PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Thats pretty terrible. That person should have been fired that day. Glad we are getting rid of some warts that were hiding in the organization. Do you still get around by horse and buggy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 The thing I don't like about this is based on reports and how McDermott has seemingly taken control - Pegula must have been talking bad about Whaley to McDermott and others. I don't like that and shows a real amateur hour approach. I'd like to see these things come as a surprise - clearly showing you're being respectful and professional as an owner. Saying your organizations need structure, discipline and communication - then you tell everyone Whaley and McDermott get along great. Next thing we know McDermott is stepping all over Whaley's authority and job - gets fired - and "that's how you win". I liked Whaley and I liked Murray but I wasn't beyond the understanding they might need to go - however the way these situations were handled was pretty ridiculous (especially Whaley). I've been a big supporter of Terry and Kim and their right to run the clubs how they want to and I believe they should be involved as much as they want to. I'm seriously concerned though that they may be getting close to developing a reputation where legitimate FO talent may not want to work for them. As it stands right now with the Bills, what experienced GM is going to want to take that job? As I said up thread, it only seems like an assistant GM that is approved by McDermott and a yes man will fill the bill. IMO TPegs is going to have trouble filling the GM position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Ever heard of smartphones? Yeah taking times via stop watch and managing the note app at the same time? Also don't you think that that was taken into account? Edited April 30, 2017 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 That assumes that Whaley had a problem with that power structure, which we didnt see any evidence of. If anything, it appeared that he was willing to work with the coaches and get the HC the players he needed to implement his schemes. If he was a power monger, he would have resigned a long time back. IMHO. ofcourse while i think you realize i'm not a big fan of speculation and conjecture and i know you're not. and i know drd isn't and hoping he'll chime back in. but it's multi faceted nonsense. in this situation whaley did not need the power. whaley seemed to have a plan with a power structure different from pegula. pegula wanted the level playing field of management and all things equal. whaley seemed to want the dichotomy of the front office working for the football operations and the coaches working hand in hand with the him. not necessarily an archaic report to the gm and he then assigns the work kind of nonsense but more the "coach you tell me what you want and i'll work to get it" vs pegula's "coach tell us what you want and we will work to get it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) So, you're not married then I take it? Your hysterical takes are just that. Hysterical. Huh? Been married for 30+ years. Decisions in a marriage compared to how a business org chart should look? So you think Pegula and his decisions since taking over the Bills and Sabres should not be criticized? I'd love to hear your non-hysterical response. Edited April 30, 2017 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 As it stands right now with the Bills, what experienced GM is going to want to take that job? As I said up thread, it only seems like an assistant GM that is approved by McDermott and a yes man will fill the bill. IMO TPegs is going to have trouble filling the GM position. Correct. McDermott is the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Chris Gragg (@Gragg80) 4/30/17, 9:01 AM @buffalobills can your #2 TE from last year come back now? Just wondering. Oh my its really starting to come out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 It looks bad if you are desperately trying to find a reason to find an issue. I don't think that there is anything the league could do, even if true. It would be AWFULLY hard to prove that the Bills stole Carolina's draft info - it isn't like Jones and Dawkins weren't expected to be picked about where they went in the draft. Could Carolina pursue tampering charges if they could prove that someone was leaking info to McDermott? Maybe, but why would a guy in a high level position in Carolina's FO risk undermining his own team by sharing info with McDermott? That would be suicide unless he had a guarantee that he would be hired as Bills' GM - which I doubt Pegula would have allowed. "Hey Terry, Coach McDermott here. Say, I know Doug is getting canned right after the draft - is it OK if I guarantee my buddy from Carolina the job in exchange for information about their draft plans? Trust me, you don't have to meet him or interview anyone else." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Michael Lombardi (@mlombardiNFL) 4/30/17, 9:29 AM No surprise Buffalo fired Whaley. The only reason he stayed on during the draft was to keep his info from getting to other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 If there are 3 (let's say Darnold, Rosen, Rudolph) then we are ALL SET. We have the ammo to trade up to #2 if need be (2 1sts in 2018, 2nd in 2018, 1st in 2019, etc). It's happened a couple times recently. Of course, IF Tyrod suddenly improves then that is a great problem to have because we get to use those picks on talent instead. why trade up to #2 when we'll be picking #1? DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 As it stands right now with the Bills, what experienced GM is going to want to take that job? As I said up thread, it only seems like an assistant GM that is approved by McDermott and a yes man will fill the bill. IMO TPegs is going to have trouble filling the GM position. It seems that might be the desired role at this point anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Blam: Charles RobinsonVerified account @CharlesRobinson 2m2 minutes ago Charles Robinson Retweeted No self-respecting personnel man shows to a pro day and does 100% of his work on a cell phone/tablet. C'mon. That's an absurd suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 id like to think the person sharing the tidbit considered thatA smartphone does everything a pencil, pad and stop watch, and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Yeah taking times via stop watch and managing the note app at the same time? I mean, there are iPads AND iPhones... use stop watch on iPhone or other mobile device. Take notes on tablet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Terry, we don't have to believe in you because you're the owner. You need to earn the trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 As it stands right now with the Bills, what experienced GM is going to want to take that job? As I said up thread, it only seems like an assistant GM that is approved by McDermott and a yes man will fill the bill. IMO TPegs is going to have trouble filling the GM position. depends on if you mean fill the position or fill the positron with someone that is qualified for the job. I'm sure loads of ppl will want the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I love all the references here to the Bills being 'dysfunctional' because they fired a GM who seems to always have problems getting along with the HC, didn't find a QB, hasn't built a playoff team and struck out on his two biggest draft day decisions. Guess they should have been functional and just stayed the course. Amen. Smart move by Pegs. Could be that only dysfunctional people would've preferred that things stay the same, they may find comfort in more dysfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Oh my its really starting to come out now. What's starting to come out? Gragg has been campaigning any team to sign him. Doesn't sound like he has any interest and needs a paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I mean, there are iPads AND iPhones... use stop watch on iPhone or other mobile device. Take notes on tablet. Read above... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Not what anyone is really saying there Ok then, what exactly is generating all the cries of 'dysfunction' over the firing of a GM with the track record I described? Or is it just the standard Bills fan kicking and screaming out of frustration any time there is a major change at OBD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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