3rdand12 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/kaelin-clay?id=2552651 OVERVIEWPlayed one year at Utah after transferring from Mt. San Antonio Junior College where he was named first-team all-conference with 16 touchdowns. Made four, different All-American teams as a return specialist in 2014 with Utah and was named First-team All-Pac 12 as a return specialist. Finished season with a punt return average of 15.0 and three touchdowns while returning one kick for a touchdown and a 24.9 average. Signed with Cal out of Long Beach Poly HS. Redshirted in 2010 and left the program for academic reasons according to then head coach Jeff Tedford. Played running back and receiver his senior season of high school and finished third in the state in the 100M and sixth in the 200M in 2010. Video of Clay releasing a sure touchdown before crossing the end zone against Oregon went viral in 2014.ANALYSIS STRENGTHS Very good straight-line speed. Decorated sprinter in high school. Stepped up and showed improvement in his lone season at Utah after teammate Dres Anderson's season-ending knee injury. Able to make first defender miss in space. When given a shot to play vertically, took advantage by winning over the top twice against Oregon. One of the more dangerous return men in college football as both punt returner and kick returner. Posted three punt return touchdowns and a 100 yard kickoff return this year. Has great feel for keeping kick returns on their designed track and slashing at the right time. Had disastrous "fumble" against Oregon when he released ball before crossing the plain of the goal line, where Oregon picked it up and went other way for a touchdown. Bounced back from that and showed mental toughness. WEAKNESSES Smaller receiver with very limited catch radius. Had four drops this season, including focus drops when trying to make catch near the sideline. Hips don't open much causing short, tight strides and flatness with some of his routes. Lacks sudden feet to gain expected separation on outs. Film filled with hitches, bubble screens and short outs and lacking in more route sophistication. Upright into his breaks and out of them. Started at Cal, but left the program to "improve his academic situation", according to then coach Jeff Tedford. BOTTOM LINE Slot receiver lacking suddenness to get open against man coverage underneath, but with a second gear to find separation on deep throws. Clay's size and playmaking ability as a receiver aren?t going to do much for most teams, but his return ability gives him a shot at making a team. TY for the detailed overview. Not delighted with the facts but glad to gain knowledge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'd have rather just had a 6th rounder and let them keep their useless bum receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Yeah a pine cone is significantly cheaper than Watkins too. LOL'd great laugh right there Elite ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Reasonable people realized that the offense wasn't as good as numbers might indicate. it was pretty good most of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Oh mudge. Oops wrong thread. seems we are becoming a fun bunch after all !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Sure. Looks at the Carolina Roster for other Future Bills playersi ... expected that? Any team that brings over coaches and personnel execs from another NFL team is going to see some of this, especially with bottom of the roster players. They have no starters from Carolina. They have some depth players. 3, total, that I can think of. Out of 53. Why is it such a big deal? Edited September 2, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) TY for the detailed overview. Not delighted with the facts but glad to gain knowledge! You're welcome. Catches of 58 yards (TD - EDIT: I guess he was called down by contact, but still a deep ball) and 33 yards this preseason, so maybe there's something there. Gives us some semblance of that deep threat many claim we lack (although he ran a 4.51). Edited September 2, 2017 by JohnBonhamRocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY315 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) From a couple days ago https://twitter.com/NFL/status/903421387779391489 Edited September 2, 2017 by CNY315 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 LOL I love when a regime trades away talent for ****. Worst team in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 If he's a better deep threat than Percy Harvins, that will be a bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 LOL I love when a regime trades away talent for ****. Worst team in the NFL. ummm Seymour is a "talent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 No way a Panther player. AND another Slot WR. Awesome I am just glad I get to see you cry and whine some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 He should have fed the damn plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 It's not unreasonable to be frustrated and confused as to what is going on. We have a rookie GM/Coach overhauling an NFL roster... without a proven track record it's easy to be concerned, especially when they say they expect to compete for a playoff position. I hope they are right, just like I hope every single season. But i'm getting old and tired of it all.When an organization has had its roots yanked out and completely redone from the scouting department, trainers, GM, management coaches and players it's natural that there will be resistance, frustration and confusion from fans. People are creatures of habit and there is comfort with familiarity. These guys have the mandate to build this organization from the bottom up the way they they want to envision it. I'm not endorsing or criticizing their decisions until the final product of these actions play out. But what I do endorse is the fact that they are doing it their way. No half pregnant approach, no melding of philosophies, this is all on them. For too long we've had new coaches come in with tinkering of the edges approach. I always thought that in order to turn this organization around that wholesale changes were going to be needed to be made. These guys may fail, these decisions may be terrible, but I will reasonably make my judgement after the decisions play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 ummm Seymour is a "talent"? Quiet he's on a roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 We got a pick, but I really like Seymour. I don't get that trade. Seymour is a solid CB. me too, but trust the process. He likely really isn't that good. even with his glasses on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 ummm Seymour is a "talent"? Here's a decent 3rd/4th CB. Clay is awful. Quiet he's on a roll Lol I love trading for guys who won't make a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 If he's a better deep threat than Percy Harvins, that will be a bonus So, if he's not hiding in a dark room or on IR..... I wonder if Clay is the new Williams? I mean, every regime has their own preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 It's not unreasonable to be frustrated and confused as to what is going on. We have a rookie GM/Coach overhauling an NFL roster... without a proven track record it's easy to be concerned, especially when they say they expect to compete for a playoff position. I hope they are right, just like I hope every single season. But i'm getting old and tired of it all. Tough balancing act for us fans, i agree 100%. Being patient has got us Fans nowhere. And now, we really do need to be patient and let the New Era get its footing and build to its vision. My 2 /12 grandson has Bills gear somehow ; ) I have hope for him to be enjoy being a fan of an organization that comptes each year. For me and you, tough row to hoe. again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 When an organization has had its roots yanked out and completely redone from the scouting department, trainers, GM, management coaches and players it's natural that there will be resistance, frustration and confusion from fans. People are creatures of habit and there is comfort with familiarity. These guys have the mandate to build this organization from the bottom up the way they they want to envision it. I'm not endorsing or criticizing their decisions until the final product of these actions play out. But what I do endorse is the fact that they are doing it their way. No half pregnant approach, no melding of philosophies, this is all on them. For too long we've had new coaches come in with tinkering of the edges approach. I always thought that in order to turn this organization around that wholesale changes were going to be needed to be made. These guys may fail, these decisions may be terrible, but I will reasonably make my judgement after the decisions play out. I don't disagree with you. However, I'm skeptical of their statements that we are expecting to be a playoff contender, if you are rebuilding from the ground up, tell it like it is. Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. That's all. I'll give them a chance, i always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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