BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 So TT didnt have a below average/bad game yesterday? We were 4-11 on third down with Taylor passing. 4-6 on third down running. You be the judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 We were 4-11 on third down with Taylor passing. 4-6 on third down running. You be the judge. God your pathetic...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 God your pathetic...... You're gonna get another vacation with that kinda talk, Johnny. Step up yo game. Contribute something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 @JaySkurski Rick Dennison says "I'm happy with the way he played yesterday," regarding QB Tyrod Taylor. #Bills @ChrisBrownBills Dennison: felt Tyrod was good with his timing in passing game, even threw it away when we had to, kept us on schedule as an offense. #Bills This was my biggest positive takeaway. He played smarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Objectively? Brady, Rodgers, Ben, Brees, Rivers, Carr, Winston, Mariota, Cousins, Smith, Stafford, Luck, Wilson Subjectively? Add Wentz to the group above. Newton, Prescott, Ryan, Manning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Newton, Prescott, Ryan, Manning? I'm drunk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 It would, and it would be wrong. He got his hands on it, and didn't pull it in. Regardless of where the ball went after that, how is that not a dropped pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'm drunk! Late start today, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) We were 4-11 on third down with Taylor passing. 4-6 on third down running. You be the judge. Buffalo Bills 1st downs: 10 by rush, 11 by pass, 2 by penalty 3rd and 7 Tyrod passes for a first down 3rd and 3 Tyrod rushes for first down 3rd and Goal Tyrod throws INT 3rd and 12 Tyrod incomplete 3rd and 11 Tyrod complete for 14 yards (imo the best play of the game for TT) 3rd and 3 McCoy rush for 1st down 3rd and Goal TD to Clay 3rd and 21 Tolbert run for 3 yards 3rd and 5 Tyrod incomplete, penalty, result was a 1st down 3rd and 16 Tyrod incomplete 3rd and 9 Tyrod scrambles for 3, 4th down 3rd and 8 Tyrod rushes for first down 3rd and 2 Tyrod complete, 1st down 3rd and 9 Tyrod complete short of first 3rd and 8 Tyrod incomplete 3rd and 7 Tyrod rushes for 1st down 3rd and 17 Tyrod scrambles for 5, 4th down 3rd and 12 Tyrod kneeled Do you see a pattern? Here are some: On every 3rd down save 2 the coaches wanted the ball in TT's hands. Tyrod ran for 3 of the rushing first downs. Every single 3rd and less than 5 was converted Do you notice at the end of the game when the Bills were in rush rush pass all of the 3rd down attempts were 3rd and 7+ which has a low conversion level LEAGUE wide Context matters... Edited September 11, 2017 by section122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Buffalo Bills 1st downs: 10 by rush, 11 by pass, 2 by penalty 3rd and 7 Tyrod passes for a first down 3rd and 3 Tyrod rushes for first down 3rd and Goal Tyrod throws INT 3rd and 12 Tyrod incomplete 3rd and 11 Tyrod complete for 14 yards (imo the best play of the game for TT) 3rd and 3 McCoy rush for 1st down 3rd and Goal TD to Clay 3rd and 21 Tolbert run for 3 yards 3rd and 5 Tyrod incomplete, penalty, result was a 1st down 3rd and 16 Tyrod incomplete 3rd and 9 Tyrod scrambles for 3, 4th down 3rd and 8 Tyrod rushes for first down 3rd and 2 Tyrod complete, 1st down 3rd and 9 Tyrod complete short of first 3rd and 8 Tyrod incomplete 3rd and 7 Tyrod rushes for 1st down 3rd and 17 Tyrod scrambles for 5, 4th down 3rd and 12 Tyrod kneeled Do you see a pattern? Here are some: On every 3rd down save 2 the coaches wanted the ball in TT's hands. Tyrod ran for 3 of the rushing first downs. Every single 3rd and less than 5 was converted Do you notice at the end of the game when the Bills were in rush rush pass all of the 3rd down attempts were 3rd and 7+ which has a low conversion level LEAGUE wide Context matters... Bills were 8-17 on third down conversions. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201709100buf.htm Your data is inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 He got his hands on it, and didn't pull it in. Regardless of where the ball went after that, how is that not a dropped pass?He never got his hands on it. He was drilled in the back as soon as the ball touched his hands. Hopefully, there will be a better angle on the all-22s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Tyrod is who he is at this point. Pretty average at best QB. I don't ever see the Bills being a playoff team with him at QB.We can most certainly be playoff team with him as the QB. If our defense becomes top 10 and with a top 8 rushing team and TT playing as well as he did yesterday, we are a playoff team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Bills were 8-17 on third down conversions. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201709100buf.htm Your data is inaccurate. Just went through the play-by-play on espn. We were 9-18 on 3rd down (8-17 on plays, 1-1 on penalties). Feel free to look for yourself. I'm guessing PFR didn't count the one from a penalty as an attempt/conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 And yet, KC has gone to the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 years with Alex Smith calling signals. Riddle me that. Alex Smith is better than TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Bills were 8-17 on third down conversions. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201709100buf.htm Your data is inaccurate. I'm glad you found a link. I went through the game log and did the work myself. Look again. I have all 18 3rd down plays. Please speak to the points I made now that we know the information is correct. On every 3rd down save 2 the coaches wanted the ball in TT's hands. Tyrod ran for 3 of the rushing first downs. Every single 3rd and less than 5 was converted Do you notice at the end of the game when the Bills were in rush rush pass all of the 3rd down attempts were 3rd and 7+ which has a low conversion level LEAGUE wide Context matters... The 21 first downs obviously didn't all come on 3rd down (I believe this is what you think is incorrect) as they converted 8 of them for first downs. By the way that 8 for 17 which is 47.1% is currently 7th best in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Alex Smith is better than TT Oh my God, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Just went through the play-by-play on espn. We were 9-18 on 3rd down (8-17 on plays, 1-1 on penalties). Feel free to look for yourself. I'm guessing PFR didn't count the one from a penalty as an attempt/conversion. Yup if he went through my post he would have seen that is exactly what I did as well. Also they were 5 for 7 to start the game. They stopped converting when they went into their shell and started the run run pass. Alex Smith is better than TT I actually think Alex Smith is the best player comp for TT. Edited September 11, 2017 by section122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Oh my God, yes. And yet if you put Alex Smith on the Bills the last two years with the WRs injuries, and coaching and horrid defense, he doesn't play as well. Probably worse than TT. And if you put TT on the Chiefs the last couple years with the good coaching and great defense he probably plays a little better than he did on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Alex Smith is better than TT Indisputably. I'm glad you found a link. I went through the game log and did the work myself. Look again. I have all 18 3rd down plays. Please speak to the points I made now that we know the information is correct. On every 3rd down save 2 the coaches wanted the ball in TT's hands. Tyrod ran for 3 of the rushing first downs. Every single 3rd and less than 5 was converted Do you notice at the end of the game when the Bills were in rush rush pass all of the 3rd down attempts were 3rd and 7+ which has a low conversion level LEAGUE wide Context matters... The 21 first downs obviously didn't all come on 3rd down (I believe this is what you think is incorrect) as they converted 8 of them for first downs. By the way that 8 for 17 which is 47.1% is currently 7th best in the NFL. While that's true, Tyrod didn't deliver when passing. He's the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I just looked at more stats. The 23 first downs the Bills had were good for 5th in the league. The 11 passing first downs tied for 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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