mead107 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Touch it , should of had it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It makes zero sense, none, seeing no one is behind him, to run a pattern that takes you OB at the four yard line with 20 seconds to go. None. Donald Jones was exactly right. And he should know, being an NFL WR and all. He ran a bad pattern and he tripped himself, which caused him to dive. Otherwise he walks in with an easy TD and the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 If Zay doesn't trip this board is much different. It makes zero sense, none, seeing no one is behind him, to run a pattern that takes you OB at the four yard line with 20 seconds to go. None. Donald Jones was exactly right. And he should know, being an NFL WR and all. He ran a bad pattern and he tripped himself, which caused him to dive. Otherwise he walks in with an easy TD and the win. He trips on the defender which caused him to run the route differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) This poll will be the opposite of what the experts determined. That's why fans are fans and analysts get paid. Â I voted drop, well cuz obviously... Edited September 19, 2017 by r00tabaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Can people not see? Zay trips over Thomas Davis foot as he is breaking toward the pylon. His route is off because he nearly falls. Edited September 19, 2017 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I voted drop even though I didn't think he dropped it. Â I thought he blew the pattern which caused him to have to dive for it, otherwise he walks in for an easy touchdown. That is a different concept than the two choices, IMO. Yep, I think he blew the route causing the catch to become too difficult. It also would have been nice if the ball came out a little earlier, I think. It was awkward all around, but I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it again to know for sure what I think. Â The positive part? They found a way to get him open on a play that should have won the game. I did NOT expect him to be so open back there. You have to learn to win..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 McDermott was asked about how he dealt with Jones after the game, who apparently was crying in the locker room. He told him, and apparently other players did, that the game wasn't decided on the last play and he'll make plenty of plays in his career. Â So far as I've seen, nobody was trying to make him feel better by saying Taylor should have thrown it better. Â So it sounds like Taylor put the ball where it was supposed to be and Jones didn't run the route correctly, then failed to adjust to the throw when it was in the air. In The Rockpile Review I put it on Taylor, but it sounds like it was Jones. This is exactly right. Â Only one player shouldered the blame for the play and it wasn't Tyrod. And I highly doubt Taylor would have not admitted to fault if he was to blame in any way. Â Reading between the lines, this one's on Zay and the route he ran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 The route was off, likely due to his stumble and he lost awareness for a moment until he tracked the ball. It was too late to adjust fully by then. The pass was fine, the only thing that matters is it was in the area where the defender wasn't. It's not a sandlot play exactly, but one that doesn't require a throw into a 6inch space. The WR needs to track it and be in the right area. The poll doesn't give a clear choice for a bad route , so in this case it's a drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Â Can people not see? Zay trips over Thomas Davis foot as he is breaking toward the pylon. His route is off because he nearly falls. If I ever re-watch it, I'll look for this. The whole thing just looked......off. Maybe that was it. Still, he got OPEN when that's the one thing they were trying to take away1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Â If I ever re-watch it, I'll look for this. The whole thing just looked......off. Maybe that was it. Still, he got OPEN when that's the one thing they were trying to take away1 It was a great route, which is why he was so open. He sold the post so well the safety was no where near him as he broke to the corner. Problem was as he breaks he hits Thomas Davis' back foot. You can see Davis fall also. Zay somehow keeps his balance but can't track the ball quick enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It was a great route, which is why he was so open. He sold the post so well the safety was no where near him as he broke to the corner. Problem was as he breaks he hits Thomas Davis' back foot. You can see Davis fall also. Zay somehow keeps his balance but can't track the ball quick enough. Â Thomas Davis definitely came close to a fall on the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) great view of the play...they were a tripped foot away from stealing this game  https://www.facebook.com/justin.manuele/videos/10214451746875474/ Edited September 19, 2017 by QB Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 great view of the play...they were a tripped foot away from stealing this game  https://www.facebook.com/justin.manuele/videos/10214451746875474/ Even with the stumble if he went to the pylon he wouldnt have had to leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Even with the stumble if he went to the pylon he wouldnt have had to leap. What pylon? Â Sure looks to me the route was to the front pylon not the back. Â And Jones is assuming it was a route to the back pylon not the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Throw could have been better, catch could have been better, either way we win the game, It's why you need stars at QB or WR or sometimes both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Even with the stumble if he went to the pylon he wouldnt have had to leap. Nope. He would catch it easily and walk in or be out at the 1/2 yd line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re enlightener Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Â Â Need a little of both - along with not the best route. Â The throw was a bit to far inside, Zay cut the route a bit to far toward the sidelines. Zay got both hands on the ball, but awkward - that is maybe a 50/50 catch - so a bit of a drop. Â all around a play that is just not good enough by either player. Its really neither, its tough to make those throws and catches, but if tt throws it LESS outside, it would not have even been touched by zay. Â I think zay did cut too hard to the sideline, had he just ran a little deeper to the pylon he would have walked in with a basket type catch of that ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) It was right in front of me and the catch was certainly worse than the throw. That's a play that an NFL receiver makes over 90% of the time. The throw wasn't perfect by any stretch but the catch was worse. You make a better throw than that maybe half of the time. Zay crawls in the end zone if he hangs on. Edited September 19, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It was right in front of me and the catch was certainly worse than the throw. That's a play that an NFL receiver makes over 90% of the time. The throw wasn't perfect by any stretch but the catch was worse. You make a better throw than that maybe half of the time. Zay crawls in the end zone if he hangs on.No way. That wasn't a routine catch. Anyone have a snap shot of it hitting his hands. The ball to me only touches his fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 No way. That wasn't a routine catch. Anyone have a snap shot of it hitting his hands. The ball to me only touches his fingers.I was sitting right there. He stumbled a little and just lost focus. Throw wasn't great, catch was bad. He'd be the first to say that. That is why receivers instantly started consoling him on Twitter. That's a play that he HAS to make. It would have been different if he were covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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