Magox Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 The principle I was defending was getting your best people in place before the draft. The Indy GM was hired in January and ran the draft. Our GM came in after the draft. The GM is more important and you want your best personnel guys working together. If you like the new hires you will have to admit they played no role in the last draft. You are morphing from making a case for your argument into crusading. You've made your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Maybe these KC guys were let go because Andy Reid is seeing how awful and clueless Mahomes is during OTAs, and realizes now that he was suckered by the scouts. Perhaps these scouts were working as insiders for the Bills, and got KC to give up a number 1 pick for a QB rated as a 2nd or 3rd rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Kool Aid? I was just looking for actual facts surrounding a well-hired front office to-date. You were looking for an argument with false truths as your backing. The consistency in your belief regarding the order in which the hiring was done is admirable, but at the same time sad. You have had numerous far more knowledgeable posters than you give you fact, which you continue to ignore, regarding the majority of organizations and the way in they handle front office shake-ups. I'm all for discussion and takes from both sides, but this point should be moot. This type of logical and coherent post makes it extremely difficult to read in Milton's voice, please refrain from that type of non sense in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I'm telling you, this is the most excited I've ever been with this team. Bright future ahead. We are finally doing it right for once. It starts at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Huge hire if true! We are putting together an all star front office IMO. How can anyone be complaining over these hires? Or saying "more of the same"? I can see being unsure of Beane at first, and what his role was vs McDermott. But hiring Schoen, Gaine and now Allen... I just don't see any way that they are just "yes men" to McDermott. They are all WAY too well respected around the NFL to come here and not have actual input into the players we pick. IMO They wouldn't have taken this job if that were the case. I am thrilled with this front office staff. So far I couldn't have asked for more. I know it's early yet, but so far I think this is looking like the best front office staff we've had in decades. Obviously we have to wait and see what they do in Buffalo, but all of these guys have a good track record of identifying talent (especially Gaine and Allen, who I'm more familiar with than Schoen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 The FO staff is something to be excited about. Hoping they can find us a decent WLB somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Lot of younger guys who've built up varied experience based. If they truly work in concert there's reason for optimism. You never know if talented young guys become successful old guys but they all seem more than qualified for their roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 If Beane won't make that much of a difference then why celebrate his hiring? I am not negative on Beane himself. I just have no idea who is doing what and that has been the same Buffalo Bills deal we have had since Levy/Jauron/Modrak. You don't have to understand anything. You have zero clue what's going on behind the scenes. Comparing this to levy/jauron/moderak or anyone else at this point is speculation on your part. You really don't know anything other than McDermott was hired before Beane and had an influence on him being hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffuct Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 LOL....Jeff is definitely an angry kid. i joined this site after following it for a long time .one of the reasons is jeffsmagic keep up the good work angry kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Has this actually been confirmed or just a rumor based on that one tweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Has this actually been confirmed or just a rumor based on that one tweet?nothing confirmed yet but the account who broke that news also broke the Schoen news early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Has this actually been confirmed or just a rumor based on that one tweet? I just confirmed it, there you go. Or you could ask jmc, twitter and instagram are his "inside sources" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Maybe these KC guys were let go because Andy Reid is seeing how awful and clueless Mahomes is during OTAs, and realizes now that he was suckered by the scouts. Perhaps these scouts were working as insiders for the Bills, and got KC to give up a number 1 pick for a QB rated as a 2nd or 3rd rounder? Put the tin foil back in the pantry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 nothing confirmed yet but the account who broke that news also broke the Schoen news early Fair enough, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 These guys had a plan and looks like its coming together. Put a list together of the people you wany if money isnt an option and go get them. If they wont be permitted to take the job, then move to the next one. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Put the tin foil back in the pantry. Pretty sure that was sarcasm, big guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 These guys had a plan and looks like its coming together. Put a list together of the people you wany if money isnt an option and go get them. If they wont be permitted to take the job, then move to the next one. I love it. .....it's all happening fast with no apparent hesitation or "no thanks" to interview(s)......and the hires are "young gun top dawgs" versus recycled bottom feeders....pretty darn impressive........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 .....it's all happening fast with no apparent hesitation or "no thanks" to interview(s)......and the hires are "young gun top dawgs" versus recycled bottom feeders....pretty darn impressive........... If you're the oldtime guy you seem to be, you've learned the lesson of the long time bills fan. It's better to be positive and angry later than angry all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 If you're the oldtime guy you seem to be, you've learned the lesson of the long time bills fan. It's better to be positive and angry later than angry all the time. ....55 years my friend going back to 1962......blew my life savings on Excedrin............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 ....55 years my friend going back to 1962......blew my life savings on Excedrin............ !!! Been there, just a few years less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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