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1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

No they'll say "awwww *****!  We'll never get rid of those boomers now!!"

 

Is this before or after they complain that the cure is racist because he's going to make it so expensive that only white people can afford it?

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7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

1/2 percentage rate drop by Fed 

 

As I mentioned, nice little sugar jolt for the stock market, but as the numbers of cases increases, traders will "reevaluate" since lower rates don't compensate for a drop in demand...

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21 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

....FULL DISCLOSURE: not the brightest bulb in the lighting store; according to CDC, 61,000 died last year from the flu in the US alone......where was the panic for that?.....I missed the memo........

Do people with the flu get quarantined?  Do governments shut down social events or quarantine entire cities because of the flu?  What do you think would happen if we treated this as casually as we do the flu?

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1 hour ago, TPS said:

Do people with the flu get quarantined?  Do governments shut down social events or quarantine entire cities because of the flu?  What do you think would happen if we treated this as casually as we do the flu?

 

Exactly.  There is a huge difference between the two.  The flu is a known commodity in society, happens yearly, there are vaccinations to prevent some of it and the death rate is very very low.  Most of us have had it multiple times and know how to deal with it.  This coronavirus thus far is an unknown in comparison.  It appears to be highly contagious, there are no vaccines or treatments to date and the death rate (even though only the weak among us seem to die) is much higher.  Fear of the unknown will change people's behavior and significantly if the number of active cases continues to increase. 

 

It doesn't take much of a change in consumer confidence and spending to cause a recession.  We've been pedal to the metal with stimuli for the last decade + which has resulted in modest GDP growth on average.  We love what that long expansion has done for equity markets but I don't see how this ***** virus doesn't cause a recession unless it quickly (in the next month or two) dissipates.  It won't take much to go from +2.5% to -2.5% GDP for a couple quarters or more. 

 

 

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12 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Exactly.  There is a huge difference between the two.  The flu is a known commodity in society, happens yearly, there are vaccinations to prevent some of it and the death rate is very very low.  Most of us have had it multiple times and know how to deal with it.  This coronavirus thus far is an unknown in comparison.  It appears to be highly contagious, there are no vaccines or treatments to date and the death rate (even though only the weak among us seem to die) is much higher.  Fear of the unknown will change people's behavior and significantly if the number of active cases continues to increase. 

 

It doesn't take much of a change in consumer confidence and spending to cause a recession.  We've been pedal to the metal with stimuli for the last decade + which has resulted in modest GDP growth on average.  We love what that long expansion has done for equity markets but I don't see how this ***** virus doesn't cause a recession unless it quickly (in the next month or two) dissipates.  It won't take much to go from +2.5% to -2.5% GDP for a couple quarters or more. 

 

 

Good take. I expect we'll see a highly volatile market until there's some clarity.  And to reiterate, if this admin fails to be transparent, the response (market) will be worse. Futures indicating a big positive swing today...

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Government bailout of Trump economy being considered. The Libertarians won't say a thing at all. Tools 

 

Eight months from a general election, President Donald Trump and Republican lawmakers are considering an urgent effort to rescue the U.S. economy from a coronavirus panic.

Trump advisers and GOP lawmakers have spent the past few days pushing the White House to develop a package of economic stimulus measures, designed to prop up the economy amid growing fears about the spread of the coronavirus in the U.S.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/03/trump-economic-record-coronavirus-119920

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 Data show U.S. economy on solid footing as coronavirus fears mount.

 

U.S. services sector activity jumped to a one-year high in February, suggesting strength in the economy before a recent escalation of recession fears ignited by the coronavirus epidemic that prompted an emergency interest rate cut from the Federal Reserve.

 

The economy’s solid fundamentals were also underscored by other data on Wednesday showing private payrolls increased more than expected in February.

 

 

 

Sad news for Democrats hoping for a recession to use against Trump, but good news for America.

 
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This news should shock no one who believes in the seductive and abusive power of "organized" labor.   Unions are just a smaller versions of big government.

 

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 Federal prosecutors Thursday charged former United Auto Workers President Gary Jones with embezzling more than $1.5 million, according to a criminal filing that indicates he will plead guilty and cooperate with an investigation that could lead to the government seizing control of one of the nation's most powerful unions.

 

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29 minutes ago, GG said:

This news should shock no one who believes in the seductive and abusive power of "organized" labor.   Unions are just a smaller versions of big government.

 

 

Much like bankers.

I've often thought about posting the weekly cases of fraud and abuse in finance.....but I don't have that much time...

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2 minutes ago, TPS said:

Much like bankers.

I've often thought about posting the weekly cases of fraud and abuse in finance.....but I don't have that much time...

 

Difference being is that you can choose between dozens of banks and can switch in a matter of minutes, but are saddled with one union or one government office.

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9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

The Biden bounce appears to be over... 

 

 

We haven't even started massively testing yet, so as soon as that happens, the number of cases will rise significantly.  The market will not be able to stand the weight of that, no matter what the Fed does.  We will most certainly see a much bigger fiscal response in the near future.  But, yeah, listen to Trump and go to work even if your sick.... 

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1 minute ago, TPS said:

We haven't even started massively testing yet, so as soon as that happens, the number of cases will rise significantly.  The market will not be able to stand the weight of that, no matter what the Fed does.  We will most certainly see a much bigger fiscal response in the near future.  But, yeah, listen to Trump and go to work even if your sick.... 

Out of his own political self preservation, you'd think he would just shut up. 

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