Figster Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) LMAO he won't lose the team. If he loses the team its because the players are weak. Trades happen all the time, don't want to be here then speak up and beane will ship your ass out. it is WAY PAST TIME for this to be happening at OBD. Now I feel much better about this team going forward with how its being ran now. Way past time to be out of control? Did you even watch the last 2 seasons under Ryan? the penalties???? Edited August 14, 2017 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meazy26 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 You're joking, right? Fighting and scrapping after plays shows me a mentally weak team that has no focus. It's the exact reason that teams like NE and NYG got Rex's Buffalo teams to commit 15+ penalties and literally hand them the field position battle. Sure, play pissed off from the snap to the whistle if that's what you need to do; maintaining focus and discipline at all other times is what prevents giving away games with penalties. It's been 17 years of the same crap. I welcome the change. I think this will pull the team closer together. Sometimes you gotta punch your brother in the mouth (maybe not literally). Each side of the ball needs to know that each guy is willing to fight for one another. It's practice, of course I don't want them playing undisciplined during the game. I'm just happy that they're showing some passion out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 LMAO he won't lose the team. If he loses the team its because the players are weak. Trades happen all the time, don't want to be here then speak up and beane will ship your ass out. it is WAY PAST TIME for this to be happening at OBD. Now I feel much better about this team going forward with how its being ran now. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 You're joking, right? Fighting and scrapping after plays shows me a mentally weak team that has no focus. It's the exact reason that teams like NE and NYG got Rex's Buffalo teams to commit 15+ penalties and literally hand them the field position battle. Sure, play pissed off from the snap to the whistle if that's what you need to do; maintaining focus and discipline at all other times is what prevents giving away games with penalties. Gilmore and Edelman fought and were removed after practice last week. I wouldn't say NE is mentally weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 That's right jerry.... focus the rage... it's all the QBs fault. They are all out for you. Get em jerry before they get you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Gilmore and Edelman fought and were removed after practice last week. I wouldn't say NE is mentally weak. one scrap is a little different and happens all the time IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 so...because there's a fight in practice, the team is mentally weak? i get that some are bothered by the trades, but this is trying far too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 But I think you're taking it too far. This is the first camp for McD, first time with these guys and vice versa. Players get chippy, things get heated....they're tired of hitting their own teammates and I'm sure the trade is still on their minds to a certain extent. If this was a common occurrence, I'd be worried, but it's not. How McD handles it will tell us whether or not he has the team's attention. Also, many of these players had an undisciplined head coach the past two years.....I don't care if Coughlin was the HC, it'd be hard for any coach to come in here and not encounter these types of issues. I'm unsure what I wrote that makes you think I'm taking anything too far. When adversity hits is precisely when focus matters; anyone can be focused when things are hunky dory. My response was to the poster that was apparently pleased with the scrappiness. Saying that it's understandable is one thing; lauding it as something long-missing from the team's mentality is another. It's incorrect, and the trait itself is counter-productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 one scrap is a little different and happens all the time IMO How many times has it happened this year with the Bills? Edelman and Gilmore isn't the only time NE has had fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) It's been 17 years of the same crap. I welcome the change. I think this will pull the team closer together. Sometimes you gotta punch your brother in the mouth (maybe not literally). Each side of the ball needs to know that each guy is willing to fight for one another. It's practice, of course I don't want them playing undisciplined during the game. I'm just happy that they're showing some passion out there. See my point above. Gilmore and Edelman fought and were removed after practice last week. I wouldn't say NE is mentally weak. It's different if it's an apparent isolated incident in practice. By all accounts, this practice has been rife with fights, a player mouthing off to a coach, etc. That's a systemic lack of focus all-around. You read about one incident with Edelman and Gilmore; you certainly did not read about either of the offending players mouthing off to Belichick or Matt Patricia. Edited August 14, 2017 by thebandit27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 It's all starting to come together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 @SalSports Here's play-by-play of all the scrums I saw at Bills' practice today. Will be included in full practice notes later: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills757 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) I'm unsure what I wrote that makes you think I'm taking anything too far. When adversity hits is precisely when focus matters; anyone can be focused when things are hunky dory. My response was to the poster that was apparently pleased with the scrappiness. Saying that it's understandable is one thing; lauding it as something long-missing from the team's mentality is another. It's incorrect, and the trait itself is counter-productive. I think, ultimately, whether or not it's beneficial to the team will be based on how McD handles it, and, how the players respond....not just in a press conference or interview but on the field. We'll see I guess. And maybe, just maybe, McD's practicing a little psychology on the team just to see how they respond. I'm fairly confident he knows what he's doing when he chewed their butts before hand. Edited August 14, 2017 by Bills757 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 How many times has it happened this year with the Bills? Edelman and Gilmore isn't the only time NE has had fights. two if I remember correctly, without going back and looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 It can't be considered a good thing that players are arguing. But at the same time it isn't necessarily doom and gloom either. It's 1 morning training camp practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Good. This tells me the coaches are pushing the players to be better. They may not like it now because they aren't use to hard work. Much better than Rex taking them for splatball and ice cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Do you realize how close McD might be right now from losing the team? but don't worry, be Happy... Not at all, this kind of stuff happens at Patriots practice all the time. BB sends the players home to cool off and no one is worse off for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Not at all, this kind of stuff happens at Patriots practice all the time. BB sends the players home to cool off and no one is worse off for it. What happened today? Not that I'm aware of, but I don't pay that close attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 See my point above. It's different if it's an apparent isolated incident in practice. By all accounts, this practice has been rife with fights, a player mouthing off to a coach, etc. That's a systemic lack of focus all-around. You read about one incident with Edelman and Gilmore; you certainly did not read about either of the offending players mouthing off to Belichick or Matt Patricia. Yeah there was a lot of fights but just a few years ago, the Pats and Bears got into it big time in a scrimmage. It was with another team but doesn't that give evidence of a "systematic lack of focus"? Yeah Hughes probably couldn't play for Belicheck because he's undisciplined. But this isn't the first time a player as mouthed of...especially with Hughes. It's not right but it happens. Even Ray Lewis had issues with Billick and Big Ben with his coaching staff as early as last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Too bad the light bulb itself is pretty dim. Oh that's not right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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