BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 And yet if you put Alex Smith on the Bills the last two years with the WRs injuries, and coaching and horrid defense, he doesn't play as well. Probably worse than TT. And if you put TT on the Chiefs the last couple years with the good coaching and great defense he probably plays a little better than he did on the Bills. That's certainly your opinion, but I don't agree. Alex Smith is a better QB/passer than TT and that difference shakes out in the W-L every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Indisputably. While that's true, Tyrod didn't deliver when passing. He's the QB. Trolololololo Every single 3rd and less than 5 was converted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Trolololololo Every single 3rd and less than 5 was converted Every third and 1 or less when the moon was in the seventh house was converted. What are you trying to prove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Every third and 1 or less when the moon was in the seventh house was converted. What are you trying to prove? The 3rd downs you are using as a barometer for TT not playing well were all 3rd and long. Which has a very low conversion percentage across the NFL. The Bills as a team both passing and total were in the top half of the NFL in conversion. The Bills did very well converting 3rd downs when they weren't in a shell and running clock. Edited September 11, 2017 by section122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 And yet if you put Alex Smith on the Bills the last two years with the WRs injuries, and coaching and horrid defense, he doesn't play as well. Probably worse than TT. And if you put TT on the Chiefs the last couple years with the good coaching and great defense he probably plays a little better than he did on the Bills. FWIW, Here's PFF on the both of them: 21. Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo Bills2015 PFF Grade/Rank: 86.0/12 2016 PFF Grade/Rank: 83.2/13 PFF Elite stat to know: Taylor’s 10 touchdown passes under pressure last year ranked fourth in the NFL. 22. Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs2015 PFF Grade/Rank: 81.3/17 2016 PFF Grade/Rank: 82.0/14 PFF Elite stat to know: Smith threw 66.7 percent of his passes in under 2.5 seconds or less in 2016, most in the NFL, while his average time to attempt of 2.25 was also the quickest in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The 3rd downs you are using as a barometer for TT not playing well were all 3rd and long. Which has a very low conversion percentage across the NFL. The Bills as a team both passing and total were in the top half of the NFL in conversion. The Bills did very well converting 3rd downs when they weren't in a shell and running clock. Well long is relative. 3rd and 6 ain't that long. They did all require him to pass, that's true. And he sucked at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Well long is relative. 3rd and 6 ain't that long. They did all require him to pass, that's true. And he sucked at that. Sucked compared to what? He's top half to top 10 in essentially every relevant passing category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I'm with 3). In Game 15 last year, I thought he looked like he might be taking a step, yesterday looked like a positive continuation of Game 15 vs the "3 steps back" terrible preseason. Clay has got to f***ing catch that ball. If he can't catch it, he has to f***ing bat it out of bounds. That's what TEs being paid $4.5M with a $20M bonus on the books are expected to do. Phenomenal athlete Tom Savage sucked yesterday. Phenomenal athlete Andy Dalton sucked yesterday. Point being, we do judge NFL athletes on their performance as NFL athletes, not relative to what Armchair Arthur or Coors Lite Charlie could do. That said, you are correct on all points about Taylor and the post to whom you're responding. You're correct. Watch the film & you will see that Clay was moving to the right and the pass was at his left ear instead of a perfect throw. Big deal . Catch the damn ball. Clay had a couple of nice plays but overall his game was below his usual standard. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Sucked compared to what? He's top half to top 10 in essentially every relevant passing category. eh I figured it out a couple of posts ago he's simply trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) And yet if you put Alex Smith on the Bills the last two years with the WRs injuries, and coaching and horrid defense, he doesn't play as well. Probably worse than TT. And if you put TT on the Chiefs the last couple years with the good coaching and great defense he probably plays a little better than he did on the Bills. That is a lot of assumptions. I think an Alex Smith who doesn't play as well is still better than a Tyrod Taylor who plays a little better. Edited September 11, 2017 by Gugny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Sucked compared to what? He's top half to top 10 in essentially every relevant passing category. Well Alex Smith was 3/8 on third down conversions passing versus a much better defense. Let's start with being better than Alex Smith. eh I figured it out a couple of posts ago he's simply trolling. "Anyone who disagrees with me is trolling." Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Well Alex Smith was 3/8 on third down conversions passing versus a much better defense. Let's start with being better than Alex Smith. "Anyone who disagrees with me is trolling." Lol. Literally no QB in the NFL was better than Alex Smith this week. So your expectations are to have the #1 QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Well Alex Smith was 3/8 on third down conversions passing versus a much better defense. Let's start with being better than Alex Smith. "Anyone who disagrees with me is trolling." Lol. 3 for 8 is 37% 4 for 11 is 36.36% This is why I think you are trolling. Your opinions don't reflect reality and the stats from the game or compared to other players. Those who purposely ignore facts and evidence to post contrarian things are trolling. Edited September 11, 2017 by section122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Well Alex Smith was 3/8 on third down conversions passing versus a much better defense. Let's start with being better than Alex Smith. "Anyone who disagrees with me is trolling." Lol. No its not even that....disagreement is fine. But your in the fricken stratosphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 for 8 is 37% 4 for 11 is 36.36% This is why I think you are trolling. Your opinions don't reflect reality and the stats from the game or compared to other players. Those who purposely ignore facts and evidence to post contrarian things are trolling. Did you just post the factual numbers and evidence that he was inferior to Alex Smith? And then accuse ME of trolling when I called him inferior to Alex Smith because it's contrary to reality? Hilarious. Your opinions are bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 He never got his hands on it. He was drilled in the back as soon as the ball touched his hands. Hopefully, there will be a better angle on the all-22s. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Literally no QB in the NFL was better than Alex Smith this week. So your expectations are to have the #1 QB? No. Of course not. I would never expect TT to be better than Alex Smith. Because Alex Smith is clearly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 ???What's your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Did you just post the factual numbers and evidence that he was inferior to Alex Smith? And then accuse ME of trolling when I called him inferior to Alex Smith because it's contrary to reality? Hilarious. Your opinions are bad. No. Of course not. I would never expect TT to be better than Alex Smith. Because Alex Smith is clearly better. Thanks for the entertainment and making the end of the day go by. I hope your next attempts aren't as obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Thanks for the entertainment and making the end of the day go by. I hope your next attempts aren't as obvious I feel like you're just repeating yourself. You're afraid of the reality. It's okay. One more year of TT and the CoT dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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