26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 One question has Sean and Brandon had any wins or losses in any season for the Buffalo Bills other than this season? Did Sean or Brandon draft any picks for the Bills prior to the current year they hsve been established as the FO? Did Brandon or Sean ever work in any role with the Bills prior than taking on their current roles? Fid Sean or Brandon ever call into toa rogue coirdinator plays that would be of detriment yo the Bills? Covered all the bases. They sre brand new here. They have nothing to do with the Whaley trash, Nix trash, or any other trash prior to them. Facts are awesome. "Facts dont care about your feelings". That's the part of your post that is hilarious and highly ironic given how often you ignore facts presented to you by other posters that run counter to your POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 "Facts dont care about your feelings". That's the part of your post that is hilarious and highly ironic given how often you ignore facts presented to you by other posters that run counter to your POV. I have not disregarded any fact that was a fact to which a poster has presented as a counter. The problem is there isnt a hole lot of facts being presented as fact. Potential isnt fact. Basing a pecking order iff of potential rather than production isnt a fact. Hope isnt a fact. Willing something to fruition isnt a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I'm not sure who debated otherwise? You've said that his opinions were "completely wrong." Comedy, right there...is he serious? No, he's not serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I have not disregarded any fact that was a fact to which a poster has presented as a counter. The problem is there isnt a hole lot of facts being presented as fact. Potential isnt fact. Basing a pecking order iff of potential rather than production isnt a fact. Hope isnt a fact. Willing something to fruition isnt a fact. No, he's not serious. You are right Bandit. He can't possibly be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 You are right Bandit. He can't possibly be serious. Like I said, he's good at what he does...it took me a long time to catch on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 DEAD WRONG. The owner remains the same. Has Ralph come back from the grave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) You are right Bandit. He can't possibly be serious. Show me a fact that i have disregarded.Ill wait. You cant. Doesnt matter if you have a little click together or not. Sammy is gone. All he has/had was potential as of today. Edited August 17, 2017 by Bill_with_it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Would love to have Sammy back. Odds are small of course. I would say this though. He and his other WR draft classmates making noise about how they're going to reset the value for WRs and their talk about wanting to be like NBA contracts? They're in for a shock. GMs and owners aren't going to break the bank for WR. QBs, OTs, DE/pass rushers are still the guys that will be prioritized. WR's probably fourth on the list so they'll do well, but it's not like all of a sudden WRs are going to be highest paid players on a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 No matter what, he'll also be a year older! Fuggatt about it.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Show me a fact that i have disregarded. Ill wait. You cant. Doesnt matter if you have a little click together or not. Sammy is gone. All he has/had was potential as of today. It's clique dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I know it sounds crazy. However just think. There are many ways this can become a reality. Sammy may show flashes but not be able to produce at no fault of his own. Qb play may hurt him this season. The Bills now have multiple picks to draft their qb of the future. Matthews, and the rest of the receivers along with Tyrod may not fit the bill and it may make things harder on McCoy. With a qb in place and Shady playing at a high level with Sammy on the outside, you never know. My idea is also wishful thinking. Miss Sammy already. Right. The Rams are just going to let him walk. Yes getting a long term deal or the franchise tag. Lets get out of fantasy land...this isn't Madden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 The only way Sammy comes back to Buffalo is with another team playing the Bills. Did you see the smile on his face during his first interview in LA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 The skepticism being exhibited toward the new regime is very understandable. It just traded one of the top receivers in the league for an unremarkable DB and a draft pick. But the lamenting response by some as if this transaction was a stunning surprise doesn't correspond to the situation. It was apparent (at least to me) that when a tender was not offered to Watkins that it was a clear indication that he wasn't in the organization's long term plans. You more than anyone else advocated for not taking a qb in this year's draft in order to wait to see if TT can make the leap into legitimacy or draft a qb in the next draft class where you found it to be richer and deeper. So now when the new regime maneuvers to better position itself to select an authentic franchise qb you express grave doubts. What the Bills are doing is exactly what you called for! I believe that Watkins is one of the top receiver talents in the league. But the situation in Buffalo as it stands would never allow him to fulfill his potential. As I have stated before even with the acknowledgement of his exceptional talent because of the caliber of qbing and the design of the offense the production level would not be much diminished without the talented receiver. The Bills are rebuilding the roster through the draft. The quickest way to do it is to have many draft chips in the bucket. That's exactly what is now being done. Whaley added talent while McDermott is building a more coherent roster. I believe that McDermott is taking a more conceptual and smarter approach to building a roster. I have never been a fawning devotee and unquestioning stooge of this failed franchise. What is going on here is a refreshing change from the incremental and short-sighted approach that this franchise has historically taken. They traded a player with the potential to be one of the top receivers in the game, but who has only shown flashes of it, for whatever reasons. And they likely felt that he would continue to just show flashes of it, which didn't make it worth paying him huge dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Show me a fact that i have disregarded. Ill wait. You cant. Doesnt matter if you have a little click together or not. Sammy is gone. All he has/had was potential as of today. I'm not going to bother going back through that long thread on the trade. You disregarded a bunch of facts there. There's a reason that a bunch of people are saying one thing and you the other. I'm going to take a different route and use the block function for the 2nd time since I've been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 The Yankees did it with Chapman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I'm not going to bother going back through that long thread on the trade. You disregarded a bunch of facts there. There's a reason that a bunch of people are saying one thing and you the other. I'm going to take a different route and use the block function for the 2nd time since I've been here.Use the block function 100 times I dont care. Stop spewing lies. If you had examples of me disregarding facts without apologizing you would use them. You dont. Its a poor attempt in an argument. A bunch of fervent Sammy Watkins supporters arguing potential versus produced viable stats relevant to the long term benefit of the team? Gee who would have thought? They traded a player with the potential to be one of the top receivers in the game, but who has only shown flashes of it, for whatever reasons. And they likely felt that he would continue to just show flashes of it, which didn't make it worth paying him huge dollars.Bunch of posters need to read this post slowly and pay particluar attention to each word. Then read it as a sentence. Would be beneficial for the overall discussions with regard to Sammy in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Use the block function 100 times I dont care. Stop spewing lies. If you had examples of me disregarding facts without apologizing you would use them. You dont. Its a poor attempt in an argument. A bunch of fervent Sammy Watkins supporters arguing potential versus produced viable stats relevant to the long term benefit of the team? Gee who would have thought? Bunch of posters need to read this post slowly and pay particluar attention to each word. Then read it as a sentence. Would be beneficial for the overall discussions with regard to Sammy in the future. Can you please copy and paste the clip when he told the media this? https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/195196-bills-trade-sammy-watkins-to-rams-for-cb-gaines-2nd-rd-pick/?p=4464843 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 "Facts dont care about your feelings". That's the part of your post that is hilarious and highly ironic given how often you ignore facts presented to you by other posters that run counter to your POV. kond of like the facts that Jordan Mathews has produced more in this league over the same period of time as Sammy Watkins? The fact that Sammy would be a FA at the end of the year and you could lose him for nothing? Or the fact that Sammy Watkins has consistently been hurt or injured? Facts are a rough thing. I get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) kond of like the facts that Jordan Mathews has produced more in this league over the same period of time as Sammy Watkins? The fact that Sammy would be a FA at the end of the year and you could lose him for nothing? Or the fact that Sammy Watkins has consistently been hurt or injured? Facts are a rough thing. I get it Facts: Matthews has accumulated more numbers as a result of playing in 9 more games. Matthews will be a FA at the end of this year. Sammy outproduced Matthews is the 1st two seasons of their respective careers. Players get hurt just like Matthews is now. Sammy is by far the more talented and dynamic game changing player by the numbers. Edited August 17, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000830633/article/sammy-watkins-already-turning-heads-on-la-rams Sammy Watkins already turning heads on L.A. Rams "I did a little bit," quarterback Jared Goff said when asked if he noticed Watkins' first head-turning catch this week, via the OC Register. "You try not to, but I did kind of turn around, like, 'Everyone see that? All right.' It was a good catch and hopefully something that won't be quite a surprise any more." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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