transplantbillsfan Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 No, this is not me saying that Taylor is better than Newton. Yes, I am anticipating a lot of folks just jumping down my throat and this thread. Try being objective for even a second today. In a vacuum, we're going to move on from our current QB after this year if our passing game doesn't vastly improve and use an arsenal of draft picks to supposedly draft our future franchise QB who will likely compete for the starting job right away with Taylor and/or Peterman. Carolina is stuck with a guy with serious accuracy issues (today was far from an anomaly for Newton), who too often only throws to WRs who are wide open (helloooooo why were they so damn wide open at those points?!) and who already seems to be getting seriously affected by all the NFL hits he's taking. The Panthers have a fantastic D. If they're a good team this year, their likely riding their Elite D all the way. Not their overrated QB. Onto the next Elite D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I think he still has injury issues affecting him. He lost his Pro Bowl center hours before the game, his security blanket Olsen during the game, was sacked 6 times and under pressure quite often, and still played a decent game. I don't think their D is that good, and certainly not elite. They have good numbers through 2 weeks because they played us and the 49ers. Let's see how they fare against the Saints and Pats in the next 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 I think he still has injury issues affecting him. He lost his Pro Bowl center hours before the game, his security blanket Olsen during the game, was sacked 6 times and under pressure quite often, and still played a decent game. I don't think their D is that good, and certainly not elite. They have good numbers through 2 weeks because they played us and the 49ers. Let's see how they fare against the Saints and Pats in the next 2 weeks. Olsen was there most of the game dude. And on top of Olsen he has an Elite WR in Benjamin, a supposedly Elite rookie hybrid in McCafferry who he flat MISSED on a wide open TD that would have made our final 2 minute drive garbage time and other WRs like Funchess who've been good in the league. And are you serious about their D? Their front 7 might be the best in football, yet we decided running on that front 7 was the best game plan even after it wasn't working for over half the game. So stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Olsen was there most of the game dude. And on top of Olsen he has an Elite WR in Benjamin, a supposedly Elite rookie hybrid in McCafferry who he flat MISSED on a wide open TD that would have made our final 2 minute drive garbage time and other WRs like Funchess who've been good in the league. And are you serious about their D? Their front 7 might be the best in football, yet we decided running on that front 7 was the best game plan even after it wasn't working for over half the game. So stupid. Olsen was OUT most of the game. He left at the beginning of the 2nd Quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 Olsen was OUT most of the game. He left at the beginning of the 2nd Quarter. Thought it was 3rd quarter. 2nd quarter. Whenever it was. Didn't much matter. He was in the game long enough where he wasn't impacting the game. And Newton had those other guys, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 He only lead his team on an 8-minute drive for the game-clinching FG in crunch time. How'd TT do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rant_and_go Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Newton was incredible. That pass on the first drive between three defenders was very good.He's very fast in his progressions and often beats his receivers. The Bills just kept everything in front of them and rushed the passer. When it got in the redzone it got tight. Game easily could have been 21-3.McCaffrey sucks. At Stanford he was bigger and faster than everyone, but in the NFL he's small and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 thier D will likely carry his team further than the bills D carries the team simply because they have the better QB. he's not overrated, he's just the better QB. the bills defense can only go as far as the offense goes and in yesterday's case, the bills only managed 3 points on offense, that's not going to get the job done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 No, this is not me saying that Taylor is better than Newton. Yes, I am anticipating a lot of folks just jumping down my throat and this thread. Try being objective for even a second today. In a vacuum, we're going to move on from our current QB after this year if our passing game doesn't vastly improve and use an arsenal of draft picks to supposedly draft our future franchise QB who will likely compete for the starting job right away with Taylor and/or Peterman. Carolina is stuck with a guy with serious accuracy issues (today was far from an anomaly for Newton), who too often only throws to WRs who are wide open (helloooooo why were they so damn wide open at those points?!) and who already seems to be getting seriously affected by all the NFL hits he's taking. The Panthers have a fantastic D. If they're a good team this year, their likely riding their Elite D all the way. Not their overrated QB. Onto the next Elite D I agree about Newton yesterday. Missed far too many very very open receivers, including the one that would have been a simple TD and ended the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 newton made the plays needed to win. he converted multiple 3rd downs with long yardage. He controlled TOP amazingly and the Bills should be embarrassed. if it weren't for the Bill's defense, the outcome would have been a blowout. he also beat McDerm, an ex couch that should be more than familiar with his ex team. a couple or errant passes doesn't make someone overrated. some members of this board have an inane hatred for newton and it's hilarious. he is now 2-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 So interesting what happens to perspective when it's not our QB. Did someone here actually use the word "incredible" for Newton's game yesterday? Incredible?! Seriously?!?! That's insanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Olsen was there most of the game dude. Yeah. With his foot in a walking boot on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Not sure why people keep insisting this about Newton when he's 2 years removed from being the league MVP and having one of the best single season and post season's ever in Carolina that year. The issue with him is that he's not 100% coming off shoulder surgery which is also why we only lost the game by 6 points and miraculously had a chance to win. Against the Broncos and certainly the Falcons it's going to be a much better story given the QB's we are facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Hey, guys. I've never heard this take before. Thought he was Superman? Superjoke. The dudes gonna get excused for an injury and maybe rightly so. But it's only funny after he realized he was playing poorly that he got banged up. Kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Cam is Cam. This team under Rivera is notorious for slow starts. The 2015 season started unimpressively also and got the to the SB. Cam seemed to miss some of the underneath stuff to McC , I noticed. This Offense and Coordinator are trying to figure out who they are and what they have. The difference/ between week one and two was noticeable. They and Cam will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Olsen was there most of the game dude. And on top of Olsen he has an Elite WR in Benjamin, a supposedly Elite rookie hybrid in McCafferry who he flat MISSED on a wide open TD that would have made our final 2 minute drive garbage time and other WRs like Funchess who've been good in the league. And are you serious about their D? Their front 7 might be the best in football, yet we decided running on that front 7 was the best game plan even after it wasn't working for over half the game. So stupid. Hmmmm. I thought many said this team could run the ball on anyone ? Look, Cam hasn't played well in awhile.He still appears to have injury issues. This doesn't erase the fact that he has been a ( deserved) league MVP and took a team to the Super Bowl with an avarage group of WR. That's being objective. I'd rather the Bills be " stuck" with Newton than any of the parade of joke QBs we've been subjected to the last 17 years. Edited September 18, 2017 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I don't think he's overrated. Any given year I'd wager he's a fringe top 10 guy allowing for swings dependent upon his health which hasn't been right the last two years. He's certainly not healthy this season. Taking a team to the Super Bowl after going 15-1 and winning NFL MVP throwing to Ted Ginn and Philly Brown is no small feat. I'd say he's pretty accurately rated by most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Olsen was there most of the game dude. And on top of Olsen he has an Elite WR in Benjamin, a supposedly Elite rookie hybrid in McCafferry who he flat MISSED on a wide open TD that would have made our final 2 minute drive garbage time and other WRs like Funchess who've been good in the league. And are you serious about their D? Their front 7 might be the best in football, yet we decided running on that front 7 was the best game plan even after it wasn't working for over half the game. So stupid. Because passing the ball was working..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Olsen was there most of the game dude. And on top of Olsen he has an Elite WR in Benjamin, a supposedly Elite rookie hybrid in McCafferry who he flat MISSED on a wide open TD that would have made our final 2 minute drive garbage time and other WRs like Funchess who've been good in the league. And are you serious about their D? Their front 7 might be the best in football, yet we decided running on that front 7 was the best game plan even after it wasn't working for over half the game. So stupid. How can you say he missed? I think the rookie ran the wrong route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Cam looks rusty, no doubt. I think he'll settle in nicely, especially as McCaffery and Samuel get comfortable. 2-0 as they figure things out is just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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