ALF Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) If Matthews and Gaines are both healthy and good starters I'd be ok with the trades. Having Boldin for a year or two makes a difference also. I guess Darby was more man coverage and Gaines more zone like McD wants ? Still without Gilmore and Darby looks risky for now. Edited August 12, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yes and No. I defininitely don't like it this year. Next year though, I think I'm going to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Although it's hard to stomach It was probably a good move for the future. I'm more so relieved to see the powers that be make decisions based on their expertise on making the team relevant instead of making moves to sell tickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Although it's hard to stomach It was probably a good move for the future. I'm more so relieved to see the powers that be make decisions based on their expertise on making the team relevant instead of making moves to sell tickets Yep. No doubt at all now that Russ Brandon isn't involved in the football operations anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yep. No doubt at all now that Russ Brandon isn't involved in the football operations anymore. THANK CHRIST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 @adamschefter Rams GM Les Snead said LA is interested in signing WR Sammy Watkins to a long-term contract, though the two sides are yet to discuss a deal. Looks like they see him as more then a rental. I hope that they do. I would hate to have Sammy end up in New England or something haunting us for years. Just stay in the NFC West where we only have to see him every 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Darby has shown the potential to be great. Had a down year last year, but he has been a top 10 CB before. We get back a CB coming off of the same injury as Watkins. It's taking a flier on a guy and get a 2nd. Watkins is a potential superstar in this league and is a clear cut #1 WR. We get back a WR who was 4th on the depth chart in Philly and has reportedly battled knee issues to "replace" him along with a 3rd. The picks are nice as we now have two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds in 2018, but none of that means who we get will be upgrades. Matthews could also be just a rental as he is a FA at the end of the year. Darby doesn't bother me as much as shipping out Watkins. Darby for a 3rd and Matthews, even if it is a rental, was a quality trade when you look at it from top to bottom. Watkins, who is a true #1 WR, for a CB coming off of the same injury as him and a 2nd? That's the one that gets me. You all can try to argue it however you want, but I don't like it. We created another hole and our talent level dropped. Now none of us know anything that had gone on behind the scenes and it is possible they escalated to what we saw yesterday. That's the only thing that would make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 The Rams 2nd rounder is the 37th pick. That gives the Bills what essentially amounts to three first-round picks in the 2018 draft, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'm in the undecided group, but at this point, I think I'm OK with everything. How's that for a half assed answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 THANK CHRIST. Pegs must be real pleased with Russ these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'm in the undecided group, but at this point, I think I'm OK with everything. How's that for a half assed answer? Half assed is better than all ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Beans mentioned resign ability. If I didn't think I would be able to keep Watkins after this season, absolutely make the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 The Rams 2nd rounder is the 37th pick. That gives the Bills what essentially amounts to three first-round picks in the 2018 draft, Hell, ours is likely top 40ish at this point, may as well call it 4 first rounders if just making up fun things to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'm good with the Darby trade, I'm not good with the Watkins trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 The Rams 2nd rounder is the 37th pick. That gives the Bills what essentially amounts to three first-round picks in the 2018 draft, Where are you getting these numbers ? Assuming rams will stink ? Not gonna improve w Sammy and Woods as opposed to Tavon Austin and the poo poo platter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Beans mentioned resign ability. If I didn't think I would be able to keep Watkins after this season, absolutely make the trade. Which is a huge reason why I'm sure they did it. With Watkins, it's sll about health and the ability to re-sign. We can only assume they were uncomfortable on both fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Hell, ours is likely top 40ish at this point, may as well call it 4 first rounders if just making up fun things to say Ok smarty. 3 picks in the first 37 spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Where are you getting these numbers ? Assuming rams will stink ? Not gonna improve w Sammy and Woods as opposed to Tavon Austin and the poo poo platter ? Goff is garbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Where are you getting these numbers ? Assuming rams will stink ? Not gonna improve w Sammy and Woods as opposed to Tavon Austin and the poo poo platter ? ESPN. Bill Barnwell Winners and Losers article. The bottom of the page http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20313763 Edited August 12, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Let's go on record as to our feelings on the deals today. There are no bs in between answers either. It is a yes or a no. If you were the GM and had the exact same deals on the table would you have made the moves? We are not seperating them out either because they are tied together. After the 5th year was declined, they would have been morons not to get assets for Sammy. Maybe they franchise him one more year and we go 19 years without playoffs. The only way you can be mad about this is if you actually thought this was a playoff team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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