leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 yeah could you guys just stop with that crap. i so tired of everything being compared to the team that had the biggest gift from heaven land just in their lap. literally ANY team and ANY decent nfl coach could accomplish what they have if the best passer in the history of the nfl floated to them like magic at exactly the time all the rules favor that one position for the love of all that doesnt make me want to vomit, please stop riding their jocks I get what you're saying, but after 4 decades of mostly pain I'm convinced the bills would have drafted brady and seen his promise as a long snapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Thats amazing news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Jesus Christ. The defense sucked. He doesn't play defense. What is so hard to understand about this? The defense was better than Tyrod in our seven wins...this is fact. In our losses...he didn't make the difference. And now we will be losing some of our best players on both sides of the ball and replacing them with rookies and cheap FA replacements, as well as a tougher schedule. I wonder how long the excuses for Taylor will last. If everything is not perfect for Taylor, it's not his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habes1280 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Nicely done by Whaley. It allows Cardale to develop, even allows us to draft a QB this year and gives us a couple of seasons before real decisions need to be made. Tyrod has his warts, but no one who is going to be better than him in week 1 is available to us. Agreed. It also allows them to skip a weak QB class, if they're so inclined, as opposed to forcing their own hand in a weak year and sitting on their hands a year from now, when the class may be stronger. Another two years under this contract gives the Bills the flexibility to grab a QB in either this draft OR in '18, and still give that prospect time to develop. It even gives them the option to stick with Tyrod if his play improves in the new offense, or the quarterback they draft (and they positively need to draft one in the next year or two) fails to adequately progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 $22.5m divided by 5 equals 4.5m cap hit per year for the bonuses. Plus another $600k per year from the 2016 bonus. So that's about $20m in dead cap if we cut him after 2017 and $15m in dead cap after 2018.Thanks for clearing that up dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 The defense was better than Tyrod in our seven wins...this is fact. In our losses...he didn't make the difference. And now we will be losing some of our best players on both sides of the ball and replacing them with rookies and cheap FA replacements, as well as a tougher schedule. I wonder how long the excuses for Taylor will last. If everything is not perfect for Taylor, it's not his fault. In 5 of the 6 games vs the AFC EAST our defense averaged 33 godforesaken points a game. 33. In the other game, they faced the Pats without Brady, or else we probably wouldve broken some NFL record for most points given up to divisional opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Agreed. It also allows them to skip a weak QB class, if they're so inclined, as opposed to forcing their own hand in a weak year and sitting on their hands a year from now, when the class may be stronger. Another two years under this contract gives the Bills the flexibility to grab a QB in either this draft OR in '18, and still give that prospect time to develop. It even gives them the option to stick with Tyrod if his play improves in the new offense, or the quarterback they draft (and they positively need to draft one in the next year or two) fails to adequately progress. You mean avoiding an EJ situation again? Makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsmystic Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Totally fine with this deal- keep us out of QB "purgatory" with at least a respectable option at QB, gives cap flexibility, and keeps options open if option to draft a qb materializes. PS- this is a good thread, but keeps moving down as there are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to many new threads started around here lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Bills continue to show mastery over contract restructuring and ability to get players to fit in at their number and seemingly take "fair deals" instead of ones tilted oin favor of the players, even when they likely could get more...not sure how they are doing it, but this doesn't get enough praise from peopleWhaley must of learned those tricks while working in the Steelers Franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 @viccarucci Under restructured deal w #Bills, Tyrod Taylor gets $7M signing bonus. Cap value for '17 goes from $16M to just under $10M. Tyrod Taylor's restructured deal w #Bills covers 5 years total. After the first 2 years, it becomes a year-to-year agreement. http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/08/bills-restructure-taylor-contract-keep-team/ @sharpfootball Tyrod Taylor now carries the cheapest starting vet-QB cap hit in the NFL (assuming RGIII done in CLE). Nice restructure, a page from NE. Did Vicnegar get early scoop on this contract details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Thought it deserved its own thread since the one about him staying is massive and things get buried. Whaley deserves props, imo. this. QBs make money. The Pegulas have it. All that matters is Cap. Agreed. Whaley and TT both deserve some props for this, it's the best move for the organization. Jesus Christ. The defense sucked. He doesn't play defense. What is so hard to understand about this? This isn't the greatest show on turf, so people will complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Agreed. Whaley and TT both deserve some props for this, it's the best move for the organization. This isn't the greatest show on turf, so people will complain. Yes...because nobody should complain about having by far the longest playoff drought in sports. The QB can't pass well enough to win games. This is a problem. Pretending that people have unfair expectations and are complaining for no reason is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Hats off to Whaley for his handling of this. We now have stability at QB going into the draft which should prevent us from doing something stupid (cough cough EJ cough cough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Somewhere Troy Smith is fuming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 The QB can't pass well enough to win games. This is a problem. Ya that does kind of seem like an issue. Maybe the Pegulas can convince the league to take out the forward pass? Our offense would be beast then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Hats off to Whaley for his handling of this. We now have stability at QB going into the draft which should prevent us from doing something stupid (cough cough EJ cough cough) It's fair to complain. It's fair to be content with his return. It's a wash. The lack of options and expected QB market afforded an opportunity for both the Bills and Tyrod to agree on a restructure. I'm glad he's back. If a QB is there in the draft that they like, take him. If not, load up on a need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Here's a better stat, and Ill quote myself again: Since 2015, the Chiefs are 15 - 1 in games where they score 25 points or more. Since 2015, the Bills are 9 - 8 in games where they score 25 points or more. Fix the defense. Make the playoffs. Andrew Luck is 25-0 over his career when the Colts have held the opponents under 20 points. Taylor only has 1 loss when his defense holds opponents under 20. Our D needs to improve. well, Tyrod proved to be the upstanding young man i always thought he was. regardless of reports that he wasn't open to taking a penny less, he did so for at least this year, for the benefit of the team. i still am curious what the commitment to him is for the two year period. being that, right now we have ample cap room for '18, i'm thinking he has a larger deadcap hit than he originally had for '18. i hope the actual details come out soon. that being said, i am still not sold on him as a passing QB. he still has too many deficiencies that he had back in college that haven't been rectified in the 7 years since he left. i am not very confident that he will ever overcome them. especially in a WCO where he will need to throw over the middle and anticipate where the receiver will be before he gets there. hopefully a better coaching staff, in particular Dennison, will be able to manage him to maximize the play. I'm still confused about this. Did Taylor take less money or not? From what some people in this thread are saying it sounds like he's going to get the same amount of money, but a bunch of his salary from this year is being converted to a bonus... I'm lost on NFL contracts. Can someone, when they find out, simply post the money Taylor is guaranteed with this new contract? Edited March 8, 2017 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 Spotrac isn't updated yet - that will give a clearer picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Great job, Bills FO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I was told Tyrod is a low-character guy who was trying to scam the Bills with his injury guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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