B-Man Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1. Original source reports something false 2. Other news orgs spread false report 3. After report has saturated the news, original source adds "correction" 4. News orgs that reported original report give corrected version minimal coverage 5. Damage done Journalist's original lie? Retweeted and liked over 20,000 times. Journalist's mea culpa? Retweeted once. One time. As in 1. It's weird how virtually every error of the past two years happens to skew in the same direction. ............."Make some law ?" . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1068613577345519616 more info at the thread. Edited November 30, 2018 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/419193-trump-russia-and-lessons-from-the-mob-did-godfathers-steer-collusion?amp&__twitter_impression=true Quote Interviews with more than 50 witnesses in the Trump case and reviews of hundreds of pages of court filings confirm the following: At least six people with long-established ties to the FBI or to U.S. and Western intelligence made entrees to key figures in the Trump business organization or his presidential campaign between March and October 2016; Campaign figures were contacted by at least two Russian figures whose justification for being in the United States were rare law enforcement parole visas controlled by the U.S. Justice Department; Intelligence or diplomatic figures connected to two of America's closest allies, Britain and Australia, gathered intelligence or instigated contacts with Trump campaign figures during that same period; Some of the conversations and contacts that were monitored occurred on foreign soil and resulted in the creation of transcripts; Nearly all of the contacts involved the same overture - a discussion about possible political dirt or stolen emails harmful to Hillary Clinton, or unsolicited business in London or Moscow; Several of the contacts occurred before the FBI formally launched a legally authorized probe into the Trump campaign and possible collusion on July 31, 2016. The recipients of these overtures are all household names, thanks to the infamy of the now very public probe - Paul Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., Michael Cohen, Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Sam Clovis and Roger Stone, to name a few. Some of the instigators of the contacts have been acknowledged in public: Professor Stefan Halper, Russian businessman Hank Greenberg, former MI6 agent Christopher Steele and former FBI informer Felix Sater, who is "Individual 2" identified in the Cohen plea deal this week. Others I identified through interviews, but U.S. officials have asked me to keep them private to avoid compromising their identities or nexus to intelligence and law enforcement work. The chances that so many would converge into then-candidate Donald Trump's circle, in such a short period around an election, are about as rare as winning the Mega Millionslottery. In other words, most were not coincidences. A few, maybe, but not all. And that leaves the biggest question: Who dispatched or controlled each emissary? At least two important bodies in Congress - the House Intelligence and Senate Judiciary committees - demanded to be secretly briefed on payments to "undercovers." They've been pretty tight-lipped since, except to express concerns that the public would be alarmed by what was divulged. Edited December 1, 2018 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 BTW here's a Buzzfeed article from March of this year where they out Sater as a known US IC asset: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/felix-sater-trump-russia-undercover-us-spy It's all coming out. Watch that clip - Sater says he's still an active US intelligence/FBI intelligence asset. (Then says he never worked for Robert Mueller... when he said he worked for the FBI while Mueller was director) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witless Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 5:35 PM, B-Man said: 1. Original source reports something false 2. Other news orgs spread false report 3. After report has saturated the news, original source adds "correction" 4. News orgs that reported original report give corrected version minimal coverage 5. Damage done Journalist's original lie? Retweeted and liked over 20,000 times. Journalist's mea culpa? Retweeted once. One time. As in 1. It's weird how virtually every error of the past two years happens to skew in the same direction. ............."Make some law ?" . Once people form a belief it is human nature to continue to maintain the initial belief even after learning the evidence used to form the belief is false. What the media does is a subtle form of brainwashing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 "The problem is Mueller is straying away from his mandate to find crime and he is now looking for political sin." "Building buildings in Moscow, using stolen material from Assange. These are not crimes. He has no authority to be a roving commissioner to find political sins. So far, I don’t see any evidence of crimes except for ones that he helped to facilitate by getting people to lie in front of his own investigators."Said Alan Dershowitz quoted (with video) at Mediaite. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 ANDREW MCCARTHY: Special Counsel Mueller is building a report, not a case. No prosecutor builds a case the way Mueller is going about it. What prosecutor says, “Here’s our witness line-up: Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Alex van der Zwaan, Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen. And what is it that they have in common, ladies and gentlemen of the jury? Bingo! They’re all convicted liars.”? It’s been a scam from Day One. Plus: “Our main interest is in the crime we authorize prosecutors to investigate; we are not looking to have prosecutors manufacture crimes through the process of investigating — even if we agree that people should not be permitted to lie to investigators with impunity. With respect to the president and ‘collusion,’ Mueller does not have a crime he is investigating. He is investigating in hopes of finding a crime, which is a day-and-night different thing.” . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1069221296171565066 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 55 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1069221296171565066 It is a travesty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Tuesday (most likely) Ol' Lankey is about to get his ass handed to him in a legal sense. (He doesn't want a public testimony. He wanted a reduced amount of time to be asked questions of a non classified variety. He's a coward, a liar, and in for a long 2019) *********************************** ************************* Hearing is scheduled for December 18th. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Adam Schiff makes a good point. At the same time Trump was urging sanctions relief for Russia he was trying to get a deal done in Moscow. And then lied to the country about it. Quote Trump’s bragging about seeking a deal with Russia engenders contempt from Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.): “Well whether it was legal or not remains to be seen. It certainly wasn’t very cool. More than that, it was very compromising of our country. In order for this Trump Tower deal to go through, sanctions had to be lifted on a Russian state bank. At the same time, Donald Trump is out there pushing to lift sanctions on Russia and this bank. There’s no way to describe that as cool or ethical or in the national interest.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 It's amazing how a-political FBI agents are so pissed. More amazing they are so professional that they're not screaming from rooftops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 If you think years-old information about a Trump Tower Moscow idea that went nowhere is shocking new proof of treasonous collusion, you’re either being deliberately dishonest, or you’re too ignorant of the facts to intelligently opine on the topic. For Trump, Cohen Plea Deal's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Exoneration by Paul Sperry Contrary to media speculation that Robert Mueller is closing in on President Trump, the special prosecutor’s plea deal with Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen offers further evidence that the Trump campaign did not collude with Russians during the 2016 election, according to congressional investigators and former prosecutors. Cohen pleaded guilty last week to making false statements in 2017 to the Senate intelligence committee about the Trump Organization’s failed efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. Discussions about the so-called Moscow Project continued five months longer in 2016 than Cohen had initially stated under oath. More at the Link: https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/12/02/actually_mueller_appears_to_be_exonerating_trump.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Good read:http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/03/nevertrump-clings-to-russia-collusion-conspiracy-theory-despite-lack-of-evidence/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Lack of evidence? The dude was talking about sanctions relief while negotiating a deal that needed sanctions relief. American foreign policy bent to make Trump money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) *************************************** Edited December 3, 2018 by Deranged Rhino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Thread, click for full: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1069664625141145600 https://twitter.com/hfinch63/status/1069647767646146560 Edited December 3, 2018 by Foxx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) read the thread... https://twitter.com/Knowita47918362/status/1069683164292046851 Edited December 3, 2018 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Trump wants his crowds to chant "Lock him up!" About his own personal attorney! Wow, what a slimball Trump is. Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump “Michael Cohen asks judge for no Prison Time.” You mean he can do all of the TERRIBLE, unrelated to Trump, things having to do with fraud, big loans, Taxis, etc., and not serve a long prison term? He makes up stories to get a GREAT & ALREADY reduced deal for himself, and get..... And there is this: George Conway @gtconway3d File under “18 U.S.C. §§ 1503, 1512” Quote Tweet Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump “I will never testify against Trump.” This statement was recently made by Roger Stone, essentially stating that he will not be forced by a rogue and out of control prosecutor to make up lies and stories about “President Trump.” Nice to know that some people still have “guts!” 11:02 AM · Dec 3, 2018 · Twitter for iPhone 9.9K Retweets 32.7K Likes Obstruction of justice, witness tampering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 https://twitter.com/taleof2servers/status/1069715336210116608 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I wonder who is more chomping at the bit: team AntiTrump/resist/Never Trumpers Or Team Anon/Q/hurrdurrlockherup? Cuz, it's getting dull now and something needs to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 This Grassley delivering a beat down of the "honorable" Blumenthal https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-12-03 CEG to Blumenthal - Trump Jr and Cohen.pdf (and Glenn Simpson should be very, very nervous) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: This Grassley delivering a beat down of the "honorable" Blumenthal https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-12-03 CEG to Blumenthal - Trump Jr and Cohen.pdf (and Glenn Simpson should be very, very nervous) That is hilarious. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: This Grassley delivering a beat down of the "honorable" Blumenthal https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-12-03 CEG to Blumenthal - Trump Jr and Cohen.pdf (and Glenn Simpson should be very, very nervous) That is hilarious. Agreed, that was a fun read, but I'm still a bit pissed off they only now seem to be serious about bringing this to a close, just before the Dems take over the House... There should have been an end to this long ago 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: *************************************** President argues for equal application of justice. He's a law and order guy, and surely everyone agrees that's good for America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1069824247676194816 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1069824247676194816 Whitaker must release for transparency reasons alone. It'll likely show the bias in the report. And it won't be able to be held over the Republicans heads once it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbb Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 This retard is back? Guess his other name got banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Motive for why Trump curried Putin's favor Cohen’s plea on Thursday provides a key ingredient — motive. For those who long wondered why throughout the presidential campaign Trump could not bring himself to say a critical word about Russian President Vladimir Putin, we now know the answer: Trump was hoping to do business in Russia, and doing so would require the approval of Putin. The putative Moscow project helps provide motive for Trump to have curried favor with Putin. And once Trump repeatedly and publicly denied having any business interests in Russia, Putin had leverage over Trump, because he knew this claim was an easily disprovable lie. Cohen’s disclosure exposes not just Trump as having lied about his business interests in Russia, it potentially also exposes his family as well. Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner have both testified before Congress. We know Trump Jr. was asked about his role in negotiations about building Trump Tower Moscow, and while a transcript of Kushner’s testimony has not been made public, it is hard to imagine that he was not also asked about the Trump Organization’s business ties to Russia. We now know that Cohen “briefed family members of” Trump about the progress of the venture. Did they testify truthfully about this? Mueller either knows or no doubt soon will find out. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/12/03/michael-cohen-plea-deal-donald-trump-tower-moscow-russia-column/2183355002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Motive for why Trump curried Putin's favor Cohen’s plea on Thursday provides a key ingredient — motive. For those who long wondered why throughout the presidential campaign Trump could not bring himself to say a critical word about Russian President Vladimir Putin, we now know the answer: Trump was hoping to do business in Russia, and doing so would require the approval of Putin. The putative Moscow project helps provide motive for Trump to have curried favor with Putin. And once Trump repeatedly and publicly denied having any business interests in Russia, Putin had leverage over Trump, because he knew this claim was an easily disprovable lie. Cohen’s disclosure exposes not just Trump as having lied about his business interests in Russia, it potentially also exposes his family as well. Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner have both testified before Congress. We know Trump Jr. was asked about his role in negotiations about building Trump Tower Moscow, and while a transcript of Kushner’s testimony has not been made public, it is hard to imagine that he was not also asked about the Trump Organization’s business ties to Russia. We now know that Cohen “briefed family members of” Trump about the progress of the venture. Did they testify truthfully about this? Mueller either knows or no doubt soon will find out. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/12/03/michael-cohen-plea-deal-donald-trump-tower-moscow-russia-column/2183355002/ Maybe someone in Hollywood can produce a movie where Trump gets nabbed for impeachable offenses and is exiled to Russia. That should soothe you and millions of others. These ticky tack daily articles aren't enough. Edited December 4, 2018 by keepthefaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Maybe someone in Hollywood can produce a movie where Trumps gets nabbed for impeachable offenses and is exiled to Russia. That should soothe you and millions of others. These ticky tack daily articles aren't enough. The law will take care of Trump, as it should. Disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, donbb said: Explain what General Flynn did that amounts to treason? In detail please. He spent his entire life defending this country (from Russians for the largest part of it), and has forgotten more about honor and service to is country than you'll ever know. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, donbb said: Well, I'm convinced. Hang the bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Explain what General Flynn did that amounts to treason? In detail please. He spent his entire life defending this country (from Russians for the largest part of it), and has forgotten more about honor and service to is country than you'll ever know. Didn't he plead guilty to lying to the FBI? Why would he lie to our side about conversations with Russians? Gosh, I hope it wasn't so the sanctions would be dropped so Donald could get his corrupt hotel. What a reason to go down in flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Didn't he plead guilty to lying to the FBI? Why would he lie to our side about conversations with Russians? Gosh, I hope it wasn't so the sanctions would be dropped so Donald could get his corrupt hotel. What a reason to go down in flames. since the current economic sanctions were issued by EO under Obama in 2014, a simple EO by Trump could just as easily dismiss them. the only sanctions that congress would have to undo are the ones they enacted, which were primarily for weapons sales and human rights violations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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