Tipster19 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I sure hope there was no collusion with Carolina's Asst GM Brandon Beane during the draft. If so I would find that VERY hypocritical and I for one would not want him to become the new GM of the Bills. Talk about having trust issues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Alright Tips, i don't know where you're going with this, but i'm coming along for the ride, amigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 I apologize if this has already been posted but I checked and didn't see anything. If so mods please merge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Do people really expect this to be a thing? Does anyone really believe McD would be dumb enough to jeopardize everything for a couple of draft picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) College scouting have their reports done at the end of CFB and the team assembles its board in January. Things may move around slightly with FA and workouts but generally there aren't big changes because they know who they are and aren't paying, and players only drop significantly if they get injured or arrested. McD had a good idea who the Panthers wanted to take before he left. I think this is why he hired ECU WR coach. They probably had been scouting Zay closely and the coach established a strong reputation in the Panthers organization. Edited May 1, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 this is an INteresting thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 So did Levy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 except when it comes to him shaking whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 From the other side... http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/nfl-blog/article147558349.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 College scouting have their reports done at the end of CFB and the team assembles its board in January. Things may move around slightly with FA and workouts but generally there aren't big changes because they know who they are and aren't paying, and players only drop significantly if they get injured or arrested. McD had a good idea who the Panthers wanted to take before he left. I think this is why he hired ECU WR coach. They probably had been scouting Zay closely and the coach established a strong reputation in the Panthers organization. Also, it's not like these players were unknowns. I'm sure every team had them ranked appropriately on their boards. Team visits were probably done after McDermott was hired. Can't see this being an issue. I sure hope there was no collusion with Carolina's Asst GM Brandon Beane during the draft. If so I would find that VERY hypocritical and I for one would not want him to become the new GM of the Bills. Talk about having trust issues! Be careful of trusting those that preach, most of the time, they are full of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) Also, it's not like these players were unknowns. I'm sure every team had them ranked appropriately on their boards. Team visits were probably done after McDermott was hired. Can't see this being an issue.correct -he was well aware from the scouting meetings all year that those were big targets of theirs, before he ever left the Panthers. He played the draft well with that knowledge. It's not like the pre draft visits are a secret either. I don't see the integrity issue at all. Edited May 1, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 this is an INteresting thread I am very IN terested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 What is it that the kids say? Checkers and chess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 The NFL is no place for moral sanctimony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 College scouting have their reports done at the end of CFB and the team assembles its board in January. Things may move around slightly with FA and workouts but generally there aren't big changes because they know who they are and aren't paying, and players only drop significantly if they get injured or arrested. McD had a good idea who the Panthers wanted to take before he left. I think this is why he hired ECU WR coach. They probably had been scouting Zay closely and the coach established a strong reputation in the Panthers organization. Exactly. McDermott knows that organization very well and was there when Carolina was scouting this year's draft. Why wouldn't he use that info to his advantage? Especially if he didn't fully trust our (now fired) scouting staff. Â Plus, teams jump other teams every single year because they have some type of info/hunch that team will draft the player they want. Like Kansas City just this year - they traded with us to get 10 because they were convinced New Orleans would take Mahomes, and come to find out after the draft NO did in fact love Mahomes and would have likely drafted him. Does that mean KC had a spy in NO office? Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) So did Levy. Very much so, and while the Bills have never won a Championship its very possible having an overabundance of good character was the driving force that helped carry the Bills to 4 straight Superbowls. Edited May 1, 2017 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtebow15 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 It is not a lack of integrity to use knowledge you have to your benefit. He had to risk trading picks to get in front to take a player which may or may not work out like it always does. You can guess what most of these teams want to do anyway based on their roster. He may have had a little more insider knowledge than normal but that happens all the time when coaches and players move around the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I sure hope there was no collusion with Carolina's Asst GM Brandon Beane during the draft. If so I would find that VERY hypocritical and I for one would not want him to become the new GM of the Bills. Talk about having trust issues! There was no collusion, just paranoid bills fans who don't know how to handle something positive with this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Nothing screams character like wearing an OJ Simpson shirt for you first picture as a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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