Deranged Rhino Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 I'm a little concerned, frankly, if those docs do actually describe the CIA'S entire surveillance repertoire. A lot of it seems pretty basic and frankly outdated from what I can tell. It's not their surveillance repertoire, it's their cyber-warfare arsenal. At least the non-classified elements of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 It's not their surveillance repertoire, it's their cyber-warfare arsenal. At least the non-classified elements of it. Good distinction. But still...weren't we covering the computer camera with post-its in the 90s? There's got to be more. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but they sound like simpletons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Is someone going to call me an idiot? I doubt it - I'm certainly not going to. I'm only saying that I agree with your premise, and that I'm cynical enough to believe that intelligence organizations are more concerned with what Americans are saying given the current climate than they are with spying on others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) It's normal for US attorneys to submit their resignations with a change of administration. What's NOT normal is for the AG to have to request their resignations. Yes. I remember the media **** storm when W fired his US Attorneys. They thought they had it made in the shade. But he wanted his own people in... and that's highly unusual... NOT! Except of course if it's guys from your team getting **** canned. I thought I read every post but now I'm sure I missed something. Is someone going to call me an idiot? Not all is here. The information you seek is elsewhere. Surveillance by the CIA on US soil is "not allowed." You don't present like one. Edited March 11, 2017 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Great to hear him follow up that quote...sucks when people qualify statements, so hey, just cut it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Great to hear him follow up that quote...sucks when people qualify statements, so hey, just cut it off The qualifier is even worse when you consider Hayden's track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 The qualifier is even worse when you consider Hayden's track record. Well thank God we have such a leaky government. If it were being abused to kill people here I'm pretty sure we would find out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) Well thank God we have such a leaky government. If it were being abused to kill people here I'm pretty sure we would find out Edited March 11, 2017 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Yes. I remember the media **** storm when W fired his US Attorneys. They thought they had it made in the shade. But he wanted his own people in... and that's highly unusual... NOT! Except of course if it's guys from your team getting **** canned. And there was a "scandal" in 2009 when one a Bush-appointed attorney refused to submit their resignation to Holder. Wasn't widely reported, and didn't get much traction, because "President Jesus." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 And there was a "scandal" in 2009 when one a Bush-appointed attorney refused to submit their resignation to Holder. Wasn't widely reported, and didn't get much traction, because "President Jesus." Report: U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara Refusing To Resign On Trump Request What Is Really Behind The Firing Of Obama Holdovers In The Department Of Justice Yesterday afternoon Attorney General Jeff Sessions requested the resignation of the 46 remaining US Attorneys appointed by Obama. Overnight we’ve received some clarification. The acting deputy attorney general and US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Dana Boente, and the US Attorney for Maryland, Rod Rosenstein, who has been nominated to be deputy attorney general will be allowed to stay on. At this writing it appears that the high-profile and media-whorish US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Preet Bharara, was also terminated. Many are not happy: I shouldn’t be surprised, one thing I’ve discovered since November 9 is that there is no story, whatsoever, about Trump that the anti-Trump people are incapable of believing. When it comes to this stuff there is no bar of credibility the story has to clear beyond its mere existence. Trump “ousts” US Attorneys. Obama “replaces” them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzEj2J7iXc4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) I thought I mentioned that earlier? He's the financial world's equivalent of OC :lol; yeah, right. YOU are the financial world's equivalent of OC....need I drag out and repost your epochs with TPS? What a joke. Edited March 11, 2017 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 :lol; yeah, right. YOU are the financial world's equivalent of OC....need I drag out and repost your epochs with TPS? What a joke. GG, for the life of me, since reading this I've been trying to figure out what the hell are "your epochs"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Epochs are like ewoks, only bigger. Much, much bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Epochs are like ewoks, only bigger. Much, much bigger. Like of epic proportions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 ONE OF THESE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER: “The Deep State Is a Figment of Steve Bannon’s Imagination.” —Headline, the Politico, Thursday. “Rogue Twitter Accounts Fight to Preserve the Voice of Government Science.” —Headline, The Intercept, yesterday. As Melissa Mackenzie of the American Spectator tweets, “Find them. Fire them,” adding, “Dear President Trump, It’s time to go Sherman on these unelected government bureaucrats. Sincerely, Taxpayers.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 GG, for the life of me, since reading this I've been trying to figure out what the hell are "your epochs"? My guess is the arguments about Keyensian policies will jump start the economy to greatest heights ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Epochs are like ewoks, only bigger. Much, much bigger. Thanks, I was stuck on the "e" part, like some kind of new digital age concept: "e"mail, "e"tail, "e"trade, etc. "e"pochs, some kind of digital curse? Like of epic proportions? That was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Nothing to see here... The CIA forgot about a bunch of classified documents stashed in the Rockefellers’ barn The vault apparently remained in place, and the documents undisturbed, until 1979. According to a formerly CONFIDENTIAL memo, the vault “fell through the cracks” as a result of a “unique” situation. The situation would have remained lost between the cracks if not for the attempt to give the barn away, and the subsequent notice to CIA from Judge Harold Tyler. The matter had, as it turned out, been completely lost to the Agency, whose Special Security Center didn’t have any records on the Rockefeller SCIF until after Judge Tyler contacted CIA about it. https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/mar/06/cia-forgot-about-bunch-classified-documents-stashe/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Nothing to see here... The CIA forgot about a bunch of classified documents stashed in the Rockefellers barn The vault apparently remained in place, and the documents undisturbed, until 1979. According to a formerly CONFIDENTIAL memo, the vault fell through the cracks as a result of a unique situation. The situation would have remained lost between the cracks if not for the attempt to give the barn away, and the subsequent notice to CIA from Judge Harold Tyler. The matter had, as it turned out, been completely lost to the Agency, whose Special Security Center didnt have any records on the Rockefeller SCIF until after Judge Tyler contacted CIA about it. https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/mar/06/cia-forgot-about-bunch-classified-documents-stashe/ fast forward 125 yrs and we will be looking at the Clinton outhouse and finding documents there, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 fast forward 125 yrs and we will be looking at the Clinton outhouse and finding emails there, too Fixed for the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Nothing to see here... The CIA forgot about a bunch of classified documents stashed in the Rockefellers’ barn The vault apparently remained in place, and the documents undisturbed, until 1979. According to a formerly CONFIDENTIAL memo, the vault “fell through the cracks” as a result of a “unique” situation. The situation would have remained lost between the cracks if not for the attempt to give the barn away, and the subsequent notice to CIA from Judge Harold Tyler. The matter had, as it turned out, been completely lost to the Agency, whose Special Security Center didn’t have any records on the Rockefeller SCIF until after Judge Tyler contacted CIA about it. https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/mar/06/cia-forgot-about-bunch-classified-documents-stashe/ Are you saying that the group that's planning the destruction of US democracy can't get its act together to catalog an old barn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Fixed for the truth.she uses her tablet on the shitter too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) Are you saying that the group that's planning the destruction of US democracy can't get its act together to catalog an old barn? No, in your rush to mock you once again fly right by the point. Put your thinking hat on and brush off your history books. Many have believed, for years, CIA was in fact established not to be an agency of the federal government, but as an intelligence agency for Wall Street and big finance. This is clear evidence of that and more, namely that we live in something more akin to The Most Serene Republic of Venice than we do a functioning democratic republic: a financial oligarchy disguised as a republic, complete with it's own version of the Council of 10 -- with the CIA playing that role -- conducting its own foreign policy, espionage, and covert operations at the behest of the oligarchy while forcing the citizens of Venice to pay for it. What this story is actually demonstrating is three fold: 1) There was no precedent for storing classified documents on private property after an official left office (and there was no precedent for everyone in the Rockefeller staff to have access to this SCIF vault as the article makes clear happened) 2) NAR continued to do so with impunity which suggests: 3) The suspicions of a CIA-Wall Street connection passed from the realm of speculation and into hard fact. The pattern of this connection which began with Allen Dulles and his connections to Sullivan and Cromwell, and continued long after Dulles' demise, went through at least the Nixon-Ford era. Edited March 13, 2017 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Riiight. The old Wall Street/CIA alliance. You'd figure that a bunch that's this smart and connected would have prevented the subprime meltdown. Or let me guess, that was also part of the plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Riiight. The old Wall Street/CIA alliance. What's your industry again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 What's your industry again? Wall Street or CIA, depending on the temperature outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Wall Street or CIA, depending on the temperature outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hypocrites..............................................on ice ! USA TODAY COLUMN: Preet Bharara Proves Trump Right. “I want to be clear here — Bharara’s refusal to resign wasn’t about principle. It was about putting himself publicly on the side of anti-Trump Democrats, no doubt in the expectation of future rewards, political or professional. It was not a brave act. It was, in fact, a species of corruption.” UPDATE: Hey, lookie here: Consultants say Bharara is well-positioned for elected office bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 she uses her tablet on the shitter too? Does she wipe it when she's done? And the obvious follow up post somebody is already contemplating Depends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Good interview with Colin Powell's former under-secretary on Russia. http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=18594 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Good interview with Colin Powell's former under-secretary on Russia. http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=18594 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The new season of Homeland looks like it's been written by DR himself. You are no Saul Goodman my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Two interesting tweets today from JA: https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/841609854540238849 https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/841612345185046528 The new season of Homeland looks like it's been written by DR himself. You are no Saul Goodman my friend. I've never consulted for that show... that I'm aware of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The new season of Homeland looks like it's been written by DR himself. You are no Saul Goodman my friend. I think he's more like Saul Berenson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think he's more like Saul Berenson. My bad. But Greg can't carry that kind of epic beard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think he's more like Saul Berenson. Though having worked with the man, I'm not sure I should toast that... My bad. But Greg can't carry that kind of epic beard. This is true. My current beard is a bit scraggly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 What's wrong with him? Is he a douche in real life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 What's wrong with him? Is he a douche in real life? He has a well earned reputation as being tough to work with. Though, having worked on a show he famously snubbed, my bias may be showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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