DA to press charges, get it in front of a jury (in WNY, where this happened) and i expect it might not be real difficult to get a conviction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 52 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The Pats players take on Belicheck's personality? When does Belicheck ever get fired up like Brady or Gronk? The only player on the Pats who take after Belicheck is Gilmore. BElichick is different behind closed doors. Also, he has the greatest qb ever who is the leader of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: like I said before, get the DA to press charges, get it in front of a jury (in WNY, where this happened) and i expect it might not be real difficult to get a conviction D.A. might try taking it to court, but I dont think any judge would set precedent by allowing it to go to jury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) All I wanted for Christmas was a Tre White interception on Tom Brady. I knew it would have been ruined some how. Thanks Tre you delivered. Edited December 4, 2017 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: BElichick is different behind closed doors. Also, he has the greatest qb ever who is the leader of the team. So what's Belicheck like behind closed doors since you know? Doesn't matter about Brady, we're strictly talking about personality as in the team takes after a coach's personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 hours ago, reginald said: Not only should Gronk be suspended for the remainder of the season, he should be brought up on a "assault with a deadly weapon" charge. Look at the picture in this SI article, of Gronk, and what appears to be his metal elbow brace. The video clearly shows how he used that metal elbow brace to attack a defenseless player. Gronk purposely and knowingly slammed (using the full weight of his body) the side of the metal elbow brace directly into the back of Tre's helmet/head. He's lucky he didn't kill him. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/04/rob-gronkowski-suspension-hit-tredavious-white-themmqb-newsletter Geeze dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Opposition Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I am a lurker and Pat's fan. That being said, the hit was dirty and if he is suspended for one or two games, I won't feel aggrieved. But, this is not a criminal matter. Thw only people calling for that option to be employed are, frankly, ignorant of the law and criminal procedure. Criminal law, and the process do not work the way some people think. Slow down. You and the fans, and the team have every right to be angry. A man was hurt, unfairly. But this was not a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Loyal Opposition said: I am a lurker and Pat's fan. That being said, the hit was dirty and if he is suspended for one or two games, I won't feel aggrieved. But, this is not a criminal matter. Thw only people calling for that option to be employed are, frankly, ignorant of the law and criminal procedure. Criminal law, and the process do not work the way some people think. Slow down. You and the fans, and the team have every right to be angry. A man was hurt, unfairly. But this was not a crime. Your largesse in not being aggrieved should Gronkowski suffer the indignity of a one or two game suspension knows no bounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Opposition Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Your largesse in not being aggrieved should Gronkowski suffer the indignity of a one or two game suspension knows no bounds. I wasn't trying to be an jerk. I'll go back to lurking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Loyal Opposition said: I wasn't trying to be an jerk. I'll go back to lurking. nah join in we're all jerks here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, Loyal Opposition said: I am a lurker and Pat's fan. That being said, the hit was dirty and if he is suspended for one or two games, I won't feel aggrieved. But, this is not a criminal matter. Thw only people calling for that option to be employed are, frankly, ignorant of the law and criminal procedure. Criminal law, and the process do not work the way some people think. Slow down. You and the fans, and the team have every right to be angry. A man was hurt, unfairly. But this was not a crime. I am just a civilian so I have no special knowledge of the law. But I think how it could work would be like this: Sherriff BadLandsMeanie gets a judge to issue a bench warrant for Gronkowski for simple assault. I don't need to notify "Gronk" of that so far as I know. Next Season the Pats plane lands at Buffalo International Airport the day before the game. My Deputies greet the team and take Gronk into custody pending arraignment. And the fun ensues! They would get him out before the game probably. But it would be a laugh riot until they did. Fans could dress in orange at that game and have signs saying "Orange is the new Gronk" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, P51 said: Castration for the rest of the roster. Sounds like their daily team "Crying Hour" already accomplished that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) In addition to a suspension he should also not be allowed to wear that arm brace thing in games. He is very clearly not concerned about his arm being fragile else he would not have slammed it into a helmet as hard as he could and with all his weight. Else, I say, let's get all bills linemen and all defense secondary fitted up with them in time for the next NE game! Edited December 4, 2017 by sleeby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 A lousy, no good, stinking one game suspension. White got worse from the incident than gronk for sure; and the bills likely lose more than the Pats from it all. Eff the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, sleeby said: A lousy, no good, stinking one game suspension. White got worse from the incident than gronk for sure; and the bills likely lose more than the Pats from it all. Eff the NFL. i actually expected less than this. with that said, i think most can agree that the way the Bills responded (or didn't) is what's most disappointing (outside white's injury of course). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 What a joke 1 game and the !@#$s going to appeal it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, 87168 said: i actually expected less than this. with that said, i think most can agree that the way the Bills responded (or didn't) is what's most disappointing (outside white's injury of course). It ain't over yet. Gronk apologized and appealed. They may reduce it to just a fine. LOL Next time I hear about how this team plays for the "....tough blue-collar fans of Buffalo", I'm thinking it's just a marketing ploy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 He should be fined six figures and be suspended one game minimum. I'm all for a rule that stipulates that if you intend to injure a player and succeed, you sit out as many games as your victim. It was a cowardly act by a complete meat head and it strongly resembled roid rage ... The league should've tested him for steroids and HGH yesterday. I'm betting he'd fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 of course you cannot advertise what you are going to do , but in the game next year , in Buffalo , Gronk or Brady should have to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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