26CornerBlitz Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 He is a converted DL so still learning. Still learning? He's been bad since leaving FSU and he has played OL since 2012. How much time does he need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I get the intrigue here but he's been downright tragic every place they have tried to play him on the line. Is he a better fit for our scheme or something? he might be their worst player How far has this team fallen if the Browns worst player could be a starter for us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) How far has this team fallen if the Browns worst player could be a starter for us ?well... for one, he couldn't be. He's not a serviceable NFL player. I'm sorry. It has nothing to with the Bills. Anything would be an upgrade from Cam Erving. A rock would be a better pick-up. He is a converted DL so still learning.at this point I recommend home schooling Edited August 29, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 well... for one, he couldn't be. He's not a serviceable NFL player. I'm sorry. It has nothing to with the Bills. Anything would be an upgrade from Cam Erving. A rock would be a better pick-up. at this point I recommend home schooling I'll take your word Yolo since I think you're in the know about this. No to Irving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) I'll take your word Yolo since I think you're in the know about this. No to Irving! maybe I'm being too harsh. I'll take him for a 2033 7th rounder. Edited August 29, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 For those who want to trade picks to Cleveland for Erving, don't we need as many picks as possible to trade up for a QB next April? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 How far has this team fallen if the Browns worst player could be a starter for us ? For those who want to trade picks to Cleveland for Erving, don't we need as many picks as possible to trade up for a QB next April? Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Erving has been terrible at every position he has been tried at - he's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Not only that but has position flexibility with OT/OG and that is something you absolutely have to look for in the OL anymore I agree Bobby. If this is true I make the phone call. But I also address them taking Dareus with all their cap room lol. Seriously though I call about this kid Still learning? He's been bad since leaving FSU and he has played OL since 2012. How much time does he need? Tyrod has had 7 years so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I would definately pick him up if cut. And only then. He will need a year, but RT is his natural position. Im not saavy enough to provide links, but read an article by Dawg Pound Daily...02/04/17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Kansas City got him for a 2018 5th rounder. Man they're really selling out the future for the present... I wouldn't like it if I was a KC fan. The Ragland trade I'd be fine with but trading a 1st to move up for Mahomes, and giving away a 5th for a total bust, would concern me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Kansas City got him for a 2018 5th rounder. Man they're really selling out the future for the present... I wouldn't like it if I was a KC fan. The Ragland trade I'd be fine with but trading a 1st to move up for Mahomes, and giving away a 5th for a total bust, would concern me. Hey, I like this trade by them! If they actually play him it could help push that 1st that they sent us a bit higher in the draft. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Browns fans think he's a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 @MockingTheDraft Browns picks in the 2018 NFL Draft 1. 1. (via Hou) 2. 2. (via Hou) 2. (via Phi) 3. 4. 4. (via Car) 5. 5. (via KC) 6. 6. (via Pitt) 7. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Burn, Chefs, Burn {crackle, crackle} This is the heist of the century. Who is the drunk guy making trades in KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Confused about John Miller. Doubled his PFF score last year, vasty improving in his second year which was relatively injury free. Is it Dennison and Castillo asking too much of him? Effort? Skill? 2015 overall grade: 38.7 2016 overall grade: 77.8 Now firmly entrenched as the Bills’ starting RG, Miller’s rookie season was one to forget, plagued by nagging injuries that had an effect on his play, in particular his run blocking. Bills running backs averaged only 3.9 yards per carry rushing in his direction, and his run-blocking grade ranked 84th among guards, with Miller perhaps struggling to adjust to such a diverse rushing attack. He turned it around in 2016, however, shooting up to 24th among guards in terms of PFF grade as a run blocker, missing only 18 snaps. Overall, he made the step up to a solid, dependable player, with his grade improving from a dismal 38.7 to 77.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Beane is asleep! Quick offer Ducasse for their 2019 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Traded to KC for a fifth. Damn, don't want them getting better. Edited August 30, 2017 by buffaloboyinATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Traded to KC for a fifth. Damn, don't want them getting better. Luckily this makes them worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 This might be a case of Bills fans overvaluing other teams mediocrity. The reason he has moved around the Browns line so much the last two seasons and this off-season is because he hasn't really played all that well at any position.I am not so sure he would be any better than Miller who I think is not as bad as a lot of people here would believe. I would give up much more than a 7th or 6th round pick for this guy. I wouldn't trade anything much for a guy who has shuffled around the line of the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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