RochesterRob Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 23 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Gee, maybe the fear of a Sanders victory has lessened somewhat and given investors a little hope. Healthcare stocks have improved dramatically. This. The market was reacting to the Democrats' obvious moves to have moderate as their candidate versus a radical. Anything as to a Biden bounce was just irrational exuberance by the media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, TPS said: We haven't even started massively testing yet, so as soon as that happens, the number of cases will rise significantly. The market will not be able to stand the weight of that, no matter what the Fed does. We will most certainly see a much bigger fiscal response in the near future. But, yeah, listen to Trump and go to work even if your sick.... Missed that. Do you have a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Missed that. Do you have a link? It was a typical misquote attempt. There’s a viral clip flying around this morning of President Trump’s interview with Sean Hannity last night which accuses him of telling people with coronavirus that’s it safe to go to work. The problem with the clip, however, is that it’s just not true. From President Trump: Now, that’s entirely different than what Rupar tweets: “Suggests it’s fine for people w/Covid-19 to work.” It’s “some of them go to work” with the virus vs. “it’s fine for people” to go to work. You may hate the president’s impreciseness, but that’s not the same thing. Watch for yourself: President Trump: ‘I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work’ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: It was a typical misquote attempt. There’s a viral clip flying around this morning of President Trump’s interview with Sean Hannity last night which accuses him of telling people with coronavirus that’s it safe to go to work. The problem with the clip, however, is that it’s just not true. From President Trump: Now, that’s entirely different than what Rupar tweets: “Suggests it’s fine for people w/Covid-19 to work.” It’s “some of them go to work” with the virus vs. “it’s fine for people” to go to work. You may hate the president’s impreciseness, but that’s not the same thing. Watch for yourself: President Trump: ‘I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work’ Saw that last night. Had it on in the background while doing a little work. Was really looking for a certain economics professor to respond but you do a good job of filling in for that MIA Tom, who invariably would spring every ***** trap I ever set for anyone! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 "So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work but they get better." Going to work to get better? Idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: "So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work but they get better." Going to work to get better? Idiot! Read the quote you quoted. I know, it's a 50/50 chance that you'll get the fact that you are misrepresenting what he said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Read the quote you quoted. I know, it's a 50/50 1/99 chance that you'll get the fact that you are misrepresenting what he said. Corrected. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Read the quote you quoted. I know, it's a 50/50 chance that you'll get the fact that you are misrepresenting what he said. It says what it says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It says what it says. You're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You're an idiot. Not at all. You are just trying to turn urine into water. Defending Trump makes you smell like piss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 The Left’s Lies About Trump’s Interview Shows They Are Trying to Hoax America yet Again The left is desperate to paint the Trump Administration’s response to the novel coronavirus (aka Covid-19) emergence as incompetent and malicious. Despite the administration getting praise from people who are actually familiar with the actions and issues (an no, your rando doctor or even medical school faculty is not qualified to comment because as Mike Ford pointed out, this is a logistics problem much more than a medical problem) the media has shown a willingness to lie to further their narrative. (SEE: New York Times Continues to Attempt to Weaponize Coronavirus By Just Lying About Testing.) {snip} Multiple examples of the Leftist's spin And Rupar and others are simply telling a blatant lie about Trump saying it was okay to go to work. He doesn’t say that at all. He says people may have such mild symptoms that they go to work.Many, if not the overwhelming majority, of people acquiring coronavirus will have symptoms that are extraordinarily mild. A large number will be asymptomatic. As the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Dr. Anthony Fauci pointed out in testimony to a Senate committee on Tuesday, there have been no confirmed cases is children under 15. This doesn’t mean they can’t spread it, it just means they don’t even know they are sick. The left is desperate. They were counting on coronavirus tanking the economy and on using the response by the Administration as a weapon. The response, so far, has been on target. The markets are beginning to price in disruption of the supply chain to China and alternative suppliers are being found or developed. Odds are by mid-summer people will be looking back on this as the medical equivalent of the Y2K panic. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Not at all. You are just trying to turn urine into water. Defending Trump makes you smell like piss most alchemists i know try to turn pee into gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 47 minutes ago, Foxx said: most alchemists i know try to turn pee into gold. Old time curing agent for hides and such. Even so, there'd never be enough piss to cure Tiberius of what ails him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 "The Left’s Lies About Trump’s Hannity Interview Shows They Are Trying to Hoax America yet "Again"" "Again" ? Try they do it always and forever, regardless of the opposition, situation or the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, B-Man said: The Left’s Lies About Trump’s Interview Shows They Are Trying to Hoax America yet Again The left is desperate to paint the Trump Administration’s response to the novel coronavirus (aka Covid-19) emergence as incompetent and malicious. Despite the administration getting praise from people who are actually familiar with the actions and issues (an no, your rando doctor or even medical school faculty is not qualified to comment because as Mike Ford pointed out, this is a logistics problem much more than a medical problem) the media has shown a willingness to lie to further their narrative. (SEE: New York Times Continues to Attempt to Weaponize Coronavirus By Just Lying About Testing.) {snip} Multiple examples of the Leftist's spin And Rupar and others are simply telling a blatant lie about Trump saying it was okay to go to work. He doesn’t say that at all. He says people may have such mild symptoms that they go to work.Many, if not the overwhelming majority, of people acquiring coronavirus will have symptoms that are extraordinarily mild. A large number will be asymptomatic. As the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Dr. Anthony Fauci pointed out in testimony to a Senate committee on Tuesday, there have been no confirmed cases is children under 15. This doesn’t mean they can’t spread it, it just means they don’t even know they are sick. The left is desperate. They were counting on coronavirus tanking the economy and on using the response by the Administration as a weapon. The response, so far, has been on target. The markets are beginning to price in disruption of the supply chain to China and alternative suppliers are being found or developed. Odds are by mid-summer people will be looking back on this as the medical equivalent of the Y2K panic. . And this is how the right defends his piss-poor attempt to manage this crisis. I wish a dem was in the WH, then you guys wouldn't be blinded by how ignorant this guy is on the issue, and more important, you'd realize that he cares more about the market than protecting people. The number of cases has increased by 35% so far today, and as we test more, these numbers will accelerate. As the data show, if you're young, it's no big deal, but this thing will wipe out a big part of the older population. As a scientist friend said to me today, what will distinguish this from other viruses is that everyone will know someone who dies from it. As for Trump, his casual attitude is a big problem. He's trying to protect his stock market and economy. By saying it's no big deal to go to work with this, he's become part of the problem. Yes, I understand that he's saying people have it and will go to work and eventually get better. However, what he should be saying is exactly the opposite. Stay home, because you will infect more and more people, which will put more and more of the most vulnerable population at risk. For christ sakes, China quarantined an entire city to slow it down. This will be his downfall--he will not win a second term because of his (lack of) response to this. He can blame the dems, blame Obama; but Trump owns this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, TPS said: And this is how the right defends his piss-poor attempt to manage this crisis. I wish a dem was in the WH, then you guys wouldn't be blinded by how ignorant this guy is on the issue, and more important, you'd realize that he cares more about the market than protecting people. The number of cases has increased by 35% so far today, and as we test more, these numbers will accelerate. As the data show, if you're young, it's no big deal, but this thing will wipe out a big part of the older population. As a scientist friend said to me today, what will distinguish this from other viruses is that everyone will know someone who dies from it. As for Trump, his casual attitude is a big problem. He's trying to protect his stock market and economy. By saying it's no big deal to go to work with this, he's become part of the problem. Yes, I understand that he's saying people have it and will go to work and eventually get better. However, what he should be saying is exactly the opposite. Stay home, because you will infect more and more people, which will put more and more of the most vulnerable population at risk. For christ sakes, China quarantined an entire city to slow it down. This will be his downfall--he will not win a second term because of his (lack of) response to this. He can blame the dems, blame Obama; but Trump owns this now. And to think I thought all along that you just had a mild case of TDS. He was referring to deaths per thousand and said that it can't be accurately determined because there are so many mild cases of it that many people have no reason to think they have it and will go on living their life as usual. That includes going to work. There has been no lack of response and in so saying you are supporting the dems and MSM hoax. Congratulations on spreading panic. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrecrazed Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, TPS said: And this is how the right defends his piss-poor attempt to manage this crisis. I wish a dem was in the WH, then you guys wouldn't be blinded by how ignorant this guy is on the issue, and more important, you'd realize that he cares more about the market than protecting people. The number of cases has increased by 35% so far today, and as we test more, these numbers will accelerate. As the data show, if you're young, it's no big deal, but this thing will wipe out a big part of the older population. As a scientist friend said to me today, what will distinguish this from other viruses is that everyone will know someone who dies from it. As for Trump, his casual attitude is a big problem. He's trying to protect his stock market and economy. By saying it's no big deal to go to work with this, he's become part of the problem. Yes, I understand that he's saying people have it and will go to work and eventually get better. However, what he should be saying is exactly the opposite. Stay home, because you will infect more and more people, which will put more and more of the most vulnerable population at risk. For christ sakes, China quarantined an entire city to slow it down. This will be his downfall--he will not win a second term because of his (lack of) response to this. He can blame the dems, blame Obama; but Trump owns this now. He didn't say this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 40 minutes ago, sabrecrazed said: He didn't say this. Don’t bother. TPS has declared it to be so (from on high) We poor serfs just don’t understand the nuances in ‘right-wing’ speech. It has to be sent down from the mountain top ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrecrazed Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: Don’t bother. TPS has declared it to be so (from on high) We poor serfs just don’t understand the nuances in ‘right-wing’ speech. It has to be sent down from the mountain top ? I understand. Which is why my response to his 4 paragraph diatribe was but 4 words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 How does one go about finding a “scientist friend?” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: And to think I thought all along that you just had a mild case of TDS. He was referring to deaths per thousand and said that it can't be accurately determined because there are so many mild cases of it that many people have no reason to think they have it and will go on living their life as usual. That includes going to work. There has been no lack of response and in so saying you are supporting the dems and MSM hoax. Congratulations on spreading panic. Really, no lack of response? Why are there so few tests? Oh, yeah, it's Obama's fault according to trump. You folks with TLS fail to criticize him and will defend him no matter what. You're no different than people who supported Obama no matter what... He did not take this seriously enough because he is more concerned about the stock market and economy. My prediction: this will be the reason he doesn't get re-elected. But to those with TLS, it's all a hoax and spreading panic.... 19 minutes ago, Kevbeau said: How does one go about finding a “scientist friend?” Sorry, I can't help you find friends. 2 hours ago, sabrecrazed said: He didn't say this. Read the next sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, TPS said: Really, no lack of response? Why are there so few tests? Oh, yeah, it's Obama's fault according to trump. You folks with TLS fail to criticize him and will defend him no matter what. You're no different than people who supported Obama no matter what... He did not take this seriously enough because he is more concerned about the stock market and economy. My prediction: this will be the reason he doesn't get re-elected. But to those with TLS, it's all a hoax and spreading panic.... Sorry, I can't help you find friends. Read the next sentence. Now your just repeating the same stuff the Leftist media fed you. Early on he closed the border to the Chinese. The Left criticized him for being racist towards Asians and being an alarmist. I'll criticize him if he doesn't review where our critical products are coming from and find a way to have them made here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Now your just repeating the same stuff the Leftist media fed you. Early on he closed the border to the Chinese. The Left criticized him for being racist towards Asians and being an alarmist. I'll criticize him if he doesn't review where our critical products are coming from and find a way to have them made here. Yeah, the most important/best thing Trump did was restrict travel to China when he did. Had he waited another week or more like the Dems wanted, we'd be as screwed as Italy and Iran are, from where many new cases are coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrecrazed Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, TPS said: Read the next sentence. I did, and it reads like you get your information from The View. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Can see 3rdnlng has one of these in his home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Doc said: Yeah, the most important/best thing Trump did was restrict travel to China when he did. Had he waited another week or more like the Dems wanted, we'd be as screwed as Italy and Iran are, from where many new cases are coming. Yeah. Trump mentioned that. It was the right move. Having free flowing conversations in interviews giving his opinion about an area he has no expertise in isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 9 hours ago, TPS said: And this is how the right defends his piss-poor attempt to manage this crisis. I wish a dem was in the WH, then you guys wouldn't be blinded by how ignorant this guy is on the issue, and more important, you'd realize that he cares more about the market than protecting people. The number of cases has increased by 35% so far today, and as we test more, these numbers will accelerate. As the data show, if you're young, it's no big deal, but this thing will wipe out a big part of the older population. As a scientist friend said to me today, what will distinguish this from other viruses is that everyone will know someone who dies from it. As for Trump, his casual attitude is a big problem. He's trying to protect his stock market and economy. By saying it's no big deal to go to work with this, he's become part of the problem. Yes, I understand that he's saying people have it and will go to work and eventually get better. However, what he should be saying is exactly the opposite. Stay home, because you will infect more and more people, which will put more and more of the most vulnerable population at risk. For christ sakes, China quarantined an entire city to slow it down. This will be his downfall--he will not win a second term because of his (lack of) response to this. He can blame the dems, blame Obama; but Trump owns this now. When he put Pence in charge I thought it was a good move so he wouldn't have to comment on it. I was wrong. Luckily, most people have grown to trust his actions and not his words by now. I hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 9 hours ago, TPS said: it's all a hoax and spreading panic.... Statistically speaking, it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrecrazed Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Yeah. Trump mentioned that. It was the right move. Having free flowing conversations in interviews giving his opinion about an area he has no expertise in isn't. Why? That's what interviewers are. He even said it was just his opinion based on conversations with people who are experts. It's not his fault that The View news networks twist what he says, and dumbasses believe it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Now your just repeating the same stuff the Leftist media fed you. Early on he closed the border to the Chinese. The Left criticized him for being racist towards Asians and being an alarmist. I'll criticize him if he doesn't review where our critical products are coming from and find a way to have them made here. Don't conflate my statements with your bias. Closing the "border" with China was right--you won't find any criticism from me. What I've been arguing is they should've also been preparing for it's inevitable appearance here. It's clear to me that Trump was more concerned about rattling markets and any impact on the economy, so they delayed and maybe even suppressed testing (yes, my conspiratorial mind). They could've gotten ahead of the curve on this, but didn't. I following what medical professionals are saying. You keep believing your right wing media that it's a hoax. 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: Statistically speaking, it is. It's amazing how gullible investors can be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, TPS said: Don't conflate my statements with your bias. Closing the "border" with China was right--you won't find any criticism from me. What I've been arguing is they should've also been preparing for it's inevitable appearance here. It's clear to me that Trump was more concerned about rattling markets and any impact on the economy, so they delayed and maybe even suppressed testing (yes, my conspiratorial mind). They could've gotten ahead of the curve on this, but didn't. I following what medical professionals are saying. You keep believing your right wing media that it's a hoax. It's amazing how gullible investors can be.... What a bunch of bunk. The Left ripped on Trump for closing our borders to China and you admit now that you can't criticize him for that. OK, can you praise him for his foresight in doing so? Who said they weren't preparing for it here? Do you have any links to support your speculation? You are conflating Trump calling the virus a hoax with what he really said, that all the media and Left's lies are a hoax. You are perpetuating the hoax by pulling shitoutofyourass. Speculation on your part is just further proof of how deep your TDS goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Back to the economy, Dow futures down another 3%. The crazier thing from my perspective is the 10-year T-Bond is now 0.72%. Glad I went 20% into bonds earlier this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) Most people on the left did not rip on Trump for closing our borders to China, though. In fact, I don't think anyone ripped Trump for that. I'd like to see an example. It's a moronic statement by a moron whose head is so far up there it's somewhere between Trump's stomach and large intestine by now. Edited March 6, 2020 by Gary Busey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 yes, speaking of the economy... https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1235929429249069063 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 44 minutes ago, Foxx said: yes, speaking of the economy... https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1235929429249069063 Yes, let me know how the market takes in what happened last month.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, Foxx said: yes, speaking of the economy... https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1235929429249069063 Don't discount that January numbers were adjusted upward by 80,000 too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 The distant mirror Quote March 6, 2020 at 9:02 a.m. EST The U.S. economy added 273,000 jobs in February, showing impressive growth and strength even amid concerns about the economic fallout of the coronavirus. The unemployment rate fell slightly to 3.5 percent from 3.6 percent. The jobless rate remains near a 50-year low. The outstanding growth was driven by gains in health care, restaurants, government and construction hiring. “The employment report was nearly perfect in February before the growing economic storm posed by the spreading coronavirus around the country that threatens many industries where the public gathers from movies, to travel, to the airline industry, even shops and malls,” Chris Rupkey, chief financial economist of MUFG Union Bank, wrote in commentary Friday. February’s strong performance reflected the calm before the coronavirus panic gripped the global economy. Over the past few weeks, experts have gone from sanguine to increasingly alarmed about the virus’ threat to global growth, as the outbreak has spread to nearly 90 countries and sickened almost 100,000. Global markets have shown volatility and fallen sharply investors monitored the coronavirus’ dampening effect on manufacturing, travel and consumer spending. Analysts are predicting global economic growth could slow to the lowest levels since the financial crisis this quarter. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/06/march-jobs-report/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Gary Busey said: Most people on the left did not rip on Trump for closing our borders to China, though. In fact, I don't think anyone ripped Trump for that. I'd like to see an example. It's a moronic statement by a moron whose head is so far up there it's somewhere between Trump's stomach and large intestine by now. Schumer ripped Trump, in a tweet on 2/6. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Schumer ripped Trump, in a tweet on 2/6. He did not. It was a fake Tweet. Even the conservative blog that promoted the Tweet says it was fake. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/schuminations-hiding-the-truth.php HOAXED: My apologies to readers. The allegedly deleted Schumer tweet does not appear in Pro Publica’s authoritative list of deleted Schumer tweets. I regret not verifying the authenticity of the deleted tweet before posting this. I’m declaring it a hoax. I plead in mitigation that I trusted Glenn! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The distant mirror https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/06/march-jobs-report/ Gleeful Gator laughs till his sides hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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