dave mcbride Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) And Carolina won with Cam Newton, Josh Norman, Steve Smith, etc. ... And neither McDemott nor Beane drafted them. Christ, McDermott was in Philly when Newton was drafted. Smith was drafted ages ago anyway, and long before either Beane or McDermott were there. Plus they let Norman and Smith go while they were still good! Edited August 12, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) I've continued to support the team through 17 tough years. I believe we were closer than most people realized. Now forget it, 2-14 here we come. I realized earlier this year that Andy reid is a moron and I guess McD is definitely a disciple. I wasted 900 on tickets for the Panthers game. It's made worse by what we got in return. Reminds me of getting robbed in the Jason Peters trade and getting less for Lynch than the Pats got for Marone. I've already gone on the record stating Pegula is RW 2.0. What a bunch of morons. Wake me up when we hire our new GM and Coach. Bring back Whaley who comes out ahead on trades and find some way to fire Pegula. too bad the last one isn't possible. damn Russians and Bush. Edited August 12, 2017 by manbeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 With an eye towards building a team rather than a bully I firmly approve. Two moves that will help shape the positive future of the Bills for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 And Carolina won with Cam Newton, Josh Norman, Steve Smith, etc. Valid point, but I don't think Sammy played with half the edge Smith did. And Cam is an up-and-down performer who lets his emotions get the better of him sometimes. I don't believe in character over talent as a principle, but I also think that if Watkins had the production that OBJ or Evans has had, we wouldn't have let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 With an eye towards building a team rather than a bully I firmly approve. Two moves that will help shape the positive future of the Bills for years to come. Sounds like another OBD BS slogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Valid point, but I don't think Sammy played with half the edge Smith did. And Cam is an up-and-down performer who lets his emotions get the better of him sometimes. I don't believe in character over talent as a principle, but I also think that if Watkins had the production that OBJ or Evans has had, we wouldn't have let him go. I don't think that was dog's point, although I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsInMaine Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yes!!! Sick of hearing " if" and " but" This isn't a playoff contending team and has no SB shot whatsoever. Draft your young guns together, bring them up together, build a perennial contender. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 ... And neither McDemott nor Beane drafted them. Christ, McDermott was in Philly when Newton was drafted. Smith was drafted ages ago anyway, and long before either Beane or McDermott were there. Plus they let Norman and Smith go while they were still good! Not true. Newton was drafted in 2011, McDermott's was hired January 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Valid point, but I don't think Sammy played with half the edge Smith did. And Cam is an up-and-down performer who lets his emotions get the better of him sometimes. I don't believe in character over talent as a principle, but I also think that if Watkins had the production that OBJ or Evans has had, we wouldn't have let him go. Of course not, but if either of those two were injured and Sammy wasn't, he would have put up their production with worse quarterbacking. And all indications are that he is completely healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not true. Newton was drafted in 2011, McDermott's was hired January 2011. McDermott was involved in drafting offensive players for the Panthers? Doubt he had anything to do with Newton being there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not true. Newton was drafted in 2011, McDermott's was hired January 2011. McDermott would have had 0.0000% influence on that draft pick though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I don't think that was dog's point, although I could be wrong. I thought Dog was pointing out that Carolina was best with non-character guys leading the way. McDermott would have had 0.0000% influence on that draft pick though. Absolutely, just setting the facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not true. Newton was drafted in 2011, McDermott's was hired January 2011. My mistake. Regardless, he surely wasn't involved in that pick at all. I thought Dog was pointing out that Carolina was best with non-character guys leading the way. Absolutely, just setting the facts straight. But they let those guys go! Letting Norman go was a disastrous move for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Agree. We burned the first bridge by not taking the fifth year. Then we get rid of him for questionable value in return. If they hit home runs in the 2018 Draft I'm sure I'll feel better but right now this sucks. I'm also convinced Sammy will be a Patriot next year. I hope so and I hope he torches this team every year til this regime is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I thought Dog was pointing out that Carolina was best with non-character guys leading the way. Absolutely, just setting the facts straight. Yes, that is what I meant. McDermott and Beane came from a team where most of their best and most influential players were not the kind of guys they are insisting on now. My mistake. Regardless, he surely wasn't involved in that pick at all. But they let those guys go! Letting Norman go was a disastrous move for them. Yup. More evidence it doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I think the Darby trade was good, especially if they get Matthews to resign. Watkins I think they could have played it a bit differently. make sure he had a monster year franchise and trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Sounds like another OBD BS slogan. That's quite a sour opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I normally support bills management.......but I voted no here It is my believe that Sammy Watkins is going to overcome this foot injury and go onto be a elite WR int he league I wish him luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yes, that is what I meant. McDermott and Beane came from a team where most of their best and most influential players were not the kind of guys they are insisting on now. Yup. More evidence it doesn't make any sense. I agree, but I don't think McDermott or Beane had as much sway as Rivera and Gettleman. Hard to know who was responsible for letting Norman and Smith go. $15m for a corner is a lot of money too, though they still offered him a high tender of $13+m for the one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 That's quite a sour opinion. Remember "Bills Run Deep" or the current "It Starts with One". Both are uninspiring to be kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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